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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 9:37:31 AM

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I think it was pretty clear, that I was referring to the electoral timeframe of 2010...but then not all people have the intellect needed to graps things that are not spoon-fed to them.....or maybe you don;t know when elections are held...so here is information you seem to need...

November 2010......there.....does that help?

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2010 cannot come fast enough so we can take these stooges out of office.......

I don't know which planet you're from but here, on Planet Earth, we're a couple of weeks into it.

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 9:40:16 AM

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So, who spoon-feeds you your information, hmmm :-) ?

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 9:57:29 AM

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With all due respect...not in this case. In the case of "global warming"...a conclusion was reached from iffy science, and then a massive effort was made to find things to back it up.

"Ready....shoot...aim."

Many separate fields of science all come to the same conclusion, in the past this would have been considered enough to demonstrate the validity of a theory.

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Trouble is, they deleted all the information (including over 80% of the climatological data from one of the colder land masses on the planet - 16% of the planet's land mass by the way...) that disproved the theory until they had the political answer they needed.

You'll have to give me source information for that, for me to be able to dispute it.

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I note that no one in the GW crowd quoted the evolving scientific theory that says reducing CO2 may threaten agriculture of the large scale needed to feed a growing planet population. But.....nah.....dead bodies are cold and therefore do not contribute to global warming. Well...maybe the release of methane will be a problem?....hmmm....cremation? (sp?)....nah...particulate emissions...

If you suddenly care about the population of third world countries then why block economic proposals amounting to billions in aid at Copenhagen? Forgive me for thinking your motives are rather disingenuous.

New methods should be found to farm in a sustainable way and existing agricultural wastage (which is a massive figure in the developed world due to farming subsidies) should be reduced.

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I am all in favor of improving the environment....I see nothing wrong with working to reduce some sorts of emissions....right the big wrongs...that is a worthy goal.....but not based on the farcical "science" of GW which is really a mask for global political reorganization and taxation.

Next you’ll be saying some of your best friends are global socialists.

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 10:45:58 AM

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Perhaps you may benefit from global warming in the short term but eventually you'll be indirectly killing whole ecologies that you depend on in a way you may not yet realise. There isn’t anything positive long term about it because these complex systems we don’t realise we need to survive exist with a finite balance and have done so for eons. You’ll see more consequences and at first you won’t make the direct link but eventually you will; this has been the problem with the climate science (it has taken us too long to realise these connections). Popeye uses this as a kind of “how could all these things relate to the climate of the world” argument, ignoring that studies have been done and these studies are why we became concerned with the whole issue in the first place.

It isn't often the case that people do studies to prove or disprove global warming as a first priority. They notice something such as bird migration, they find a pattern of it changing over a certain time period and they then try to find out why that is happening. It is backwards thinking that someone is paying scientists to conduct studies to prove climate science because usually the studies come about for the desire to study something completely unrelated.

But of course you know all…absolute fact...yea Popeye is right about you folks...don't know a damn thing but talk all day like you do...

But I can’t take it anymore…The answer…It makes no damn difference if we are at fault or not…stupid to argue…The thing to do is to clean up our planet…reduce our remove pollution...This will save perhaps millions of lives over the next hundred years. Not from Global warming but from disease caused by pollution. If it helps slow or stop global warming great…if it doesn’t we will still have clean air to breath and we kill all you fuckers that want to come to my back yard because the weather is nice here.

But it must be everyone who participates not just the US, China, and Europe...every county on this earth…no exceptions. If we leave third world countries out the big business will just move to where they can build factories to pollute as they please for profit.

This is the only answer when the why means nothing…so why argue? We should be thinking solutions instead of who is right or wrong.

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 10:57:23 AM

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The why is still important when people are using the wrong answer to justify no practical action or change, chicken and egg.

I agree with reducing respiratory diseases and such like, which is an obvious benefit of controlling pollution anyway.

How is the weather there seems pretty frosty to me, think I may go to Spain

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 12:18:27 PM

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Reducing pollution has always been more important than Global warming and a greater threat... It is not the wrong answer it is the only answer...If pollution is increasing the rate of global warming then the ONLY solution is to reduce it. It is a silly debate over who is at fault man or nature…while the world falls apart around us… It is paralyzing any action. Can’t you see it would be easier to expend energy reducing a known proven danger then a maybe one? Especially when it would prove one danger right or wrong and remedy another saving lives in the process. Are you so set on being right that you would do nothing?

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 4:18:22 PM

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I don't mind being wrong but the world isn't listening to me in terms of deciding what to do and so my opinion is not halting any progress that must be taken. The UN et al have decided reducing co2 is the way forward and this is what they are attempting. I am all for expanding programmes that economise our energy needs but they won't come about without legislative changes that set a level playing field to enable such things to succeed.

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/14/2010 6:51:15 PM

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I don't mind being wrong but the world isn't listening to me in terms of deciding what to do and so my opinion is not halting any progress that must be taken. The UN et al have decided reducing co2 is the way forward and this is what they are attempting. I am all for expanding programmes that economise our energy needs but they won't come about without legislative changes that set a level playing field to enable such things to succeed.

Same here I'm afraid...the world does not hear me or you...it is a shame if you ask me...but hell lets have fun while we're waiting for global disaster...lol

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/16/2010 4:39:35 PM

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Now here's a scholorly reply to global warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjrMDNpODOc

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/16/2010 6:42:19 PM

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Now here's a scholorly reply to global warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjrMDNpODOc

Popeye- I note that you are using power in your home.

Do you think this is appropriate?

You know- being that the planet is in peril?

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/16/2010 10:16:03 PM

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Now here's a scholorly reply to global warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjrMDNpODOc

Popeye- I note that you are using power in your home.

Do you think this is appropriate?

You know- being that the planet is in peril?

PaHunk, no, I have a couple of the zombies chained to a power wheel you know, like hampsters generating electricity.

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RE: "Night of the global warmers." - 1/17/2010 10:48:36 AM

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Now here's a scholorly reply to global warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjrMDNpODOc

Popeye- I note that you are using power in your home.

Do you think this is appropriate?

You know- being that the planet is in peril?

PaHunk, no, I have a couple of the zombies chained to a power wheel you know, like hampsters generating electricity.

Wasn't that in Niven and Pournelle's Inferno?

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