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breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:45:20 PM   
subtlebottomgirl


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Status: offline 		Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 

Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.
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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:47:18 PM   
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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:50:17 PM   
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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:50:37 PM   
camille65


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ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl

Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 

Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.


It would dissolve our relationship if he attempted to do any of the above. If it was just something he wanted very badly to do, it would damage the dynamic because that is an actual hard limit for me. Personally I find it a repugnant reason to bring a child into this world.

Sorry if that came through as harsh.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:50:39 PM   
sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl

Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 

Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.


Ugh. I hate that term, breeding a slave. If someone wants to have a child, both parties should agree. Forced breeding? Please. That is some bad version of BDSM plantation porno.

If there is offspring, well then, I suppose both "parents" have the responsibility to take care of it.


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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:52:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl

Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 



A master/owner has no absolute rights regarding another person. 



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Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?


In many states, including the one I live in, if the couple are married, the husband is legally the father no matter who the "sperm donor" is.  A paternity test showing otherwise has no legal bearing.


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How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?


Oh wait... are you asking about rights and responsibilities regarding the relationship that are unique to each relationship and therefore no sweeping generalization can be made, or are you talking about legal status?


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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 8:56:31 PM   
dreamerdreaming


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Status: offline 		The biological father can be held legally responsible for child support, once paternity is established. I don't know of anyplace in the US where that's not so, but it may not be so in every country.

Being a slave doesn't mean your brain fell out your ear. So, you can still use it. 

You still have the same legal rights as you did before, and you still have the right to be with someone whose needs and desires fit well with yours. 


ETA reading Califchick's post above: WTF? Ya learn something new every day. Califchick, can you please list the states that you know of, that are like yours? Thanks!

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:05:42 PM   
CalifChick


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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

The biological father can be held legally responsible for child support, once paternity is established. I don't know of anyplace in the US where that's not so, but it may not be so in every country.



It is not so in California.  The husband of a woman who becomes pregnant while they are married is legally the father, no matter who the biological father is.  He is the "presumed father".

Presumed Father
If any of the following are true, a man is presumed to be the father of a child, unless he or the mother proves otherwise to a court:
    he was married to the mother when the child was conceived or born, although some states do not consider a man to be a presumed father if the couple has separated, he attempted to marry the mother (even if the marriage was not valid) and the child was conceived or born during the "marriage."
    he married the mother after the birth and agreed either to have his name on the birth certificate or to support the child, or he welcomed the child into his home and openly held the child out as his own.

In some states, the presumption of paternity is considered conclusive, which means it cannot be disproven, even with contradictory blood tests. In Michael H. v. Gerald D., 491 U.S. 110 (1989), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld California's presumed father statute as a rational method of protecting the integrity of the family against challenges based on the due process rights of the father and the child. A presumed father must pay child support.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:09:11 PM   
CalifChick


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Status: offline 		dreamer... when I was divorcing, I used to participate on a divorce/custody forum.  One of the things that I checked out thoroughly, was if I were to become pregnant while still married to my husband (even though I had left him), what were the legal ramifications.  I became pregnant with my first child while taking the pill AND using a condom, and became pregnant with my second after my husband had been declared infertile... so my only safe bet was complete abstinence.  Which I did for quite some time after I left him.

Cali

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:20:16 PM   
Scheherazade67


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Status: offline 		Please.  You can't be serious. 

Thankfully, for us, there aren't too many laws that govern human behavior or we'd be in trouble to begin with.  Two consenting adults can do just about anything they want - especially if they don't get caught by their neighbors. 

But my personal feelings are that what you suggest is a ridiculous abomination.  Being objectified is a wonderful thing.  Being 'bred' would not be a wonderful thing about it.  It'd be crossing the line.  For those who it isn't crossing the line, a law would be a handy thing although I am sure too much to hope for. 

Hopefully you are just joking - or fantasizing. 

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:20:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl
Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?


Do the child a favor.  Give it up for adoption so the child can have intelligent thinking humans for parents. 

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:21:11 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		One of the first things I discussed with Him when I was getting to know Him was about children. I can't/won't have anymore. If he would have said he absolutely wanted them in his future I would not have bothered going any further with him.

This is one of those things you REALLY should discuss with someone in the getting to know each other stage. This is one of those things that no longer involves just two adults and getting their fetishes on! You're now bringing another life into the situation and well..I'll leave my judgements to myself on such an issue.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:26:11 PM   
LadyAngelika


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quote:

ORIGINAL: subtlebottomgirl

Does a  Master or Owner of  a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ?   with other men  ? 

Where does the  responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.


See this is when I think people take this too far...

People breed animals, not humans. And even then I have issues with the animal part.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:35:42 PM   
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- LA


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Very nice legs.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:36:38 PM   
LadyAngelika


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- LA


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Very nice legs.

HWK



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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:38:05 PM   
osf


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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:40:09 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: osf

if what she says is true can't we just boil it down to seriously thinking about walking?


Baby steps.. some people need to seriously think about reality!

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:41:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

The biological father can be held legally responsible for child support, once paternity is established. I don't know of anyplace in the US where that's not so, but it may not be so in every country.

Being a slave doesn't mean your brain fell out your ear. So, you can still use it. 

You still have the same legal rights as you did before, and you still have the right to be with someone whose needs and desires fit well with yours. 


ETA reading Califchick's post above: WTF? Ya learn something new every day. Califchick, can you please list the states that you know of, that are like yours? Thanks!


I believe more states than not have that law. It is in the states' best interest that every child have a father. This is ONE way of ensuring that.


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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:44:43 PM   
osf


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hawkwindblues

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- LA


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Very nice legs.

HWK






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- LA



by the time she takes baby steps she could be pregnant

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RE: breeding ? - 1/29/2010 9:46:52 PM   
LadyAngelika


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by the time she takes baby steps she could be pregnant



See, this is where I think that in a perfect world, people would need a license to have kids. Seriously.

ETA: The OP, not HWK... HWK is cool.

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