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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:15:26 PM

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Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed journal articles I can find on global warming?

Gee, I wonder how many articles that disagreed with global warming were denied peer review because of the self-admitted campaign to limit them? Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed articles used trumped up data? Gee, I wonder how many peer reviewed articles included statements that weren't even supported by anything more than anecdotal evidence?

Hint: the peer review process in AGW doesnt exist.

Instead of wondering and continuing on with your meaningless yammerings, why don't you try and find out? Or find out why Bush appointed all of his cronies to head up the agencies to thwart any meaningful scientific information to make it through.

Get back when you find something of relevance.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:28:33 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, Europe and Asia are also seeing record cold and record snow. Maybe it ain't happening over there either ?

If you truly want to know, read this excellent piece from the Washington Post. It's full of excellent figures called temperature anomaly maps. They show the deviations from normal of different areas on the earth. Turns out that while North America, Northern Europe, Russia and China were in the deep freeze, Alaska, the Arctic, the world's oceans, Africa, the middle east, Australia and other parts of Asia were way above normal for this time of year (only South America was around normal). If you search the comments below the piece for SteveT (another WaPo weather writer), you'll see that the whole earth was above normal for both December and early January. It's not surprising that the UAH satellite data set registered a record temp for January, given the bottom line of those anomaly maps, and that it's warmed up since then.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2010/01/cold_weather_in_a_hot_climate_1.html#more

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:40:38 PM

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Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..

People in DC are educated enough to know that climatologists have been warning us for years that with global warming will come more frequent storms and flooding (i.e., precipitation events). THAT, btw, is one of the reasons the term "climate change" is now used by scientists. It's not just a matter of rising temperatures. You evaporate more water, it's got to come down somewhere.

The really sad thing is that while most 8-year-olds intuitively grasp a distinction between temperature and precipitation, conservative politicians and denialists seem to be having trouble grasping this one lately.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:47:09 PM

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Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..

People in DC are educated enough to know that climatologists have been warning us for years that with global warming will come more frequent storms and flooding (i.e., precipitation events). THAT, btw, is one of the reasons the term "climate change" is now used by scientists. It's not just a matter of rising temperatures. You evaporate more water, it's got to come down somewhere.

The really sad thing is that while most 8-year-olds intuitively grasp a distinction between temperature and precipitation, conservative politicians and denialists seem to be having trouble grasping this one lately.

Climate change is now used by AGW zealots because their models didnt do shit to predict anything accurately, so they covered their asses. I could have predicted in high school that there are going to periods where there are more frequent storms or less frequent storms over the next 40 years. Its called nature.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:49:19 PM

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Hope I'm not spamming here, but I have to add this. People may not have seen it, regarding my "UAH" reference above. Our atmosphere just measured its hottest January on record since satellite measurement began in 1979. (Sorry Rush Limbaugh, it looks like your career as a climatologist wannabe ended before it began.)

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/05/hottest-january-in-uah-satellite-record-roy-spencer-global-warming/

Note that we set that record while solar radiation is at its deepest minimum in a century. We are in for one hell of a decade as the sun comes back up out the trough of its 10-year cycle.

For those who prefer a "skeptic" blog posting of the same temperature story - with much less information, as they are still trying to figure out how to spin this - here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/04/january-uah-global-temperature-warmest/

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:58:45 PM

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Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..

People in DC are educated enough to know that climatologists have been warning us for years that with global warming will come more frequent storms and flooding (i.e., precipitation events). THAT, btw, is one of the reasons the term "climate change" is now used by scientists. It's not just a matter of rising temperatures. You evaporate more water, it's got to come down somewhere.

The really sad thing is that while most 8-year-olds intuitively grasp a distinction between temperature and precipitation, conservative politicians and denialists seem to be having trouble grasping this one lately.

Uh just curious, for those of us that aren't that well adjusted. When water evaporates does it provide a cooling or warming effect?

Oh and should any credibility be given to studies and reports by John Christy (one of the former lead authors of the IPCC)?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 3:59:26 PM

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Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..

People in DC are educated enough to know that climatologists have been warning us for years that with global warming will come more frequent storms and flooding (i.e., precipitation events). THAT, btw, is one of the reasons the term "climate change" is now used by scientists. It's not just a matter of rising temperatures. You evaporate more water, it's got to come down somewhere.

The really sad thing is that while most 8-year-olds intuitively grasp a distinction between temperature and precipitation, conservative politicians and denialists seem to be having trouble grasping this one lately.

Climate change is now used by AGW zealots because their models didnt do shit to predict anything accurately, so they covered their asses. I could have predicted in high school that there are going to periods where there are more frequent storms or less frequent storms over the next 40 years. Its called nature.

No. Climatologists always said AGW would result in more chaotic weather in the short term. That means some places will get more winter weather including snow.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 4:11:18 PM

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Anyone here ever hear of el nino ? It is a warming of the Pacific Ocean and is responsible for more precipitation in some parts of the world, and colder temps in other parts. We are in the midst of el nino right now. Vancouver is warmer this year because of it. It is not man made and has always been a part of world wide climate change. It also has nothing to do with global warming.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 4:45:50 PM

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Go ask the folks still buried in DC and Philly what they think of global warming. Be careful though, you might get hit in the head with a snow shovel..

People in DC are educated enough to know that climatologists have been warning us for years that with global warming will come more frequent storms and flooding (i.e., precipitation events). THAT, btw, is one of the reasons the term "climate change" is now used by scientists. It's not just a matter of rising temperatures. You evaporate more water, it's got to come down somewhere.

The really sad thing is that while most 8-year-olds intuitively grasp a distinction between temperature and precipitation, conservative politicians and denialists seem to be having trouble grasping this one lately.

Climate change is now used by AGW zealots because their models didnt do shit to predict anything accurately, so they covered their asses. I could have predicted in high school that there are going to periods where there are more frequent storms or less frequent storms over the next 40 years. Its called nature.

Wilbur you could't even predict, within a forty eight hour period, when you are going to have your next bowel movement.

Why is it so important that the scientists are wrong? Are you still pissed about the discovery of dinosaurs?

If it wasn't for Al Gore trumpeting the message. You would give two shits about global warming.

In fact, you would now be driving a Prius. Unfortunately as you have shown in the "Obama Phone Thread," you don't have the capacity to understand what you read or see. Therefore, you would have not heard or understood anything about the Prius recall and your car's brakes will fail and you will be killed as you drive off the end of a receding glacier.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 4:49:09 PM

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Anyone here ever hear of el nino ? It is a warming of the Pacific Ocean and is responsible for more precipitation in some parts of the world, and colder temps in other parts. We are in the midst of el nino right now. Vancouver is warmer this year because of it. It is not man made and has always been a part of world wide climate change. It also has nothing to do with global warming.

Wow, servant, I wonder if the scientist have ever heard of el nino? Have you ever heard of the jet stream? It's not what comes out of the back of your plane before take off.

Why ARE LIBERALS SO CONDESCENDING OF CONSERVATIVES?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 7:56:03 PM

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Anyone here ever hear of el nino ? It is a warming of the Pacific Ocean and is responsible for more precipitation in some parts of the world, and colder temps in other parts. We are in the midst of el nino right now. Vancouver is warmer this year because of it. It is not man made and has always been a part of world wide climate change. It also has nothing to do with global warming.

Wow, servant, I wonder if the scientist have ever heard of el nino? Have you ever heard of the jet stream? It's not what comes out of the back of your plane before take off.

Why ARE LIBERALS SO CONDESCENDING OF CONSERVATIVES?

You have cmail.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 8:04:28 PM

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Anyone here ever hear of el nino ? It is a warming of the Pacific Ocean and is responsible for more precipitation in some parts of the world, and colder temps in other parts. We are in the midst of el nino right now. Vancouver is warmer this year because of it. It is not man made and has always been a part of world wide climate change. It also has nothing to do with global warming.

Wow, servant, I wonder if the scientist have ever heard of el nino? Have you ever heard of the jet stream? It's not what comes out of the back of your plane before take off.

Why ARE LIBERALS SO CONDESCENDING OF CONSERVATIVES?

I think he's losing it frankly, the name calling, the spiritualism, the hand wringing over being born white and now an ice age instead of the boon to third world agriculture real global warming would bring. Buck up guy...I am sure the be recycling another album from the bones of Tupac soon.

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/15/2010 10:54:16 PM

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This and last winter have been the coldest in 12 years here in Myrtle Beach, S.C.
It's been down to the "teens" every night for the last month! We had *SNOW* here the other day!!! *SNOW!!!*
Global warming my ass!

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 5:42:05 AM

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Ah, but popeye - you know as well as I do that the global warming faithful will give you the "thats just local weather" sermon, then tell you with a straight face that the heat wave in Vancouver PROVES global warming...

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 7:44:21 AM

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Ah, but popeye - you know as well as I do that the global warming faithful will give you the "thats just local weather" sermon, then tell you with a straight face that the heat wave in Vancouver PROVES global warming...

Oh yeah, SNOW and Palm trees!
Your balls itchy? "Global warming!" Your cat couching up hairballs, "Global warming!"

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 8:31:01 AM

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you better ask your old man first, kid.

Is that any way to respond to an offer of a blow job?

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 8:33:58 AM

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~ Fast 'Can I get an AMEN!' ~

Dinosaurs didn't walk with humans, periodic global warming, and cooling, is a function of "natural factors"; the silliness of religious fundamentalism reflected in both. Rationalized arguments using self fulfilling prophecy as examples of 'science', weakening not only science, but the good fundamental arguments like conservation and recycling. The similarity to the fundamental message of all religions "love one another" lost in blind, selfish, profit driven advocacy by the leaders is unmistakable.

Phil Jones is the director of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, a key "consensus" institution that has recently been caught up in an e-mail scandal revealing a mind-set of global-warming advocacy rather than dispassionate inquiry.

Jones discussed the highly contentious "medieval warming period." If global temperatures were warmer than today back in 800-1300 AD -- about 1,000 years before Henry Ford's assembly lines began spitting out cars -- it suggests that natural factors have a large hand in climate change, a concession that climate alarmists are loath to make

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 8:40:41 AM

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Why is denial of global warming so strongly tied into the conservative agenda? That's what *I* want to know!

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 8:43:24 AM

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Why is denial of global warming so strongly tied into the conservative agenda? That's what *I* want to know!

Why is the denial of fact based science so strongly tied into the liberal agenda?

My theory is that both were the product of an educational indoctrination where most independent thought and reason is "left behind".

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RE: "Hottest Decade on Record" - 2/16/2010 8:53:05 AM

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I also think that the statistical data is either not for a long enough period of time-or skewed to meet particular agendas-rendering it all rather moot.

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