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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 1:19:57 PM   
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yes that is typical of you fuckheads: oh! I see one example, therefore everything is what I say it is and it is all cases.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 1:23:30 PM   
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2 days ago, 49 of 50 states had snow on the ground. Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100212-vancouver-2010-warmest-winter-olympics/

Vancouver 2010 to Be Warmest Winter Olympics Yet


servant, If it ain't happening here than it possibly cannot exist, right?

Rich, why are liberals so condescending? You guys make it almost impossible to treat you with respect.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 1:44:36 PM   
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If I'm not mistaken, Europe and Asia are also seeing record cold and record snow. Maybe it ain't happening over there either ?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:02:42 PM   
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If I'm not mistaken, Europe and Asia are also seeing record cold and record snow. Maybe it ain't happening over there either ?


Who with an ounce of common sense would place any weight on what you may or may not be mistaken about?

It was cold last week. Here comes the ice age!!!

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:05:39 PM   
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If I'm not mistaken, Europe and Asia are also seeing record cold and record snow. Maybe it ain't happening over there either ?


Who with an ounce of common sense would place any weight on what you may or may not be mistaken about?

It was cold last week. Here comes the ice age!!!

That is part of the problem that many skeptics have with the global warming argument... many of the scientists now claiming that we are going to melt, were claiming the exact opposite in the '70s.

C'est la vie, shit changes, new data comes about, somebody always bucks the system...

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:16:36 PM   
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Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed journal articles I can find on global warming?

Acceleration of global warmingdue to carbon-cycle feedbacksin a coupled climatemodel
Model estimates of CO2 emissions from soil in response to global warming
Biological consequences of global warming: is the signal already apparent?
The temperature dependence of soil organic matter decomposition, and the effect of global warming on soil organic C storage

Well, golly, there's a whole bunch of them. And they all pretty much seem to be saying the same things. Hmmmm... Those darn scientists are just trying to fool people!

Remember, CO2 isn't the ONLY greenhouse gas. There are many more with greater warming potential than CO2.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:18:24 PM   
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Please... you are starting to sound like a spiritualist, spouting things that could or could not happen, making predictions that you can claim anyway it falls... This whole thing is falling apart. Nothing about the climate change that is, currently cooling btw, is man's fault. It will be hot, it will be cold, it will be hot again, it will be cold again.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:29:50 PM   
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Please... you are starting to sound like a spiritualist, spouting things that could or could not happen, making predictions that you can claim anyway it falls... This whole thing is falling apart. Nothing about the climate change that is, currently cooling btw, is man's fault. It will be hot, it will be cold, it will be hot again, it will be cold again.


This is because Fat's has proclaimed it to be....Damn the scientists!!!! They hate God and Republicans.

We could never have an affect on our weather....Just as we could never have an affect on our oceans.

Fats knows. He is a republican and scientists are out to get him and his little dog too.

Why should Democrats not be condescending towards Republicans? I forget?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:31:42 PM   
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2 days ago, 49 of 50 states had snow on the ground. Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100212-vancouver-2010-warmest-winter-olympics/

Vancouver 2010 to Be Warmest Winter Olympics Yet


servant, If it ain't happening here than it possibly cannot exist, right?

Rich, why are liberals so condescending? You guys make it almost impossible to treat you with respect.



Since it was in the mid-sixities when Calgary `88 ended and so warm in fact that the two man bobsled event was stopped after two runs and medals awarded. So warm that Speed-Skating confirmed their decision that as soon as it was possible, they would forever move all world championship and Olympic events indoors, so warm that blowing sand caused havoc with the slalom, I think I'll wait until the end of this one too make that claim.

Oh... and the reason???

Why El NiƱo of course, a phenomenon that goes back over 10,000 years.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:48:02 PM   
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EPA on GW impact on oceans.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:48:52 PM   
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It wasn't such a hot decade for me, I have had better decades, as decades go.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:51:28 PM   
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It wasn't such a hot decade for me, I have had better decades, as decades go.


Poor baby! I'll kiss it and make it better.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:52:21 PM   
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you better ask your old man first, kid.



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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:52:44 PM   
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EPA on GW impact on oceans.



That report is based on a bunch of reports that have been recanted lately... but it's all good.

Perhaps you should have included a link to the Mann projections as well?

I am willing to do my part though to help the EPA meet its goals on CO2 reduction... however, it is not yet legal to do by the means I have in mind.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:55:04 PM   
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you better ask your old man first, kid.


What old man?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:56:15 PM   
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did I misread a profile?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 2:58:04 PM   
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Maybe so. Maybe I need to look at it, maybe I wrote something down wrong. Hmmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser. No, I didn't. Owned and operated by haute couture, just a slave to fashion, that's all.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:07:54 PM   
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Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed journal articles I can find on global warming?



Gee, I wonder how many articles that disagreed with global warming were denied peer review because of the self-admitted campaign to limit them? Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed articles used trumped up data? Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed articles included statements that weren't even supported by anything more than anecdotal evidence?

Hint: the peer review process in AGW doesnt exist.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:12:17 PM   
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Maybe so. Maybe I need to look at it, maybe I wrote something down wrong. Hmmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser. No, I didn't. Owned and operated by haute couture, just a slave to fashion, that's all.


Is that poo on the blender beaters you are licking

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:15:00 PM   
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That is part of the problem that many skeptics have with the global warming argument... many of the scientists now claiming that we are going to melt, were claiming the exact opposite in the '70s.

C'est la vie, shit changes, new data comes about, somebody always bucks the system...


Ah, Tired Denialist Red Herring #214. Simply false. The few scientists who were looking at climate back in the 1970s were already starting to wonder about a newly-identified thing called a "greenhouse effect". It didn't seem particularly urgent back then, because the long-term Industrial Age upward trend in temperature was still being masked by aerosols (particulates, which have a solar-blocking effect) put out during the post-war industrial boom, before the needed clean air laws came into play in the 70s. (That's why the temperature didn't pick up till the 80s. One could argue that those Clean Air laws worked to spur on warming, but they were needed for basic public health reasons.)

The famous magazine covers ("Coming Ice Age!") that denialists like to wave about were all popular media fluff pieces (Newsweek, Popular Science, etc.). Sadly, most of the denial crowd doesn't know the difference between peer-reviewed science and Newsweek. Nor do they probably care to - especially if they can find a misleading use for conflating the two, and stalling public option further on this.

Stay tuned for all the other favorites in the never ending cavalcade of Red Herrings. Congressman Jim De Mint building an igloo on the Capitol steps to mock the very scientists who have been saying that we'll get more precipitation with warming, because it speeds up the water cycle. All the Greatest Hits of the Head-in-Sand crowd, on their way to your town today! And Exxon is laughing its ass off at us, all the way to the bank. They never dreamed they'd be able to pull this off for this long. Cue the P.T. Barnum line.

What a sad, uneducated country this is. The rest of the world is waiting for us to pull our head out of our collective ass, and all we get is this tired old recycled see-through crap.

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