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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/8/2010 9:18:32 AM

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For me it is much like anything else I own and appreciate. Being able to fine tune the embodiment of the slave/person, remove all the BS mind clutter that comes from vanilla central and creating a more impressive and aware version of the self, is what is in it for Me. Of course I am not really creating anything, I am just takin the sub/salve for constant test runs, evaluating, finding out what is fucked up, peeling away layers and applying techniques to undo the shit and replace it with more functional mental parts that serve a synchronous and harmonious vibration between us.

I love to tinker with what I own.... and admittedly with some things I don't own.

There's some vicarious experience of deeper love as well, that is more difficult for Me to attain or experience without a sub/slave, just because of the D factor. So ownership traverses some give and take boundaries for Me, that I just happen to have full control of.

I own you means you're Me. It means you're fully integrated part of Me.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/8/2010 11:12:01 AM

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At least once-a-month, someone is going to be thinking, "I'm going to put rat poison in your Corn Flakes!" after being ordered to clean the bathroom.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/8/2010 5:01:29 PM

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To own a woman is something I take a great sense of pride and responsibility. I see it as my duty to teach, guide and direct my slave through her journey into continual servitude. The slow methodical implementation of my directions provide a basis for a strong M/s relationship. The pride I feel is seeing my sub/slave grow and become a well rounded slave with a full sense of purpose. The responsibility of mine is to not fuck up.......so I have to unteach at a later point. I love my pet.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/8/2010 9:47:26 PM

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I am curious, if owned, does that mean live in? Or is it more of an emotional surrender?

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/8/2010 9:56:34 PM

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I think being owned can encompass both situations.......to truely be owned it must be in my mind atleast a 24/7 relationship. Having said that just because someone is under your house doesn't mean they have truely surrendered until they have surrendered emotionally. Emotional surrender is the seal to a sub/slave's committment.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/9/2010 10:39:35 AM

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OWNERSHIP; The object may be corporeal, such as furniture, or completely the creature of law, such as a patent, copyright, or annuity; it may be movable, such as an animal, or immovable, such as land. Because the objects of property and the protected relations are different in every culture and vary according to law, custom, and economic system and the relative social status of those who enjoy its privileges.

I’ll just assume this is a genuine and sincere question since oft times it’s hard to tell here.

This is at the core of full submission and Dominance, the O/p (TPE) relationship. The word that is often absent is responsibility.

O/p requires the elegant truth of Ds, that is the parties involved are equals. This is always the fulcrum which brings out the more amusing complaints and denials.

The responsibly of surrender must be equal to the responsibility of Domination.

This is where you find the real difference between surrender and submission. The difference between Domination and control. The difference between vanilla Sm/Ds and not.

As much as the property is responsible in surrender to the Owner the Owner is as responsible to the direction, guidance and allowance toward the property.

This is the beauty that is O/p not the equipment or lingo, it’s no longer fantasy.

Enjoy your wonder-filled day

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/9/2010 1:00:30 PM

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i like mine live in, that way i have a better chance of keeping them confused

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/10/2010 2:11:19 PM

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What does it mean to you to own a woman?

One more mouth to feed, one more hole to plug.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/10/2010 5:52:09 PM

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Awwwww, Daddy....erm....RS....dat was sweet.

eta....shoulda said "three more holes to plug", tho.....just sayin.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/13/2010 4:15:57 PM

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Dependence its where all true power originates she needs what I can provide and I can make use of her so I keep her

Good point.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/13/2010 4:17:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

At least once-a-month, someone is going to be thinking, "I'm going to put rat poison in your Corn Flakes!" after being ordered to clean the bathroom.

Well, if you wouldn't spray all over the place but pay attention to where you're aiming that thing...

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 2/13/2010 9:50:57 PM

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as i have said

If you want what i am then you have to do what i want

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/27/2010 3:20:59 PM

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Ownership to us means dedication. We are both dedicated to each other. I listen to her side but make important decisions. I enjoy using her, she loves being used. It's a way to scratch that itch. We met late in life so we're even more dedicated than most. I try out her scenarios and she tries out mine. We've found a number of scenarios that we love. They leave us exhaused and happy.

Jeff

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/27/2010 3:31:46 PM

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It's a sterotypical fantasy. I prefer dedicated collusion.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/29/2010 2:38:39 AM

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You own a woman as much as she wants to be owned and for as long as she wants to be owned. You own her in the way she likes to be owned, when, where, and however she wants to be owned. You own a woman as long as she feels like being owned, in particular you own her as it is her pleasure to be owned.
A woman will only be owned by whoever she wants to be owned by, in the manner that she accepts to be owned and in the fullness of her wanting to be owned. You own a woman for as long as it amuses her to be owned, and as long as she is enthralled by being owned, her ownership by you, is always subject to her wanting you to be her owner. A woman may be owned by You if you succeed in captivating her need for ownership and it will endure for as long as she wants it to.
The ownership is not as wonderful as knowing that it is you that she wants to be owned by.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/29/2010 6:25:41 AM

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You own a woman as much as she wants to be owned and for as long as she wants to be owned. You own her in the way she likes to be owned, when, where, and however she wants to be owned. You own a woman as long as she feels like being owned, in particular you own her as it is her pleasure to be owned.
A woman will only be owned by whoever she wants to be owned by, in the manner that she accepts to be owned and in the fullness of her wanting to be owned. You own a woman for as long as it amuses her to be owned, and as long as she is enthralled by being owned, her ownership by you, is always subject to her wanting you to be her owner. A woman may be owned by You if you succeed in captivating her need for ownership and it will endure for as long as she wants it to.
The ownership is not as wonderful as knowing that it is you that she wants to be owned by.

i take youre point, but it all sounds a bit one sided to me - its true of course that you cant make a sub feel owned, or want to be owned by someone if it doesnt work for that sub but youre missing out the bit where the sub feels that their D wants to own them, to own them in their own particular way, that gives the owner pleasure for as long as that pleasure continues and amuses them, enthralls them and endures.

two way street always.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/29/2010 8:12:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

Awwwww, Daddy....erm....RS....dat was sweet.

eta....shoulda said "three more holes to plug", tho.....just sayin.

Come here, I'll give you a demo!

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/29/2010 8:30:36 PM

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It's pretty fiction.

Versus petty friction.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/29/2010 9:25:09 PM

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I wrote this some time ago for another non lifestyle/B.D.S.M forum in reply to a question. This reply has been upsetting to some very good folk so pulled the post and sent a copy of this to the one who had asked the original question of me. Although I write about a Master/slave relationship, all that I have said equally applies to a Mistress/slave relationship to. Should some feel that this might apply to a Dominant/submissive dynamic, then us it I simply do not have any experience in relationships with submissives, only slaves. perhaps in some way it will shed some light to the OP's question about the reality (albeit my reality from personal experience) of owning a female slave.

In my world there are an over abundance who believe a woman collared is then a toy to be used and not thought about as all she wants to do is serve him as his slave.. She does want that with a fire burning in her belly that is unquenchable unless a man who does not care for her owns her.

It takes a Man, a real man to understand that his slave is something more precious than all the wealth in the world. She has given him her submission for she believes he is trustworthy, honest, truthful, honourable, and possesses both integrity and kindness. In his hands, she gives her being. He holds her health, her wellbeing, her happiness, her life itself. With a single glance, he can reduce her to tears and her world roiling with misery as she wonders what she did wrong. With the touch if a hand on her hair he can lift her to a state is bliss and ecstasy. Kneeling at his feet naked, she is in heaven. It takes a real Man to accept this responsibility and hold it truly without guile and misuse; It takes great courage and a huge heart to give yourself completely to such a man. Both must be worthy of the other. Such a Master will want to and indeed work hard on knowing his slave, her needs, her wants, her secret desires. At this stage they work as one, complementing one another and yet two individual people. She knows she can speak to him of her problems and gently put things right when he makes mistakes for she too knows he is a man and thus not perfect. When he is at work, she misses his masculine presence. He too misses her being near him so that their time together is complete. Are such men really walking this earth? I have been blessed by knowing a number of them and their girls. Mayhap one day I may aspire to walk with then as an equal.

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RE: What does it mean to you to own a woman? - 4/30/2010 12:19:32 AM

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You own a woman as much as she wants to be owned and for as long as she wants to be owned. You own her in the way she likes to be owned, when, where, and however she wants to be owned. You own a woman as long as she feels like being owned, in particular you own her as it is her pleasure to be owned.
A woman will only be owned by whoever she wants to be owned by, in the manner that she accepts to be owned and in the fullness of her wanting to be owned. You own a woman for as long as it amuses her to be owned, and as long as she is enthralled by being owned, her ownership by you, is always subject to her wanting you to be her owner. A woman may be owned by You if you succeed in captivating her need for ownership and it will endure for as long as she wants it to.
The ownership is not as wonderful as knowing that it is you that she wants to be owned by.

i take youre point, but it all sounds a bit one sided to me - its true of course that you cant make a sub feel owned, or want to be owned by someone if it doesnt work for that sub but youre missing out the bit where the sub feels that their D wants to own them, to own them in their own particular way, that gives the owner pleasure for as long as that pleasure continues and amuses them, enthralls them and endures.

two way street always.

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