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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 12:49:50 PM   
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good gawd, it is a fucking metaphor, a point to begin discussion

if i said my real ideas on the topic id be flamed into the 4000's


Lol...Funny how that works on a site where you'd think freedom of expression and lifestyle would be more respected.


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 12:54:04 PM   
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good gawd, it is a fucking metaphor, a point to begin discussion

if i said my real ideas on the topic id be flamed into the 4000's


Lol...Funny how that works on a site where you'd think freedom of expression and lifestyle would be more respected.



you'd think but you'd be wrong

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 12:58:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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good gawd, it is a fucking metaphor, a point to begin discussion

if i said my real ideas on the topic id be flamed into the 4000's


Lol...Funny how that works on a site where you'd think freedom of expression and lifestyle would be more respected.




Well people have unrealistic expectations all the time.....

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 12:58:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		So this whole thing is a rhetorical question, slanted to show false bias?  Jeeeeezus. 


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:00:06 PM   
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So this whole thing is a rhetorical question, slanted to show false bias?  Jeeeeezus. 


Cali



what thread are you referring too?

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:00:49 PM   
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my concept is of a fixed volume in which you both exist the greater volume taken by her limits the les volume you have in which to exercise authority

your thoughts?



My thoughts are simply.... "So... what is your point!?"

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:01:22 PM   
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For most people that I have known- that is, real people who live in real relationships- limits really only become an issue in the very early stages- once there is a compatibility, and a serious relationship develops, limits grow and change and expand or contract based on their personal growth and development.


I realize that this is, relatively speaking, a small group of people so I would agree but it's not always the case..I've seen females with no limits..as in would do pretty much anything you'd ask..I've had them so I know it's the case and as I believe Merc pointed out:

I had plenty of 'limits' coming into our relationship. I still have them; that means WE still have them.

beth has none - but knowing me well, she trusted mine coming into our relationship, she trusts ours now. They've never changed in 7 years - Maybe that means we're just 'stagnant'.


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:02:00 PM   
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So this whole thing is a rhetorical question, slanted to show false bias?  Jeeeeezus. 


Cali



what thread are you referring too?



just throw a dart to anyone you started... and that should answer your question

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:02:48 PM   
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Well people have unrealistic expectations all the time.....


Yeah it was a little sarcasm..I don't expect or need people to agree with me in order to live my life on my terms.


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:04:36 PM   
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Well people have unrealistic expectations all the time.....


Yeah it was a little sarcasm..I don't expect or need people to agree with me in order to live my life on my terms.




Interestly enough... some people do.

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:05:24 PM   
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Interestly enough... some people do.


True


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:07:19 PM   
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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:10:19 PM   
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Interestly enough... some people do.


True




I would also say that this doesn't make them a weak person anymore than it makes a person strong who can walk their path without anyone supporting or agreeing with them.

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:12:52 PM   
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It can be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR019T2uNGQ



rofl! Now that brought me right back to my '80's aerobics class. It was one of the instructor's standards - though not that version.

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:17:55 PM   
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Interestly enough... some people do.


I missed that for a second..I gotya.

Distracted talking to someone :>

You mean you care about your females..Of course you do...and I do care about them when I'm with one but I still won't let it change what I'm looking for or expect.

By your comment you may be implying that I'm doing something in some way you don't agree with?

All I can say to that is:
Your not in a position to make that judgment. You may pass it but you aren't qualified.

We each have our own way of doing things. I don't think my way is better than yours..only better for me.

Now I haven't had a relationship as long as you've had with one of your females (20 years is it?) but does that make you qualified to speak for all males or very well for you?

Maybe you weren't implying that  :> My apologies.


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:20:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whether or not I accept a girls limits depends largely on the girl...WHAT is it? WHY is it?

When I take on a girl, most want to hand you their limits rather quickly, though many months may be ahead before they come into play. I listen, I ask questions about the limit. The questions vary depending on the limit. I tell them upfront that presenting me with a limit, in most cases is to present me with a challenge. They can decide whether or not they wish to continue on the road to collar. Mind you, I have my own limits where I won't go, the above applies to limits presented to me that are contrary to my own.

If she chooses to continue, as I get to know the girl I get a clearer picture as to what that limit is and why in exists...is t something I can help her to overcome in time or is it a physical or mental issue that is beyond my ability to help her to reconcile? Onc I have determined that THEN and only then will I commit to whether or not I am going to accept that limit.



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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:20:24 PM   
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I'd say post them osf..Hopefully you have a thick skin lol.




i'd feel like a lone wildebeest walking through lion country


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:21:06 PM   
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It can be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR019T2uNGQ



rofl! Now that brought me right back to my '80's aerobics class. It was one of the instructor's standards - though not that version.


lol. I did like the original when I was growing up and it seem to pop into my head when people talk about going in circles


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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:23:22 PM   
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good gawd, it is a fucking metaphor, a point to begin discussion

if i said my real ideas on the topic id be flamed into the 4000's


You'd rather safely cower behind obscure whatif scenarios and metaphors, than risk being flamed for standing strong in your actual beliefs? 

I think you starting a topic you believe strongly in, and being true to your ideas, would be refreshing.

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RE: accepting limits - 1/10/2010 1:27:52 PM   
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good gawd, it is a fucking metaphor, a point to begin discussion

if i said my real ideas on the topic id be flamed into the 4000's


You'd rather safely cower behind obscure whatif scenarios and metaphors, than risk being flamed for standing strong in your actual beliefs? 

I think you starting a topic you believe strongly in, and being true to your ideas, would be refreshing.


i gave a simple concept for discussion , i never said it was my complete concept

and i guess i'm too chicken to tell all, but for this thread it wasn't necessary

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