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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:53:21 PM   
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You are trying to paint me as the next Hitler.


Because it threatens to harm Innocent people that are not truely abusing or causing anybody any true or real harm.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:54:02 PM   
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I am exercising my freedom to express my beliefs.

You are telling me I cannot express an opinion about casual bdsm unless it agrees with yours.

Which of us is demanding totalitarian powers?


Another illogical line of shit from you...

No one told you that you cannot express your opinion...


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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.



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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:55:34 PM   
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Oh come now. You must have seen all the posts about "Die Thread Die" etc.


That is because this thread is the trainwreck of trainwrecks

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I've been banned from four sites thanks to those who share your sentiments when it comes to "freedom".


Did any of them advocate that you be stopped from living your life the way you like, or did they just not want to give you a platform to advocate BDSM casual player witch hunts?


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Odd form of "freedom" that has to rely on censorship.


The first admendment gives you the right to say stuff, it also gives other private citizens the right to ignore it... unless the government shuts you down, you really do not have a bitch. And believe it or not, if the government took away your rights I would be the first one to line up behind you to give you the right to say what you wanted... would you do the same for me?

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I've no objection to rigourous debate of the issues, but let's face it, that isn't what any of you have been doing.


You are seriously in denial over your debate skills


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You are trying to paint me as the next Hitler.


If you could illegalize casual BDSM, would you?

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In other words, anyone who doesn't agree with you regarding casual bdsm is a Nazi.

Anyone who would write entire books on the dangers of it, call people who do it abusers, yes, I think they are dangerous and one step away from rounding people up at dungeons and charging them with crimes like battery and assault... we have fought too long for sexual freedom to be set back now.






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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:56:22 PM   
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You are trying to paint me as the next Hitler.

Because it threatens to harm Innocent people that are not truely abusing or causing anybody any true or real harm.


That is your opinion.

My opinion is quite different.

You have a right to express your opinion. I have a right to express mine.

I do not pursue you, assasinating your character because your opinion differs from mine.

You do.

I respect your right to express an opinion that differs from mine.

You don't.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 6:57:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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I am exercising my freedom to express my beliefs.

You are telling me I cannot express an opinion about casual bdsm unless it agrees with yours.

Which of us is demanding totalitarian powers?


Another illogical line of shit from you...

No one told you that you cannot express your opinion...


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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.




He didn't say that he was going to stop you, call the cops on you, or in any way infringe upon your rights by arresting you... stop being a drama king


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:07:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Oh come now. You must have seen all the posts about "Die Thread Die" etc.


That is because this thread is the trainwreck of trainwrecks


Actually it illustrates very clearly the degree of maturity that advocates casual bdsm, and the degree of maturity that opposes casual bdsm.

I've no complaints.

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I've been banned from four sites thanks to those who share your sentiments when it comes to "freedom".


Did any of them advocate that you be stopped from living your life the way you like, or did they just not want to give you a platform to advocate BDSM casual player witch hunts?


One need only read this thread to see why I was banned.

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I've no objection to rigourous debate of the issues, but let's face it, that isn't what any of you have been doing.


You are seriously in denial over your debate skills


I have done the best I could with what little was offered.

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quote:

You are trying to paint me as the next Hitler.


If you could illegalize casual BDSM, would you?


No.

That would only force it underground, and there is enough of a problem with that as it is.

I believe in education. Show people there is a better way and nine times out of ten they'll take it.

If casual bdsm really is a better way, it has nothing to fear from a different point of view.

If it is abusive, it has no right to survive the competition.

I am willing to put all points of view on the table and let the readers decide.

You are not.

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In other words, anyone who doesn't agree with you regarding casual bdsm is a Nazi.


Anyone who would write entire books on the dangers of it, call people who do it abusers, yes, I think they are dangerous and one step away from rounding people up at dungeons and charging them with crimes like battery and assault... we have fought too long for sexual freedom to be set back now.


And you don't think that is the least bit paranoid?

Burned any good books lately? Ones you thought contained a dangerous message better supressed than discussed?


< Message edited by BLoved -- 2/19/2010 7:09:14 PM >


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:09:21 PM   
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I do not pursue you, assasinating your character because your opinion differs from mine.

You do.



You're trying to assassinate his character right there.

< Message edited by Raiikun -- 2/19/2010 7:10:04 PM >

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:11:45 PM   
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Actually it illustrates very clearly the degree of maturity that advocates casual bdsm, and the degree of maturity that opposes casual bdsm.


How dismissive of you to say that those people represent the everyone, even if the accusations of immaturity ring true, which they don't.... I think they know  a dead horse when they see one...

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I've no complaints.


Dude, that is all you ever do

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no.

That would only force it underground, and there is enough of a problem with that as it is.

I believe in education. Show people there is a better way and nine times out of ten they'll take it.

If casual bdsm really is a better way, it has nothing to fear from a different point of view.

If it is abusive, it has no right to survive the competition.

I am willing to put all points of view on the table and let the readers decide.

You are not.


Then I would take back my accusations of calling you a Nazi

But you still are riding on a slippery slope

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And you don't think that is the least bit paranoid?

Burned any good books lately? Ones you thought contained a dangerous message better supressed that discussed?



I notice you skipped this portion.. I suppose because it did not enhance the way you want to paint me, but I will repost it again in hopes you might answer my question

The first admendment gives you the right to say stuff, it also gives other private citizens the right to ignore it... unless the government shuts you down, you really do not have a bitch. And believe it or not, if the government took away your rights I would be the first one to line up behind you to give you the right to say what you wanted... would you do the same for me?

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 2/19/2010 7:12:23 PM >


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:13:44 PM   
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Bobby,

You can onto the boards engaging in MASS character assination, yet you have the ordasity to proclaim that you are the one being assinated?

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:14:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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ORIGINAL: BLoved
quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
quote:

I am exercising my freedom to express my beliefs.

You are telling me I cannot express an opinion about casual bdsm unless it agrees with yours.

Which of us is demanding totalitarian powers?


Another illogical line of shit from you...

No one told you that you cannot express your opinion...


quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms.




He didn't say that he was going to stop you, call the cops on you, or in any way infringe upon your rights by arresting you...



Neither have I, but you want people to think of me as Hitler.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:15:10 PM   
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How dismissive of you to say that those people represent the everyone, even if the accusations of immaturity ring true, which they don't.... I think they know  a dead horse when they see one...


Yep.  Seems to be a common theme with him too.  He claims he's not into character assassination, but it doesn't stop him from trying to generalize everyone that opposes his viewpoint and aiming a character assassination at the entire group.  I've seen some hypocrites in my time, but it's not very often I see someone who's entire presence on a forum seems to be based upon hypocrisy like Bob's is.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:15:17 PM   
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Yanno,this just get funnier all the time-you guys actually take Bob SERIOUSLY?


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Bobby,

You can onto the boards engaging in MASS character assination, yet you have the ordasity to proclaim that you are the one being assinated?


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:16:34 PM   
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Neither have I, but you want people to think of me as Hitler.


Then how about you find the post where she equates you to Hitler...or cut it out with the strawmen and appeals to emotion.

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:16:35 PM   
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Gotta love the new thread name! lol

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:17:16 PM   
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I am watching Good Luck Chuck, on tv, and there was a line in the movie that went:

Chuck:  "What is sex without love?"
Chuck's Friend:  SEX!  It's still SEX!

I couldn't help laughing, because it brought this thread to mind.  So of course I had to sign on and post this.




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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:18:24 PM   
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One need only read this thread to see why I was banned.



Quoted for truth...

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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:21:51 PM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

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Neither have I, but you want people to think of me as Hitler.


Then how about you find the post where she equates you to Hitler...or cut it out with the strawmen and appeals to emotion.


I did not equate him to Hitler on purpose, BTW


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:23:35 PM   
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no.

That would only force it underground, and there is enough of a problem with that as it is.

I believe in education. Show people there is a better way and nine times out of ten they'll take it.

If casual bdsm really is a better way, it has nothing to fear from a different point of view.

If it is abusive, it has no right to survive the competition.

I am willing to put all points of view on the table and let the readers decide.

You are not.


Then I would take back my accusations of calling you a Nazi

But you still are riding on a slippery slope


A minute ago you were publicly comparing me with Hitler and you accuse me of riding a slippery slope?

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And you don't think that is the least bit paranoid?

Burned any good books lately? Ones you thought contained a dangerous message better supressed that discussed?


I notice you skipped this portion.. I suppose because it did not enhance the way you want to paint me, but I will repost it again in hopes you might answer my question

The first admendment gives you the right to say stuff, it also gives other private citizens the right to ignore it... unless the government shuts you down, you really do not have a bitch. And believe it or not, if the government took away your rights I would be the first one to line up behind you to give you the right to say what you wanted... would you do the same for me?


I addressed this a while ago.

I am a writer. I do not believe in censorship.

I've issued no complaints to the mods, nowhere in this thread have I told anyone what they can and cannot say.

Throughout, all I have asserted is a right to express my beliefs, and this I have done and continue to do.

Anyone can verify by reading the thread, and in doing so will see how those who responded chose to behave.

Nothing hidden here.


< Message edited by BLoved -- 2/19/2010 7:24:32 PM >


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RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards - 2/19/2010 7:25:41 PM   
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OMG and on it goes....This is the thread that never ends...it goes on and on my friends...some people started posting on it not knowing what it was....and they'll continue posting forever just because...this is the thread that never ends...it goes  on and on my friends...some people started posting on it....

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 7:27:00 PM   
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The Lifestyle Manifesto by Boob BLoved

The Unibomber had a huge manifesto too...

People who write voluminous materials on a topic such as this usually have more than a "casual" (pun intended) interest in the topic at hand...

Hmmm… remote cabin in the wilderness, lives alone, armed with manifesto. Grizzly Adams type beard . . . he sorta’ fits the stereotype.

Robert,
So what's your day like? Solder up a timing device, post a reply on CM. Feed the dogs, load up a mail bomb. Post a reply on CM, go to the post office. Eat dinner, fire up the potbelly stove, modify another timer, post to CM.

Just messing with ya’. Glad you are still having fun on page 67.



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