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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:02:12 PM   
osf


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isnt this supposed to be a place of tolerance?

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:02:23 PM   
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That would only be the case if his posts weren't about himself. If his posts are all about himself, his beliefs, his desires, he's giving enough autobiographical information to be criticized for his beliefs rather than just his posts.

I've just made a cursory look-over as far as threads he's started. Only one of them was phrased specifically about him. The others didn't strike me as "about him" any more than any thread where a person is obviously floating a thought out there because of having had a personal experience with it (I'm pretty sure most of the threads here are started anecdotally).

And, unless he's been talking about anything that specifically involves a non-consenting party, I don't see where any substance can be mounted to support an attack on beliefs.



Well in my opinion it depends on if the attack is a value judgement or an assumption. For example if I were to say "You're a misogynist and I find that disgusting" then it's a value judgement based on something he said about himself ("I hate women") and I'm the kind of person that doesn't see anything inherently wrong with "judging" people.

However if someone said something like "it's obvious your mother didn't love you enough" then that's a flawed assumption and I agree there's no substance to support it.

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:02:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

the first 4 were in response to attacks on me

the last so what, this is an adult site where we come to find partners with that we can relate to, if you dont fit the bill keep quiet

its as though "my kink is ok but your kink is perverted"


Really? i read the thread. you started all of those. They were not responses. They were statements. How is a statement a response to a question?

this is the message board section. Not the personals section. Post that crud in your profile when explaining who you are as a person and what you seek.This is not your advertising space.

< Message edited by lusciouslips19 -- 12/19/2009 9:04:44 PM >

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:04:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		osf said... post 69 of the stirring the pot thread, in response to being called on saying I wasn't a real woman... it was a joke about you being a dominant therefore not a real woman



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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:04:55 PM   
osf


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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:05:53 PM   
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hmm how might that be offensive I wonder truely.

Telling someone they are wearing a tinfoil hat is calling them in my neck of the woods schizophrenic thats an insult and a personal attack.

Returning saying something that was VERY vaild was not, is insulting that poster,

And if you wish to know what thread this was i am assured most of it is on this particular thread


http://www.collarchat.com/m_2952991/mpage_7/tm.htm

And telling holly shes insulting her master by speaking freely... just is piss worthy....



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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:06:02 PM   
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so your value judgement is my kink is not to be tolerated while yours is



No, my value judgement is that you and I both have equal right to judge each other negatively.

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:06:04 PM   
osf


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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:06:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

1 show up

#2 shut the fuck up

#3 do as your told

I don't see the problem here, again.

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can any of you walk and chew gum at the same time?

That one does appear to count. Again, I'd like the entire incident rather than a selected quote, but yes...insult.

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sometimes question the sanity of any woman that would seek out a man to knock her about or the sanity of a man that enjoys it

Iffy. It's an honest expression of confusion about someone else's kink/dynamic. People do that rather readily around here if the topic becomes one of the traditional taboos. It took me a while to have to admit that this community cannot be held to any greater standard of tolerance than any other, despite its existence in a social minority. I don't see where his expression here is anything more than a personal bias (which plenty of people have).

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any woman that doesnt want to be a slave is a pervert

I suppose some people could be offended by that...but I'd be seriously curious of how many women here would even bother to be anything but flattered at being called a "pervert"!

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I like to approach them in dark alleys. '"

Sounds creepy. Not insulting. It does sound like a selective troll, though.

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You didnt make a statement to one person specifically. You insulted all of the woman equally.

There is no "all" anything. There are only individuals.


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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:06:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

what would the moral majority think of you?

isnt this supposed to be a place of tolerance?


This is a place of many views, Some agree some dont. We dont have to tolerate insults to woman from a self proclaimed woman hater. You can say what you wish but we can respond how ever we choose. Also, tolerants goes both ways?

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:07:37 PM   
osf


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i dont judge you anything

as far as im concerned we could still wind up friends

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:09:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

1 show up

#2 shut the fuck up

#3 do as your told

I don't see the problem here, again.

quote:

can any of you walk and chew gum at the same time?

That one does appear to count. Again, I'd like the entire incident rather than a selected quote, but yes...insult.

quote:

sometimes question the sanity of any woman that would seek out a man to knock her about or the sanity of a man that enjoys it

Iffy. It's an honest expression of confusion about someone else's kink/dynamic. People do that rather readily around here if the topic becomes one of the traditional taboos. It took me a while to have to admit that this community cannot be held to any greater standard of tolerance than any other, despite its existence in a social minority. I don't see where his expression here is anything more than a personal bias (which plenty of people have).

quote:


any woman that doesnt want to be a slave is a pervert

I suppose some people could be offended by that...but I'd be seriously curious of how many women here would even bother to be anything but flattered at being called a "pervert"!

quote:


I like to approach them in dark alleys. '"

Sounds creepy. Not insulting. It does sound like a selective troll, though.

quote:


You didnt make a statement to one person specifically. You insulted all of the woman equally.

There is no "all" anything. There are only individuals.


The problem is things made as statements. Not as something to open as a discussion. He says he wants debate. But how do you debate that?

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:09:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero
I suppose some people could be offended by that...but I'd be seriously curious of how many women here would even bother to be anything but flattered at being called a "pervert"!



FWIW I'm one of them.

And I'd imagine that even the people who do self-identify as a pervert could take offense to the word being used as an insult. Like the girls who enjoy their s/o calling them "slut" would still be insulted if a stranger on the street did.

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:11:24 PM   
osf


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are you saying they arnt entitled to the men they seek because you find such men unaceptable?

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:12:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

what have you to say to women that want to be hated, they exist on here you know

are you saying they arnt entitled to the men they seek because you find such men unaceptable?


usually these women were abused or are being abused in real life, and have low self esteem and think this is all they are worth.


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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:13:15 PM   
osf


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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:13:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

again what was your post to me just before that?


I was trying to find it. It was in another thread that you said I wasn't a real woman. In the prior thread I mentioned post 69, you had said you hadn't directly made any attacks and I laughingly stated that you had.

Where it started and you responded to what I said by saying that I wasn't a real woman is found in post 18 of the what I've noticed thread in submissive... and I was directing my post to another poster who offered a dollar to read your journal.

I said... Would you be willing to give me a dollar everytime I read it? I could use some extra cash about now. (smile) I read fast and won't obsorb nonsense.



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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:14:21 PM   
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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:14:25 PM   
osf


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they are here seeking what the seek no mater how they arrived

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RE: dangerous men - 12/19/2009 9:14:37 PM   
Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

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ORIGINAL: osf

what have you to say to women that want to be hated, they exist on here you know

are you saying they arnt entitled to the men they seek because you find such men unaceptable?


usually these women were abused or are being abused in real life, and have low self esteem and think this is all they are worth.



I disagree with that assumption, and I do think that for whatever reason there are women on this site who want to be hated and "abused" (I use it in quotes only to differentiate between consensual abuse and "real" abuse).

But if you're going to toss a "I hate women" line out to see if any of them will bite, you have to be aware that all the women who *don't* want to be hated might react very negatively to it.

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