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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 8:38:18 AM   
LadyEllen


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In any case, my post is likely far more the result of exposure to fags.

Just opened the second box for the day.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 8:43:44 AM   
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Who you callin' a dude and a TV?

In any case, my post is likely far more the result of exposure to fags.

Just opened the second box for the day.

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The pic of the above.    Adam???

Anyhow- he likely got his ideas from the TV and then went on a quest to live the fantasy.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 9:02:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Right. That's why everybody who saw the footage of Pope John Paul II getting shot bought a rifle and tried to kill somebody. Catholics were shooting at people for years after that.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 11:26:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		"I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Israel yet. America's unstinting and unfailing support of that genocidal bunch of fuckwits is one of the main reasons you people are so hated in the middle east, after all."

Holy shit someone else knows that ? That it in and of itself is the root of the problem ? How can you dare speak the truth in an open forum. In Germany you would be in a cell right next to Ernst Zundel. The truth of the Jew(I mean the Zionists) is enforced with the barrel of a gun. And a jail cell. Everything must be true then huh ?

T

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:05:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was reading the other day that one of our "enemies" had a triple agent in the CIA. Now they claim to be as good as the Mossad, and actually maybe they are. Let this be a warning to all, these people are not going to take this laying down, would you ? Like the Borg, they have the ability to analyse and adapt. A quality we seem to be losing as our hubris takes effect and time goes by. The pendulum will swing the other way.

If Arabs took over this country I would capitulate to them, and thank them for getting rid of the ZOG and AIPAC. I would try to gain their favor and possibly get to talk to some of the top dogs. What would I say ? " Look, I have been against what the motherfuckers have been doing to you since before I was born, there is nothing in our Constitution that authorizes this shit. If you really want peace just enforce the Consitution and we can be friends". Then I will be at least commisar of a state or three.

And as I have said before, if I were dictator, you would have alot more feedom than you have now. If Arabs took over this country I would consider it a good thing, akin to taking a loaded gun away from a five year old.

Get the fucking point ? I love this country, it is my country. I am not going anywhere. If you don't like it, try living in Israel. If you aren't from the right bloodline there you will get fucked in the ass at every stop sign. Those fucks who preach tolerance and equality do not hold those ideal in their hearts and minds. They practice a degree of apartheid that they would literally bomb South Africa for, but the motive is not a good one.

Want more ? Let me go wash my hands, that is just to cool down my fingers.

T

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:33:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some reasons in my opinion below…

It is in mans nature to blame others for their problems rather than look in a mirror. I believe the Muslim world in particular is jealous of the success of western civilization. They feel this success could only come from the subjugation of the Muslim people and their resources. They could be right to some degree but refuse to admit their part in allowing it to happen.

Arab leaders have used Israel and the US as scapegoats, building resentment, while they rape their country’s resources acquiring vast wealth at the expense of their citizens.

There is no way around the fact that the Muslim religion today is easy to manipulate to produce fanatics. This great religion has been bastardized by ambitious megalomaniacs warping the teachings of God to convince the gullible, sick, and hopeless, to kill themselves and innocent others for their personal gain.

We are an open society and easy to manipulate through our free press. This makes us a target for terrorism. Without the sensationalism of their acts by the media there would be no suicide bombers.

We…meaning the US and our allies have failed to use our money, power, and influence properly. We have for many years blindly supported Israel even though their actions, even if understandable, have not been conducive to a settlement in the region.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:35:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		A terrorist is a person, not an "it."

There is no iron-clad agreement on the definition of terrorist, or terrorism, mostly because it's difficult to come up with an accurate one that doesn't include major state players as guilty of it as well. The basic agreement, at least prior to 9/11 and the flood of american exceptionalism that followed, was that terrorism is violence targeted at a civilian population to achieve a political goal. Just as "war is a continuation of politics by other means," terrorism is a political tool, most notably used by groups that tend to lack more traditional armed forces. Setting aside the acts of major state players that arguably fall under the definition of targeting violence at civilians for political reasons and focusing on the groups that tend to get categorized as "terrorist" in the West, these groups don't seem to have any philosophical attachment to terrorism as a method for achieving their goals as much as it is the only (violent) method they have available. These "terrorist" groups have disputes with power structures but do not have sufficient power themselves to engage in symmetrical warfare. As already noted, terrorism can be pretty effective.

The U.S. is a target for terrorism because of the way we choose to exercise our power and because we have so much more power than our enemies, foreign and domestic. 

I'm not sure that terrorism can ever be stopped. It isn't possible to eliminate all power imbalances in the world. And totalitarianism may stamp out terrorism for awhile, but would only nurture and encourage it in the long run. The most obvious way to lessen terrorism is to make sure that single men between, eh, 16-34 are kept well-fed, fully employed and laid.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:46:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I forgot to add how to stop it…

Reevaluate how we determine our allies. Rather than supporting those with power we should support those who reflect the wants and needs of their people. If a government does not support our views on human rights we do not support them… That simple.

We use our money and influence to convince the people it is too their advantage to be friends with us. Would it not be better to get our oil through fair trade with friendly nations than try to secure it with puppet governments?

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:46:10 PM   
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The most obvious way to lessen terrorism is to make sure that single men between, eh, 16-34 are kept well-fed, fully employed and laid.



HEHE, either suck me, and bake me a pie, or I shoot the baby, your choice.

Should we meet at a hotel in between our locations for convenience.


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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:52:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, to me a human is a person, a terrorist is a job title or occupation, just like an engineer is a person before their job title.

Would be engineers go to training establishments to become engineers, likewise those who wish to become terrorists for whatever reason do similar.


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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:53:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucienne
The most obvious way to lessen terrorism is to make sure that single men between, eh, 16-34 are kept well-fed, fully employed and laid.



HEHE, either suck me, and bake me a pie, or I shoot the baby, your choice.

Should we meet at a hotel in between our locations for convenience.




Shoot the baby.

I'm hardcore.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:56:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		"There is no way around the fact that the Muslim religion today is easy to manipulate to produce fanatics. This great religion has been bastardized by ambitious megalomaniacs warping the teachings of God to convince the gullible, sick, and hopeless, to kill themselves and innocent others for their personal gain."

Butch, who makes money off of this shit ? We know. Can't say it.

You know it really doesn't bother me all that much that this is true, what bothers me is the fact that we can't say it.

T

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:57:24 PM   
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There is not really such a thing as a terrorist. Merely retaliatory people who had something of value swindled from them. Usually their wealth.

Deliberately targeting innocent people is not explained by being pissed off over the cookies you lost.

K.


Well....if the bad flat mate of the world keeps smashing your stuff.....then at some point the lines will become blurred in terms of who is and isn't a legitimate target. Surely an unreasonable action doesn't deserve a reasonable response?

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 12:57:38 PM   
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No, to me a human is a person, a terrorist is a job title or occupation, just like an engineer is a person before their job title.


Ok, this may be an invitation to the dumbest semantic battle ever, but proper english dictates that "it" is not a proper pronoun when referring to persons. While I'm at it, the choice of "what" rather than "who" in your subject line is also rather telling.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 1:03:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		No doubt a person who engages in terrorist activities when their goal is reached, they influence the change they want or compromise, they go back to their normal lives,  examples of which can be found in Northern Ireland, where some went into politics. But thinking of politics isn't terrorism nothing more than an extreme version of politics ?

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 1:10:34 PM   
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Terrorism works.

It goes back to Algeria resisting the French. Even modern day terrorists study this conflict.

Yet another reason to do your own homework.



The Algerian leaders studied in Western Europe and took their lead from Western style insurrection. Their motto: "The Road to Freedom is in Armed Resistance" was drawn directly from the French Revolution.

When someone camps in your back garden you'll do something about it. And there's no reason why the like of the Afghans should play by Western rules. If some bloke turned up in your back garden and said: "right mate - this is mine now - fuck off - and if you want it back you're going to have to play by my rules"....rules of course that put the people who live there at a distinct disadvantage.....then you wouldn't say: "yeah better be off now cos I can't compete with you arsenal - it's all yours".....you'd find another way to fight back (within the imposed rules or outside of them).

It's the old adage - you want people to play fair with you? then play fair with them......and turning up at someone's home and rearranging the furniture....and smashing some of the ornaments in the process ain't exactly playing fair.

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 1:11:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
But thinking of politics isn't terrorism nothing more than an extreme version of politics ?


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Just as "war is a continuation of politics by other means," terrorism is a political tool, most notably used by groups that tend to lack more traditional armed forces.


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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 1:22:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		"and smashing some of the ornaments in the process ain't exactly playing fair. "

Especially if those ornaments are your spouse, children, Uncles, neices, nephews and so forth, and kids from the neighborhood. I find it no surprise that these people are not fucking around.

T

Edited brcause I sense the need to expound on that.

You bomb my house and I am dead, but if you miss and hit one street over you are in deep shit. Every White, Balck, Green, Red or otherwise will be on my side in a matter of minutes. I am old and willing to die, that is only one rallying point. I can easily motivate people who are suffering some sort of strife. Sort of what governments do, but I can do it better. I have a couple of fridges full of food, as well as the cabinets, I also have weed and beer. I can't bring back your dead children, but I can sure as hell figure out a plan to get back at their murderers. I will coopt you, make you feel like family, part of a group and partially fill the void created by your loss.

No, they are not smarter than I. And I know who is what and who is who.

T

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 1:22:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne
The most obvious way to lessen terrorism is to make sure that single men between, eh, 16-34 are kept well-fed, fully employed and laid.



HEHE, either suck me, and bake me a pie, or I shoot the baby, your choice.

Should we meet at a hotel in between our locations for convenience.




Shoot the baby.

I'm hardcore.


Kinky..

I've never eaten baby before, but I'll give it a try, I'm tired of pie anyway, and is holiday inn okay for you about 7ish.

Or else I'll shoot the kitten.....

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RE: The terrorist, what creates it ? - 3/8/2010 1:23:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm just curious...When do you think the rights of a tradition or religion out weighs your personal morality?

For instance if your daughter were to marry into a religion that allowed the mutilation of your granddaughter... would you allow it?

If your daughter were stoned or beheaded for marital indiscretions would you allow it.

If your daughter were beat with a whip because she showed an ankle on the street…would you allow it?

If your granddaughter were not allowed an education…would you allow it?

If your daughter could not vote or drive a vehicle would you allow it?

If you granddaughter were lawfully killed because she dated a man of another race or religion… would you allow it?

When do human rights out weigh religious rights and traditions with you…Or do they?

Butch


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