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thompsonx -> RE: So long Air America and don't worry... (2/9/2010 9:02:55 PM)
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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
Actually that not what "your" means. But you can pretend it and "s mean whatever you like.
Well it is pretty advanced English grammar probably fifth or sixth grade.
I have infact shown you hydrogen stations on I5
and that California has a hydrogen plan, which is in the early stages of implementation.
In fact you have not. I have posted from the citation you posted to support your position that what you are saying is not true.
I was absolutly incorrect in thinking a few years ago, that the original plan was being met. They are far behind, and have scaled back
Yeah you said it was complete when in fact it has not even been started...again from the cite you posted.
Now it is quite clear to all that you are running away from your claim that I said Solar cell manufactures sell them for less than they cost.
Because you know it is a lie.
You really seem to like being spanked in public.
I have already posted this but take a look at the bolded portions to refresh your memory on your less than valid statements.
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ORIGINAL: luckydog1
Yeah sinergy, I agree, the methane from the swamps is a huge problem, in reality our CO2 is only a tiny part of the problem, hence my oppositon to Kyoto.
If you set up a commercial power plant of any kind, it has to be hooked to the grid carefully, so yeah if you plugged your house into 5000 wave generators it would explode. But that would be a commercaill opperation, and at some point you would take steps to hook it up correctly. My city is installing a wind farm and doing a pilot project of tidal energy. You could put a small windmill on your roof/or a solar panel ( but they take as much energy to make as you eventually get out of them), and it could provide 1/3 +of your own power needs, greatly cutting demand on the grid(and lowering carbon emmissions), that would have huge benfits and buy us time to get a better system.
In California right Now the entire I5 corridor is Hydrogen fueled. It is great they use a catalytic reformer( very little energy) to seperate hydrogen from natural Gas on site. At our post office they use a similar system that removes the hydrogen from Natural gas on site, then it goes through a fuel cell to make electricty, and the excess goes to our airport. the buety is that the fuel cell gets very hot, and that heat is reclaimed and used to heat water and the radiators( and in Alaska we use a lot of heat). I do not have the numbers off the top of my head, but burning Nat Gas to boil water to make steam to spin a turbine to make electricity isaproxximatly 35% efficency. Using the reformer process, and using the heat to heat water gives closer to 85% effiency( plus almost zero emmisions). Most of america is already piped for nat gas, so it really isn't much of a challenge to use these process. And eventuyally straight hydrogen could be put through the same pipes. Its not going to happen tomorow, but it has already started
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Now if you could you point out anywhere I claimed they sold them for less than they cost to make, I would certainly admit it. But I never made any such claim.
You are lying. As usuall.
Though I do believe that all Solar panels get tax credits and other subsidies. and if that is not true, show me and I will admit it.
Here you go sweetie.
Your original post where you speak of the "Hydrogen Highway" and solar pannels, I bolded it so you will be able to spot them easily.
I think that your next post should contain some sort of appology.
You will notice that I have now shown you twice that you said thatquote:
a solar panel ( but they take as much energy to make as you eventually get out of them),
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