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LafayetteLady -> RE: breeding ? (1/29/2010 10:10:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl

Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 

Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.


Are you serious? No one has an "absolute right" to force a woman, slave or not to have a child, let alone have those children be the result of some train wreck sexual marathon.

Where is the responsiblity ultimately be? With the mother, who if she is stupid enough to agree to such a thing is not fit to be a parent.

If you are serious about this question, and if this concept is being presented to you, I would suggest that you end the relationship. If you actually are going to do this, I would suggest you get psychological counseling. Children are not a "toy" that you create out of BDSM play.

ETA: First you were going to move to south bumblefuck Australia to be the slave of a man you never met, now you are going to "breed" with whatever men he chooses?




ResidentSadist -> RE: breeding ? (1/29/2010 10:23:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

...south bumblefuck Australia...

Is that near Sydney?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: breeding ? (1/29/2010 11:00:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: Hawkwindblues

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- LA


OT

Very nice legs.

HWK



Don't read my words, just lust after my legs? Uh huh... ;-)

- LA


Women. They're all the same. Only one thing on their minds.




ResidentSadist -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 12:18:20 AM)

It is not polite to answer a question with a question, you have my apology in advance.

Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?




littlebitxxx -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 12:26:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?



<FR>   What he said.  That's what 'ownership' means.




WyldHrt -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 1:12:23 AM)

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Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?

Thanks for reminding me why I'm a sub, RS!




LafayetteLady -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 1:32:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

It is not polite to answer a question with a question, you have my apology in advance.

Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?


Because it is perfectly logical to "demand" that two other people create a child for "master's" jollies. The responsibility goes to those who created that child as in the woman who carried it and the man who implanted the sperm. And when this child interferes with the "dynamic" because its needs come first and Mr. "Uber-master" gets annoyed that "he" can't come first, then what?

The OP is in her 40s, so the risk of having a child that is disabled is increased. "Breeding" is not part of "play." Children are living human beings that should not be created to satisfy someone's whims.




NormalOutside -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 1:39:54 AM)

Nobody has the right to force anyone else to reproduce, end of story.




allthatjaz -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 1:40:32 AM)

Just as I think it is morally wrong for a woman to use a man so that she can get pregnant and lets face it, that happens (he thinks she is on contraceptives. She has every intention of being impregnated) I also think its wrong for a master to use his kink to create a new life.
Its alright if you get off on getting your slave fucked by others but for breeding? This is a fantasy and nothing more because if it was more then your exposing her to unprotected sex with christ knows who and the result of that could be an innocent life, possibly born with disease to two very fucked up parents.




aldompdx -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 2:55:19 AM)

Surrender is by ongoing free choice from self will. It is firstly YOUR responsibility and YOUR choice. It only happens if YOU allow it. The true question is -- what do you REALLY want?




Arrogance -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 3:25:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

It is not polite to answer a question with a question, you have my apology in advance.

Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?


This post and anyone who has given kudos to it shows why people on the outside are disgusted by this "lifestyle".

Get a clue guys. Reality doesn't revolve around what gets your pants tighter or wetter.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 3:40:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl
Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?


Do the child a favor. Give it up for adoption so the child can have intelligent thinking humans for parents.





This is just you being a snarky bitch.




Elizabeth666 -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 3:45:05 AM)

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ETA: First you were going to move to south bumblefuck Australia to be the slave of a man you never met, now you are going to "breed" with whatever men he chooses?


That's who the OP is? I didn't connect the SN.

So, I guess this means she may have decided to go? lol




LadyAngelika -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 4:08:21 AM)

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Children are living human beings that should not be created to satisfy someone's whims.


Quoted for truth.

- LA




afkarr -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 4:23:47 AM)

"How will it change the dynamics of the relationship?"

Baby will be the new Master, and will ensure you enjoy all the wonders of sleep deprivation, diapers, booger-play, and extended periods of forced celebacy.




DarkSteven -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 4:34:43 AM)

These are two of the areas of BDSM that squick me out.  Sharing and breeding.  Even using the word "breeding" to objectify a human pregnancy bothers me.

Sharing is a hot fantasy.  But the idea of giving one's woman to various and sundry men, some of whom might be clean, some of whom might be diseased (if she's going to conceive, it'll be unprotected sex, right?) strikes me as sheer lunacy.

IMO, pregnancy is something that beats the shit out of a woman's body and is only justified by the screaming bundle of joy and sleeplessness that results.

I feel that a Master does have the prerogative to do something like this, but that a doofus who actually would do it isn't a Master.





StrangerThan -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 4:37:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl

Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 

Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.


You're basing a quasi-legal and moral question on a basis that has no legality to it. Slaves are owned by consent, not by right. Regardless of whether you stay or go, master (lowercase intentional) has no right that is not given to him by consent of the slave. Your entire existence is by consent, whether it seems that way or not.

The question then is not, does he have the right. The question is, will you allow another to arbitrarily choose who the biological father of your child or children will be? Even more, will you allow them to do so without addressing the obvious questions of care and responsibility?

The fact that you are asking those questions to strangers on a message board tells me that netiher of you are responsible enough to consider the idea, much less procreate. The offsprings have the indelible right to a life wherein they make their own choices, not one bent, twisted, or slanted by yours.

Sounds like master is a complete fucking dickhead, and slave is a dunce.

Sorry, just does.




WyldHrt -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 4:42:19 AM)

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There are one of the areas of BDSM that squick me out.  Sharing and breeding.  Even using the word "breeding" to objectify a human pregnancy bothers me.

And yet again, I lubs you. [:)]




Elizabeth666 -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 4:58:16 AM)

BAHAHAHAHA!!

I just got this message from someone: interested in breeding?

LOL




lally2 -> RE: breeding ? (1/30/2010 5:15:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Why would he?


presumably he cant father his own kid. sort of surrogacy in a way. im guessing.

i would think it would put the slave in a difficult position if the relationship with the Master ended and the father of the child dissappeared or had signed away any rights to the effect that they were in any way responsible.

would it be the same as if she went to a sperm bank, where no liability is attached to the sperm donor.

if the donor is being asked to produce a kid and nothing else then he presumably has no obligation to give over personal information that is traceable, if asked to give over traceable information he would be entitled to assume that the whole thing could come back and bite him, chances are he would then refuse to take part.

so, all in all, a bit dodgy.




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