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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:37:05 PM   
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you are a dangerous person who cannot be allowed to post your opinions unchallenged. ...
The Nazis were stopping immorality and abuse in their minds too... and you would seek nothing more than to stop people from being free... that makes you a scary fucking dude....


And all ths based on the premise that I personally will lead a movement that will have casual bdsm banned world-wide.




Yes

Edited to add... people who are as zealous as you are scary to me, they start movements, and they tap into fear and ignorance in order to do so... they must all be taken seriously


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 6:37:28 PM   
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So freedom means not being allowed to believe in anything.

No you can believe in what you wish to believe in, however not give you the right to infrige upon others freedoms. You have your Freedom of personal choice and other people have their freedom of personal choices. You are not respecting other people's freedoms in calling them abusers and abusive and that they are immature, also making it a point to stress that your way is the right way for everybody.


And you are not respecting my freedom by telling me what I must say and what I cannot say.


It's called STOP BOSSING other people around, and calling them names because they wish to live how they want to, in a manner that does not threaten your own rights and freedoms.


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:39:23 PM   
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So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others.

And that is not totalitarian of you.

Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.


You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:41:05 PM   
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god, bob.. you are such a twat.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:41:13 PM   
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So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others.

And that is not totalitarian of you.

It's only condemn those that have condemning views. Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms. You are being condemned for condeming other people basically.


You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?


You're the Nazi that is persecuting people and calling them abusers and abusive.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:41:40 PM   
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And all ths based on the premise that I personally will lead a movement that will have casual bdsm banned world-wide.

Yes


I had no idea you thought so highly of my abilities.

~smile~

Thank you.


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:41:41 PM   
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You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?


I will reiterate what I said and bold it

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You made my Whip's point... you are a dangerous person who cannot be allowed to post your opinions unchallenged. You are allowed to them, no one is stopping you from posting them, but leave them unchallenged, NEVER.


No one is attempting to stop you from voicing your beliefs... but sure as hell aren't going to sit by idly while you do it either...


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 6:41:45 PM   
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So freedom means not being allowed to believe in anything.

No you can believe in what you wish to believe in, however not give you the right to infrige upon others freedoms. You have your Freedom of personal choice and other people have their freedom of personal choices. You are not respecting other people's freedoms in calling them abusers and abusive and that they are immature, also making it a point to stress that your way is the right way for everybody.


And you are not respecting my freedom by telling me what I must say and what I cannot say.


You are more than welcome to say/post what you will.  And that is why I have suggested (more than once) that we all just leave you to your internal mutterings and construction of a huge, unreadable manifesto (I think it was called by someone here.)

The Lifestyle Manifesto by Boob BLoved

DAMN!  Before the Internet, publishers had a say in what was printed in dead tree versions.  Of course, freedom of press allowed private publishing.

BLoved;  Please try to have your work(s) published - they will reach a much larger audience that the few folks here.  I'm serious..... actually, I'm guessing that you havae tried that and have been rejected.  And my next guess is that your reaction was "What happened to Freedom of the Press?"


ETA color and size, because that seems to indicate to Boob that I have to for my own enjoyment and that it distracts ME from what I'm writing.....  The man IS in need of mental health professionals.

MODS!  Can we have him banned for a violation of TOS, namely "expressing remarks with intent to cause riots"?

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 6:43:32 PM   
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The Lifestyle Manifesto by Boob BLoved



The Unibomber had a huge manifesto too...

People who write voluminous materials on a topic such as this usually have more than a "casual" (pun intended) interest in the topic at hand...


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:44:11 PM   
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So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others.

And that is not totalitarian of you.

Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.


You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?


You're the Nazi that is persecuting people and calling them abusers and abusive.


I am exercising my freedom to express my beliefs.

You are telling me I cannot express an opinion about casual bdsm unless it agrees with yours.

Which of us is demanding totalitarian powers?

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:46:25 PM   
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So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others.

And that is not totalitarian of you.

Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.


You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?


Seriously? Nazi?

That's the most basic "OMG YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU SUCK!" response ever. That's "Insulting People Illogically For Beginers".

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:48:33 PM   
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I am exercising my freedom to express my beliefs.

You are telling me I cannot express an opinion about casual bdsm unless it agrees with yours.

Which of us is demanding totalitarian powers?


Another illogical line of shit from you...

No one told you that you cannot express your opinion... what we are saying is that  you cross the line when you go from expression to condemnation, to accusation, to advocating suppression of other people's freedoms...

Now I know you will not understand this... either because you refuse to or you are too dense to, or because you suffer from some sort of mental condition on par with David Koresh or Jim Jones or Pat Robertson


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:48:47 PM   
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You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?


I will reiterate what I said and bold it

quote:

You made my Whip's point... you are a dangerous person who cannot be allowed to post your opinions unchallenged. You are allowed to them, no one is stopping you from posting them, but leave them unchallenged, NEVER.


No one is attempting to stop you from voicing your beliefs... but sure as hell aren't going to sit by idly while you do it either...



Oh come now. You must have seen all the posts about "Die Thread Die" etc.

I've been banned from four sites thanks to those who share your sentiments when it comes to "freedom".

Odd form of "freedom" that has to rely on censorship.

I've no objection to rigourous debate of the issues, but let's face it, that isn't what any of you have been doing.

You are trying to paint me as the next Hitler.

In other words, anyone who doesn't agree with you regarding casual bdsm is a Nazi.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:49:53 PM   
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I am exercising my freedom to express my beliefs.

You are telling me I cannot express an opinion about casual bdsm unless it agrees with yours.

Which of us is demanding totalitarian powers?


This classic yet age old paradox of spining things around. Spin Jobs, Spin Jobs...

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:49:53 PM   
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So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others.

And that is not totalitarian of you.

Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.


You have just condemned the freedom of expression.

How does it feel to be a Nazi?


Seriously? Nazi?

That's the most basic "OMG YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU SUCK!" response ever. That's "Insulting People Illogically For Beginers".


To be fair to Bob, and I am always fair, I compared him to Nazis first... but I had good reason... he wants to make people who do casual BDSM into criminals


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:50:48 PM   
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No one is attempting to stop you from voicing your beliefs...


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MODS! Can we have him banned for a violation of TOS, namely "expressing remarks with intent to cause riots"?



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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:51:57 PM   
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he wants to make people who do casual BDSM into criminals


I've said no such thing.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 6:52:02 PM   
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The Lifestyle Manifesto by Boob BLoved



The Unibomber had a huge manifesto too...

People who write voluminous materials on a topic such as this usually have more than a "casual" (pun intended) interest in the topic at hand...



AWwww, you beat me to it.  I simply couldn't remember the nic.  AND, let's not forget that the Unibomber was a recluse - out in the woods someplace.

Actually I was thinking "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" for examples

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:52:20 PM   
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We are talking about a pathetic individual who lives as a hermit out in the middle of nowhere,and has nothing better to do than seek validation for his fantasy life in internet kink forums.

Beavis and Butthead are godlike by comparison.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:53:13 PM   
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he wants to make people who do casual BDSM into criminals


I've said no such thing.


Nah. You just want to make everyone think we are abusive parriahs so that we are cast out and you get all the tasty treats for yourself. And frankly, since abuse is illegal, accusing us of being abusive is saying we are criminals.

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