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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 6:10:56 PM   
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Get over yourself.


Might I remind you that you are in the Ask A Mistress section of the boards. Your intolerance isn't welcome. Show us that you are worthy of the title Dominant and be an example of good behaviour. Otherwise, I would kindly request that you leave.

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Men and women are different. Women will say over twice as man ywords as a man in her lifetime.


Do you have any data to back up that broad sweeping statement? Just because you say it doesn't make it true. In fact, I know my share of chatterbox men and silent women.

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Women are also just plain different in their relationships with other women.

It's a fact. Yeah, guys can be dicks and cocksuckers. But across the board men get along better with men than women do with other women.


It's a fact? You have no data to back this up. You only have your skewed perception of the world which is not a fact. It's an opinion.

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We will start fucking meaningless wars to kill each other off, but then we apologize and wait for the next war...We don't dress up for other men, worry about what Stan is wearing to the hockey game, or gossip nearly as much about our acquaintances. We tend to speak more directly about our concerns when dealing with our male counterparts.


Hmm. Lets see. This week I was a guest speaker for a workshop for women who want to get their careers back on track after having had some personal struggles. It was humbling to see how strong these women were. It was also very fulfilling to be able to help them out, give them various perspectives and hope. Let's see, this had very little to do with discussing nail polish colours.

Most women I know are involved in social change within their communities.

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A woman gets pissed and it's nothing but being bitchy or the "silent treatment." Who wants to deal with that kind of shit?


I'm actually a great communicator. I rarely get bitchy and I never give the silent treatment. I have however taken time-outs to reflect on what I'm feeling. I always let the other person know and I don't get all passive aggressive about it.

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All of the women that I have dated in my life get along better with men than women. They just think that women tend to be too big of cunts, on the whole or hole.


Ah now we are getting to the crux of the issue. All the women you've dated in your life. Seems to me that a man with such a low opinion of women would attract women with a low opinion of themselves. Generally, women with low opinions of themselves will be catty with others out of insecurity.

See I hang out with confident women, that resemble me. We aren't catty with one another. We support one another, network, share, exchange. We are stronger together than apart. We treat our men with respect. We have healthy relationships with those around us.

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If born a woman and also forced to join the "sisterhood,"  I would carve out my vagina with a pocketknife and then go watch some football.


And if you were born a woman, you would have had a whole other perspective and experience. You might however still be the same small minded person.

On an end note, I have to thank you. In answering this post, you made me reaffirm just how absolutely thrilled I am to have the amazingly strong women that I do in my life!

- LA

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:05:45 PM   
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That is all well and good, for your world. One could argue your perception is skewed.

One could also argue you missed the humor in DG's response.

I come not to praise Domiguy, but to bury him.

I my world, the world I live in on a day to day basis, men can mother fuck each other at 11:30 and go to lunch at noon.

Women never seem to forget a slight.

Most folks have a small group of people who are their friends and thus supportive. It is the idea of a "sisterhood" of women based purely on the gender that seems silly

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:07:25 PM   
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Incidentally, I don't need to show you I am worthy of anything. You can either accept me or ignore me. the choice is yours.

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:07:58 PM   
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I my world, the world I live in on a day to day basis, men can mother fuck each other at 11:30 and go to lunch at noon.
Women never seem to forget a slight.

That's because our memories last more than 1/2 an hour
*ducks*


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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:11:58 PM   
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Ok... hard to argue that...:)

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:14:28 PM   
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That is all well and good, for your world. One could argue your perception is skewed.


I prefer to think of it as evolved.

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One could also argue you missed the humor in DG's response.


One could. I saw no humour. Just a lot of disrespect.

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I come not to praise Domiguy, but to bury him.


Ok...

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I my world, the world I live in on a day to day basis, men can mother fuck each other at 11:30 and go to lunch at noon.

Women never seem to forget a slight.


Funny. Just last week I helped 2 men patch up a 3 year grudge. Just one example, I know. But again, I would argue your lack of proof. What you perceive in your little world might not be the global reality.

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Most folks have a small group of people who are their friends and thus supportive. It is the idea of a "sisterhood" of women based purely on the gender that seems silly


I don't argue with this. My position is that I don't really believe in some great all encompassing "sisterhood".

- LA

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:17:36 PM   
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As is your right.



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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:36:33 PM   
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Give it up, LA. Domi is Domi, and his goal is to rile us. The same qualities that made me a good middle school teacher work well here. I used to think well of Jeff, too, until recently.



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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:42:52 PM   
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LH?.. how could you think poorly of me?

Especially in the final analysis.... LA and I agree on the sisterhood thing.

and Domi, makes me laugh, life is short and if I ran out of gas, he would come and get me.

Thats a friend

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:45:52 PM   
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Yes, you are a straight white guy. He likes those.

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:48:32 PM   
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"The sisterhood." Is pretty much a load of crap....Especially when trying to expand the "sisterhood" tent to include dommes.

I can understand women rallying around and coming together over an important issue, say, breast cancer. They have walks and get togethers and I bet much of the typical catty behavior is completely minimized.

There is a legitimate sisterhood of nurturing and support when it comes to the disease of breast cancer, from the support groups to raising awareness and funds to finding a cure.

Now we bring in dommes and prostidommes under the tent. What do these people have in common that would somehow merit that they would share in some sort of a sisterhood, what, a love of cheesecake?

It's a foolish notion at the least. Anyone who thinks that dommes share a sisterhood doesn't understand the concept or meaning of the word or doesn't , in the first place, understand all of the different reasons that cause women to become dommes.

Women don't work well together. It is not promoted. You are actually raised and in a sense brain washed to view women as your competition not as your sisters.


Now I could go over to Fet and start a Forum....."The Brotherhood of the Dom." We would get along for the most part. We would talk about fishing, fartin, football and flesh...It would be lovely.






I for the first time agree with you. We also have the lack of cohesion from that competition. Women dont want to give a leg up to the newbie in the company. She worked her ass off to get there and by golly, you arent going to usurp her.

Then there is the type that was was so illastrated a few poists ago of women not even liking other woman. I remember years ago starting at a french restaurantin chicago. A bistro of sorts. The female bartender to my face said she didnt like women. She found them to be "sloppy". i thought ,"oh but of course, we dont have a wife ironing our clothes and these dang pesky breasts make it so difficult to have the tuxedo shirt lay right".


So not only are the men looking down at us. The women above us or thinking themselves superior are doing the queen bee thing to elevate themselves.

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:52:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Give it up, LA. Domi is Domi, and his goal is to rile us. The same qualities that made me a good middle school teacher work well here. I used to think well of Jeff, too, until recently.



Well I never would have made a good middle school teacher! Seriously. Every man I've ever dated has been a gentleman who would never dare show women the disrespect this pompous, obtuse and mysoginist ass has.

I doubt if I ignore him that he'll go away. I think he likes his own words too much. Insecure men tend to.

- LA

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:56:22 PM   
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I for the first time agree with you. We also have the lack of cohesion from that competition. Women dont want to give a leg up to the newbie in the company. She worked her ass off to get there and by golly, you arent going to usurp her.

Then there is the type that was was so illastrated a few poists ago of women not even liking other woman. I remember years ago starting at a french restaurantin chicago. A bistro of sorts. The female bartender to my face said she didnt like women. She found them to be "sloppy". i thought ,"oh but of course, we dont have a wife ironing our clothes and these dang pesky breasts make it so difficult to have the tuxedo shirt lay right".

So not only are the men looking down at us. The women above us or thinking themselves superior are doing the queen bee thing to elevate themselves.


I hear these types of stories all the time. I don't however experience them first hand. I seriously wonder why that is.

- LA

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 7:57:01 PM   
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I did want to mention that although I have witnessed some cattiness with woman, I have seen so much more giving from them. I see the depth of their relationship are so much deeper. We are friends, sisters, therapists, confidants and coaches to each other. Maybe the closeness creates the cattiness and desire to push away one who knows you so well for some distance. Bit I for one love the multi faceted onion like layers of female friendship and wouldnt trade them for the world.

So sure you dont get mad at your guy friends Domi,l but you probably dont remember their birthday and dont really talk about anything deeper than sports.

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 8:03:32 PM   
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I did want to mention that although I have witnessed some cattiness with woman, I have seen so much more giving from them.


This I find reassuring. :-)

- LA

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 8:10:49 PM   
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Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


I want to be in the sisterhood.

I can raise my fist. I can snarl. I've lowered my eyebrows (more than twice, actually).

I can do this.

(Do I have to do anything more than that?)

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 8:12:49 PM   
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I too, do not believe that being in a community such as this creates a "sisterhood". I never had a sister and since I was a little girl, I made the mistake of having a series of best friends whereby we shared everything and the friendship was all consuming.

The friendships seemed perfect until the time that my best friend betrayed a confidence or just turned on me. This seemed to happen a number of times and when I asked my Mom why this was, she would always say the same thing: "Don't rely on one girlfriend for everything. Have many women in your life as acquaintences. And don't share so much with your girlfriends."

At that time, I didn't really get that. But it turned out to be true. As an adult, I have had issues with women I tried to be friends with. Not sure why women get jealous and catty and competitive; I always thought we should have more solidarity, especially workwise.

So now, I heed my Mom's advice and have many acquaintences that fill different needs. I have a few true friends who I can trust, but very few.

So I don't feel that other subs are my sisters; I feel a kinship with other subs and also Dommes, but it is simply one commonality that we share our interest in this lifestyle. It is no more, and no less unless a friendship develops on another level.


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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 8:21:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


I want to be in the sisterhood.

I can raise my fist. I can snarl. I've lowered my eyebrows (more than twice, actually).

I can do this.

(Do I have to do anything more than that?)



You have to send me monies for new bras. Wacoals are pricey.

And leave the snarling to me, I am way better at it.

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 8:27:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


I want to be in the sisterhood.

I can raise my fist. I can snarl. I've lowered my eyebrows (more than twice, actually).

I can do this.

(Do I have to do anything more than that?)



You have to send me monies for new bras. Wacoals are pricey.

And leave the snarling to me, I am way better at it.


Be careful LH. He might lure you into his sissification fantasy!

- LA

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RE: Sisterhood - 12/23/2009 9:10:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


I want to be in the sisterhood.

I can raise my fist. I can snarl. I've lowered my eyebrows (more than twice, actually).

I can do this.

(Do I have to do anything more than that?)



You have to send me monies for new bras. Wacoals are pricey.

And leave the snarling to me, I am way better at it.


I actually have told others that about you.

(Twice).

(I infered it a few times as well).

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