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Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 4:29:17 PM   
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Please, no flames about "safety."

I am weighing getting my slave breast implants vs. just a lift. Either way, there will certainly be a time that I can't do any kind of breast torture, at least until the scars are fully healed and the underlying tissue is healed. I know that. I am considering a silicon, sub-muscular implant. The implants will be cohesive gel.

Does anyone have any ACTUAL experience with heavy breast torture after an augmentation or anchor lift?

By heavy, I mean caning (up to and including a 5/8 inch cane, leaving railroad tracks), paddles, electro-torture, squeezing (hard enough that your fingers are only an inch or so apart), and 180 degree twisting.

I don't intend on chancing it too much, and assume that as long as I stay focused on the glandular tissue, there shouldn't be to much of a problem because the implant is protected by the pectoral muscle, yet I will still scale things back significantly if I do the implants.

Someone who had a chance to ask these questions of a kink freindly plastic surgeon would be helpful.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 4:45:55 PM   
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i have that kind of implants.  We call them "gummy bear implants" they do not leak if they are cut or punctured.  Mine are under the muscle. 
 
i got mine because i had bi-lateral mastectomy for Breast Cancer.
 
As far as breast torture...it wouldn't do much for me because i have no feeling in the skin tissue over the implant.  i know some other girls who have had other types of breast surgery and they say the same thing...the feeling is gone
 
So what is the purpose of breast torture if the girl can't feel it? 

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:10:47 PM   
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In that case, there wouldn't be much point. Only from past experience, a previous partner (not really into BDSM at all) became super sensitive so I assumed most would retain some feeling.

I still like the look of the marks though, so there is that.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:36:18 PM   
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From other people i know, feeling is non existant.

Is this procedure due to medical reasons or just your wanting it?

Cant you accept her as she is!

If the procedure is on medical grounds, i have doubts she'd be worrying about "play". more on the lines of you still accepting her as a person.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:48:13 PM   
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Hmmmmm....what a conundrum.

OP, listen, I have an idea. Why don't you get a dick transplant first to test your theory. Then, post an ad for a sadistic Dom or Domme to come and test the torture ideas.

After you are revived, you may then have the answer you seek.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:49:15 PM   
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Sorry you're getting the childish responses, OP, it happens.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:53:28 PM   
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Rumpus, i don't know which ones you are calling childish, but my post was quite serious.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:53:51 PM   
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Perhaps you missed the "slave" part....and I mean that in the strictest possible, historical interpretation of the word.

as a side note, the incidence of total loss of feeling as a result of cosmetic breast enhancement has been documented in medical literature as almost non-existant.....anecdotal evidence is just that. Loss of feeling in the nipples has been known to happen, but it is fairly rare. And......not really the question anyway.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 5:55:37 PM   
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fluffy, your answer was fine.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 6:04:26 PM   
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Not you, fluffy, no worries. ;)

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 6:04:56 PM   
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Philosophy and  individual responses to feeling aside, can anyone address the medical /safety aspects of heavy breastplay that  Ph0enixF1reasked. And if so, what kings of implantsand surgical proceedure would or would not be more conducive without causing complications?   Another inquiring mind would like to know.  Thanks

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 6:17:35 PM   
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slave does not automatically include medical prcedures that may or maynot be harmful to the recipient.

i do wonder why if you wanted someone with large boobs you picked someone that didnt have them.

all medical procedures carry risk.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 6:34:33 PM   
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I think there may be something like....oh, I don't know....10 million threads arguing what a slave should be subjected to on here.....I can give you links if you want.

There is also the possibility...as hard as this may be to believe...that she actually wants them.

So, anyway......Back to the original question.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 7:02:11 PM   
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Curious as to the responses as I've always wanted augmentation...
Also...I see nothing wrong with an owner wanting implants for their slave.
He asked for physical limitations to implants not why he should or shouldn't get them for his slave.



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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 7:24:06 PM   
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If you're willing to spend $10,000 out of pocket for a cosmetic reconstruction for her, I'm curious as to why you won't spend a couple hundred to ask a DOCTOR about this beforehand. Soliciting comments here won't give you any info. You need to talk to surgeons.

With that said, I've known several people who have had some kind of work done on their breasts. Some became supersensitive so no touching of the breasts could be done thereafter and others lost 50% and up of sensation. Not one said it was just the same afterwards as before.

Out of curiousity, what happens if she cannot tolerate any sensation play at all on them afterwards to the point of ending the relationship if you insist on doing this? Are you going to pay to have her returned to normal, assuming that can be done? How about awards for pain and suffering?

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 7:26:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

Sorry you're getting the childish responses, OP, it happens.



Uh, whomever you are? Neither I nor anyone here is seeking your approval on our posts.

You don't like it, tough. Don't read it.

Oh, and get over yourself, 'k?

Have a fab evening.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/21/2010 7:44:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ph0enixF1re

Please, no flames about "safety."

I am weighing getting my slave breast implants vs. just a lift. Either way, there will certainly be a time that I can't do any kind of breast torture, at least until the scars are fully healed and the underlying tissue is healed. I know that. I am considering a silicon, sub-muscular implant. The implants will be cohesive gel.

Does anyone have any ACTUAL experience with heavy breast torture after an augmentation or anchor lift?

By heavy, I mean caning (up to and including a 5/8 inch cane, leaving railroad tracks), paddles, electro-torture, squeezing (hard enough that your fingers are only an inch or so apart), and 180 degree twisting.

I don't intend on chancing it too much, and assume that as long as I stay focused on the glandular tissue, there shouldn't be to much of a problem because the implant is protected by the pectoral muscle, yet I will still scale things back significantly if I do the implants.

Someone who had a chance to ask these questions of a kink freindly plastic surgeon would be helpful.


Breast implants can break from accidents of even falls.  So depending on how far you intend on taking it?  Yeah, you could definitely rupture an implant, and that can have a lot of after effects.  The risk also tends to increase the older they are so its something you're going to have to keep in mind.  To put it in perspective... the tech's always have to know if a person has implants when doing a mammogram - because the force can cause them to break.  They can even happen... just because.

But seriously, if you want to know the real risk - suck it up and ask the plastic surgeon, because if you go to far and you rupture it you'll be explaining it to them anyway.

Personally, I think you are better off doing a lift or you're going to find your new "toys' so to speak aren't quite as fun as you expected.  (Or rather the person who has them isn't.. when one bursts and it needs to be replaced because you popped one.)

A couple past threads:

Breast Implants & Play

Implants & Breast Play

Breast Implants

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/22/2010 1:47:26 AM   
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A good place to look around and ask questions is a breast augmentation message board. Maybe phrase your question differently (pretend to post as her, mention an activity more mundane than caning...). Here's one, google will lead you to more.

As far as sensitivity goes, if you do a thread search there, a really large percentage lose some sensitivity (some gain it though!) but it's hard to say if it's permanent or not because they don't say how long ago their surgery was.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/22/2010 8:49:27 AM   
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For the people who went on a tangent unrelated to the OP's question :

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There have been a number of implant manufacturer studies conducted to determine the frequency of nipple and breast sensation changes experienced by women who have had breast augmentation surgery. According to the largest implant manufacturers, Inamed and Mentor, studies suggest that between five and nine percent of patients experience intense changes in nipple sensation at three years and ten percent do at five years. An additional ten percent of patients will experience a permanent loss of nipple sensation. Seven to eight percent of patients experience intense skin sensation between three and five years after breast augmentation surgery.

This means that over thirty percent of all women will experience nipple and breast sensation changes after breast augmentation surgery. There are some factors that can increase the risk of nipple and breast sensation changes following surgery. Periareolar incision techniques pose a greater likelihood that the patient will experience nipple and breast sensation changes. A few studies have also shown an increase in this risk for patients who undergo the transaxillary incision technique. Nipple and breast sensation changes are possible with any type of incision when nerve damage is caused.

Nipple and breast sensation changes also seem to be more common in patients who choose subglandular, rather than submuscular, placement of the breast implants. This complication is more likely with subglandular placement because there is a greater chance that the surgical procedure will interfere and damage the outer layers of the skin that are responsible for sensation.
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To the OP, I wouldn't worry about it too much until you decide on a surgeon. Most plastic surgery requires a consultation prior to the appointment. Talk to the surgeon who you have chosen to perform the procedure directly. He/she might have a different suggestion on the type/position of the implant they would suggest for a patient who expects that level of play after full recovery.

Most nerve damage stemming from breast augmentation comes from stretching or damage to the fourth intercostal nerve branch, which runs all the way down to the nipple. Talk to your surgeon and find the version of the procedure that stays away from this nerve bundle as much as possible. Sensitivity may change immediately after the procedure and take as much as 3 years to finish its transition.

Also keep in mind that all breast augmentation carries some lessening in sensitivity to the breast (not the nipple or areola) simply because the skin is stretching across a wider area and the nerve endings are spreading farther apart.

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RE: Breast Play after Implants - 1/24/2010 4:34:43 PM   
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I had gel implants. My breasts and especially my nipples remain sensitive....especially my nipples. I lost none of the feeling.

As to play....since my implants and when I was pro subbing I've had needles in my breasts, canes used on them and made a few amateur breast whipping films. Oh, and slapping, pinching and clamps and weights.



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ORIGINAL: Ph0enixF1re

Please, no flames about "safety."

I am weighing getting my slave breast implants vs. just a lift. Either way, there will certainly be a time that I can't do any kind of breast torture, at least until the scars are fully healed and the underlying tissue is healed. I know that. I am considering a silicon, sub-muscular implant. The implants will be cohesive gel.

Does anyone have any ACTUAL experience with heavy breast torture after an augmentation or anchor lift?

By heavy, I mean caning (up to and including a 5/8 inch cane, leaving railroad tracks), paddles, electro-torture, squeezing (hard enough that your fingers are only an inch or so apart), and 180 degree twisting.

I don't intend on chancing it too much, and assume that as long as I stay focused on the glandular tissue, there shouldn't be to much of a problem because the implant is protected by the pectoral muscle, yet I will still scale things back significantly if I do the implants.

Someone who had a chance to ask these questions of a kink freindly plastic surgeon would be helpful.



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