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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 6:29:31 AM

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Oh... that kind of breeding. I was thinking about good breeding, you know, nice manners, having been well brought up. That's very important.
Breading is good too. Nice crispy coating on the outside of fried chicken. Mmmm.

As far as allowing yourself to be impregnated by strangers at your Master's whim? When it all goes south, just remember you only have yourself to blame for it. Now if they roll you in crumbs and try to fry you, I'd definitely recommend saying no.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 6:48:40 AM

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I try not to get into the whole moral debate of what's good and bad with masters, slaves and all the in betweens. Because I sincerely believe that what goes on between two (or more if you're poly) *willing* participants is their own business as long as nobody's hurt in the process, physically or mentally.

My problem with Breeding, as it is, is that while you're getting your fantasy kicks off it's stopped being being between those willing participants. Now if these people discussed with each other and decided they actually wanted to start a family and what that entails then I'd be first in line to wish them the best. Doing breeding as a kink thing and not caring, realizing or acknowledging the result? Probably one of the few times I'd actually tell people 'No, this is wrong. Get Help, Now.'.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 6:50:37 AM

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You forgot?
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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?

Thanks for reminding me why I'm a sub, RS!

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:04:00 AM

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Have we learned nothing about indiscriminate breeding people?

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:08:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

It is not polite to answer a question with a question, you have my apology in advance.

Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?
Why would a Master want a “slave” he didn’t have the right to breed?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?
With Master or to whom he delegates.

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
How could a Master/slave dynamic change by exercising Master/slave dynamics?

Because it is perfectly logical to "demand" that two other people create a child for "master's" jollies. The responsibility goes to those who created that child as in the woman who carried it and the man who implanted the sperm. And when this child interferes with the "dynamic" because its needs come first and Mr. "Uber-master" gets annoyed that "he" can't come first, then what?

The OP is in her 40s, so the risk of having a child that is disabled is increased. "Breeding" is not part of "play." Children are living human beings that should not be created to satisfy someone's whims.

You take the subject of lineage much more lightly than I do. You also project some very strange motives and perspectives on others, as is your prerogative.

Also your opinion of 40 year olds is antiquated considering modern medical screening techniques used for donors.

Further, no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Perhaps a “slave” that doesn’t want babies should find a Master that is less jovial lineage and has the same goals? Or consider a different style of relation that allows negotiation?

Frankly, the reckless attitude you show towards control and your presumption of abuse for those that have control is frightening.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:08:56 AM

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Since the OP asked a (hopefully) retorical question, i shall answer the same way.

I would suggest that any sub/slave/master who asked this question seriously should 1. Turn off the tv/computer and leave the house and examine the real world.
2. Put down the porn books.
3. Find a very liberal friend with a baby and borrow it for 4 hours.
4. Find a urologist/gynaecologist and get neutered - because babies are noisy, loud, inconvenient, smelly, and not amenable to reason, others wants and desires, or sexual needs.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:11:31 AM

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^ lmao

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:15:52 AM

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Is this the same master you were being collared to in this thread
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2975044/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2975044
and have you actually met him yet?

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:22:02 AM

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If there is offspring, well then, I suppose both "parents" have the responsibility to take care of it.

I don't suppose, I know. Every state in the US requires both parents to support a child. I absolutely believe that both parents have total responsibility to care for any children they produce.

If you have sex with a person of the opposite sex, no matter what birth control you are using, then you should realize that you are committing to at least 18 years of supporting any child that may result. Because accidents happen, and unless you actually saw their reproductive organs being removed, you simply don't know whether they really have their tubes tied or a vasectomy or are on the pill or whatever.

If a sub or slave is in the position where their dominant wants them to have sex with other men, and that rocks the sub/slaves boat, go for it. If your dominant wants you to have one or more children, however, you need to step outside of your kink and consider the obligation you are taking on, and whether you are willing to shoulder the obligation for another human being for 18 years.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:31:21 AM

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You mean the "I have a full understanding of what he will require of me in my new life as his slave" thread?

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Is this the same master you were being collared to in this thread
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2975044/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2975044
and have you actually met him yet?

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:39:42 AM

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RS - please stop using her own words against her! Thats just not nice - and you are nice .... aren't you?

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:41:55 AM

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RS - please stop using her own words against her! Thats just not nice - and you are nice .... aren't you?

You people are MEAN!

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:45:25 AM

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:46:31 AM

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Cropping to get to just the point I want to address:

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
The OP is in her 40s, so the risk of having a child that is disabled is increased. "Breeding" is not part of "play." Children are living human beings that should not be created to satisfy someone's whims.

Also your opinion of 40 year olds is antiquated considering modern medical screening techniques used for donors.

ResidentSadist, you are, I am sorry to say, completely wrong. Women who have children in our 40s need to have an open-eyed understanding of the risks.

Edit: Gah! Can't make the text table show up right. Trying again, next post.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:49:20 AM

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Why would he?

presumably he cant father his own kid. sort of surrogacy in a way. im guessing.

i would think it would put the slave in a difficult position if the relationship with the Master ended and the father of the child dissappeared or had signed away any rights to the effect that they were in any way responsible.

would it be the same as if she went to a sperm bank, where no liability is attached to the sperm donor.

if the donor is being asked to produce a kid and nothing else then he presumably has no obligation to give over personal information that is traceable, if asked to give over traceable information he would be entitled to assume that the whole thing could come back and bite him, chances are he would then refuse to take part.

so, all in all, a bit dodgy.

A legal father (one who has been found to be or is presumed to be by law) cannot sign away his "rights" (read obligations) to his child unless the mother is married and her husband is willing to adopt said child.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:54:12 AM

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Why women over 40 need to be very aware of their actual real-world risks.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:54:33 AM

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Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.

This has got to be the most ignorant shitstain of a post I've ever read anywhere. These so-called breeders, irresponsible, dispecable scum from the top of cess pool of the human gene pool should never be allowed to breed.

All I ever hear from you people is all about you and your relationship - all reference to the child being "offspring". That offspring is a HUMAN LIFE with HUMAN EMOTIONS and HUMAN FEELINGS. Give any thought to that you selfish fucks?

As an individual who has no children, and who has taken great pains to not have them until I and my partner are ready, I find the whole concept of "breeders" and "breeding parties" thoroughly putrid, detestable and can not believe that anyone would consider the irresponsible bringing of children into this world a kink.

I mean, if you wanna watch your sub/slave get logjammed by a bunch of dudes and creampied - got for it but man damn...that alone is enough to spread disease...but at least you can get the morning after pill or something. No need to bring children into this world unless there is a set plan FOR THE CHILD. Mr. Master must be prepared that the CHILD will come first BEFORE his needs. And it isn't just 18 years, it is a lifetime of love and devotion - family.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 7:56:21 AM

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Don't hold back.... tell us how you REALLY feel...:)

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 8:00:40 AM

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OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH.....tha ANTEATA, has to have his say!!! :)

Hi ya baby! Wanna breed?

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RE: breeding ? - 1/30/2010 8:00:55 AM

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Don't hold back.... tell us how you REALLY feel...:)

Jeff

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I am thinking there will not be any more Wallys or Beavers.

June

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