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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/19/2006 3:57:25 PM   
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Why do you think Passion of the Christ was tagged as anti Semitic?


1. Because Gibson's father seems to be, and it took forever for Gibson himself to separate himself from his father's statements.
2. Because Gibson himself either couldn't be diplomatic enough during and before the controversy, or didn't WANT to be diplomatic enough in order to generate controversy and sell more tickets (and his production company was unnecessarily stonewalling in letting Jewish groups see the script).
3. Gibson used some sources that were themselves anti-semitic (I'm not sure about this and I'm relying on memory here), which raised suspicions.
4. The movie depicts Jewish officials conspiring to kill Jesus, and some people will just protest about seeing that depicted on film. This is actually the least of it, because anyone this sensitive would have already been affectd by 1-3 above.

Was there something anti-semitic in the film? I didn't see it. Millions of other people who saw the film didn't pick up on it. The usual suspects in the Arab world said it showed how evil the Jews were. I don't think it contributed one bit to anti-semitism. On the contrary, the message was all about love and forgiveness toward specific sinners, just the same as in the New Testament.

The critics all jumped on the sadism bandwagon after the movie was released -- one indication that the anti-semitism criticism was a flop (I really didn't hear much about anti-semitism after the movie came out). The blood and violence didn't do anything for me except raise my own compassion.

I'd be interested to know if any sadists or masochists here found the blood and guts an erotic turn on.


I saw nothing different in it than I've heard and learned about in the Catholic Easter masses said every year. Mel Gibson repeatedly denied it was anti semitic and I don't think he owed the media any "explanation" about his father's views. His father did not make the film, write its script, or otherwise determine its content.

I don't think any sane person would have found the brutality in the film erotic.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/19/2006 4:24:46 PM   
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6. Goonies. Lol Ok I know this is supposed to be 5 but I couldn't help myself.



Ok, this is totally a threadjack but I gotta talk about The Goonies.

I think The Goonies is a generational marker.

I don't know anybody older than about 31-32 who thinks it's even watchable, and I don't know anyone younger who doesn't think it was the defining buddy movie of their childhood and a towering work of cinematic genius.

Sadly, I'm on the old fogey side of this one. I don't get this movie, AT ALL. I seem strangely immune to the charms of Harry Potter too, so maybe it's some kind of a genetic thing.

I have a good friend (who loves both The Goonies and HP) I've discussed this with and she thinks it's just that my heart is a cold black cinder.



haha. Cold black cinder? It's all good. My friends DESPISE Goonies. They thinks it's the dumbest movie made and think I'm a freak for liking it. But what can I say? I have ALWAYS had a fasination for pirates, maps, skeletons, and adventure.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/19/2006 4:26:22 PM   
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k that quote I made above me was referring to pollux. ....mmyes I think I spelled the name right.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/19/2006 6:00:59 PM   
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Fargo was a brilliant movie with scenes I'll never forget, and I also enjoyed the version of Pride and Prejudice with Colin Firth--but I'm not sure that qualifies as a movie, because it was something like six hours long. (Jennifer Ehle was quite good in that too.)

My pet peeve about ALL cinematic versions of Pride and Prejudice is that they haven't solved the problem of how to present the character of Mr. Darcy. We never see Mr. Darcy except when he is sharing a scene with Lizzie. In the novel, that works very well, but in movies, all we end up seeing is one discrete piece of him at a time--he never comes across as an integrated complex character whom Lizzie badly misunderstands.

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Fargo
The Silence of the Lambs
Apollo 13
Pride and Prejudice (Colin Firth version)
Goodfellas


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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/19/2006 10:52:16 PM   
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You take those off right now!! lol

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Level: i won't i won't i won't!!!!

Seriously...they were at the top of my BAD, VERY VERY BAD list!!

Add to the good list:

Monsters Inc
Finding Nemo (i watched this on a flat screen in the ceiling while having a root canal - never thought i'd laugh through THAT procedure!)

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 12:20:44 PM   
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#1 is Groundhog Day
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Yes, would definitely add that to my list.... 



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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 1:07:01 PM   
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My 5 all time favorite movies are:

1.  THE GODFATHER...Bar none!.
2.  GHANDI...
3.  CASABLANCA.
4.  GLADIATOR.
5.  TITANIC.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 5:09:12 PM   
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"I don't think any sane person would have found the brutality in the film erotic."

I disagree.

As for what Mel Gibson owed the public, I'd say it's not right to raise fears among Jews, some of whom, still living, were put in death camps, and others the victims of persecution of various sorts. And you don't do it particularly when you're associating yourself with the Prince of Peace. And given Christian history, you don't raise those fears around the story of the Passion, which has been blasephemously used against Jews in the past. Given our history, we Christians have certain responsibilities to act in nonthreatening ways, which is the Christian thing to do, after all.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 5:29:35 PM   
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You take those off right now!! lol

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Level: i won't i won't i won't!!!!

Seriously...they were at the top of my BAD, VERY VERY BAD list!!



.....*holding my hand on my heart..........*.......I am wounded......cinema classics and you treat them like....like....poopoo.......it's okay though.........I have lived a good life.........*cough cough.......*.....


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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 5:53:27 PM   
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You take those off right now!! lol

Level


Level: i won't i won't i won't!!!!

Seriously...they were at the top of my BAD, VERY VERY BAD list!!




.....*holding my hand on my heart..........*.......I am wounded......cinema classics and you treat them like....like....poopoo.......it's okay though.........I have lived a good life.........*cough cough.......*.....




Classics?  CLASSICS????  Cinema Paradiso was a classic.  Casablanca was a classic.  The Maltese Falcon was a classic. 

Slicing a guy's ear off in graphic detail is NOT classic!!!

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 6:49:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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You take those off right now!! lol

Level


Level: i won't i won't i won't!!!!

Seriously...they were at the top of my BAD, VERY VERY BAD list!!




.....*holding my hand on my heart..........*.......I am wounded......cinema classics and you treat them like....like....poopoo.......it's okay though.........I have lived a good life.........*cough cough.......*.....




Classics?  CLASSICS????  Cinema Paradiso was a classic.  Casablanca was a classic.  The Maltese Falcon was a classic. 

Slicing a guy's ear off in graphic detail is NOT classic!!!

~ gives you oxygen cuz i luvs ya anyway ~



OK...I have to side with Level.  
QUENTIN TARANTINO IS A GOD!
And yes...I will admit that I have a signed video jacket of Reservoir Dogs framed and hanging in my bedroom.
I'm such a nerd.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 7:06:54 PM   
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Classics?  CLASSICS????  Cinema Paradiso was a classic.  Casablanca was a classic.  The Maltese Falcon was a classic. 

Slicing a guy's ear off in graphic detail is NOT classic!!!

~ gives you oxygen cuz i luvs ya anyway ~


*smiles at the oxygen-giver.........*
 
Casablanca and The Maltese Falcon are indeed classics (never heard of Cinema Paradiso though)....but I do love Pulp Fiction...
 
"Jules:Wanna know what I'm buyin' Ringo?
Pumpkin: What?
Jules: Your life. I'm givin' you that money so I don't hafta kill your ass. You read the Bible?
Pumpkin: Not regularly.
Jules: There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. I been sayin' that shit for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a motherfucker before you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some shit this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that shit ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd. "

 
That, to me, was a stone-cold badass scene.
 
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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 7:10:14 PM   
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OK...I have to side with Level.  
QUENTIN TARANTINO IS A GOD!
And yes...I will admit that I have a signed video jacket of Reservoir Dogs framed and hanging in my bedroom.
I'm such a nerd.


See?? Aileen knows...........*sticks thumb on end of nose and wiggles rest of fingers at the disbelievers*

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/20/2006 7:25:30 PM   
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Army of Darkness
Boon Dock Saints
Princess Mononoke (have to have some anime)
Pulp Fiction
Dumbo





Boondock Saints has for some time been one of those movies that no one saw, but if you met someone else who loved it it was instant connection!! Suddenly, you can buy Boondock Saints T-Shirts at Hot Topic. It is always sad to mourn the popularizing of a true cult film.

Anyway, great choices, FnF, all except Dumbo, which is the saddest movie ever.

For mine, I will say
Princess Bride
O Lucky Man
Double Indemnity
The Usual Suspects
The 2nd Alien movie (Aliens)

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/21/2006 9:32:24 AM   
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1. Rocky Horror Picture Show
2. This is Spinal Tap
3. Princess Bride
4. The Life of Brian
5. Space Balls...anything Mel Brooks is good in my book.

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/21/2006 2:26:13 PM   
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LAM - Fargo is one of the best movies.

Have you seen the unpimp Volkswagen commericals?  Peter Stormare is in them, he played Grimsrud in Fargo.  If you've not seen them, you should take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv157ZIInUk

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/21/2006 2:35:39 PM   
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He's a pretty funny guy.  I'm glad he's working after his character on 'Prison Break' was taken out of the mix.

~stef

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/21/2006 2:39:33 PM   
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Princess Bride
Baghdad Cafe
Das Boot
Tampopo
I've Heard the Mermaids Singing

at least today...   oops....plus Groundhog Day....


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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/21/2006 4:07:08 PM   
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Let's see..in no particular order

Chinatown
The Ring Trilogy
The Man Who Would Be King
Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?
North by Northwest

...and there's always more where that came from (really enjoyed Dr. Stangelove too for whoever posted it previously)

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RE: Your top 5 Favorite Movies. - 3/21/2006 5:26:31 PM   
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She's my daughter (slap), my sister (slap), my sister and my daughter.

It's been ages since I've seen Chinatown.  Thanks for that little walk down memory lane.


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