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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 11:57:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		The owner of the restaurant i work at is Korean. We have been discussing the health care reform lately, he tends to like to understand american ways more. This he doesnt get. Koreans, according to him, pay 20 dollars a week, and can go see a Dr, have an operation, stay in the hospital... no bills. Now its not all premium service. for example, if you want a private room, you pay for it out of pocket. you always pay for upgrades... lol.

He owns a few restaurants here. one of our cooks came in limping. we discovered he fell outside of the McDonalds the night before and broke his foot. The owner packed him up in the car, off to the hospital, and he paid the bill.

The man is actually looking forward to being able to afford to offer us insurance.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 12:55:53 PM   
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I can't help but wonder how much time you spent finding videos of these poor deluded fools.....in addition it is curious why you would ascribe such missinformed silliness to the denizens of politics and religion...most of us close to ,if in fact actualyy,political junkies.Do you not give the majority here just a little bit more credit ?...Certainly you would admit that the majority of those here,no matter which side of the aisle we are on,are much better informed .


It took about 25 seconds, one link led to the next....

Sorry, I really can't give you Obama supporters any credit for intelligence, you claim to be better informed, but yet follow this Lemming right over the cliff.

IMO Obama is bad for the country, he's taking us down a road that most don't want to travel, but he just doesn't give a shit.

I honestly believe he's out to destroy the U.S. as a super power, and transform this once great country into yet another mediocre Marxist/Socialist "we're no better than everyone else" country.

Hate to have to tell you this subrob,but having read a great many of your posts.....I can't for the life of me raise one iota of interest in your opinion of my,or anyone else's intelligence. Now if you in fact had any intelligence yourself I just might be mildly interested ,but things being what they are.....nope,zip and nada.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 12:57:41 PM   
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I can't help but wonder how much time you spent finding videos of these poor deluded fools.....in addition it is curious why you would ascribe such missinformed silliness to the denizens of politics and religion...most of us close to ,if in fact actualyy,political junkies.Do you not give the majority here just a little bit more credit ?...Certainly you would admit that the majority of those here,no matter which side of the aisle we are on,are much better informed .


It took about 25 seconds, one link led to the next....

Sorry, I really can't give you Obama supporters any credit for intelligence, you claim to be better informed, but yet follow this Lemming right over the cliff.

IMO Obama is bad for the country, he's taking us down a road that most don't want to travel, but he just doesn't give a shit.

I honestly believe he's out to destroy the U.S. as a super power, and transform this once great country into yet another mediocre Marxist/Socialist "we're no better than everyone else" country.

Hate to have to tell you this subrob,but having read a great many of your posts.....I can't for the life of me raise one iota of interest in your opinion of my,or anyone else's intelligence. Now if you in fact had any intelligence yourself I just might be mildly interested ,but things being what they are.....nope,zip and nada.

Very intelligent retort.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 1:03:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I obviously thought so.....although I have much better replies handy for those occasions when I am threatened with being fed to gators....I really don't have too much prepared for  being called a lemming...you have to admit it doesn't come up too often..

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 1:33:10 PM   
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Didn't you claim you worked in health care?


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The owner of the restaurant i work at is Korean. We have been discussing the health care reform lately, he tends to like to understand american ways more. This he doesnt get. Koreans, according to him, pay 20 dollars a week, and can go see a Dr, have an operation, stay in the hospital... no bills. Now its not all premium service. for example, if you want a private room, you pay for it out of pocket. you always pay for upgrades... lol.

He owns a few restaurants here. one of our cooks came in limping. we discovered he fell outside of the McDonalds the night before and broke his foot. The owner packed him up in the car, off to the hospital, and he paid the bill.

The man is actually looking forward to being able to afford to offer us insurance.


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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 1:40:10 PM   
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Of course that is just speculation....in place of accusation of deception

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 1:43:17 PM   
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And I didn't know that you're one of her sock puppets, either.

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Some people work two jobs.....a favorite second job is often in the restraunt business...extra wait staff on the weekends is just standard practice.
Of course that is just speculation....in place of accusation of deception


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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 1:47:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sanity ,sanity what ever will we do with you,it just so happens that at the time of my accident(that led to my disability) I also held a second job.Worked as a waiter in my friends Italian rest...fri and sat nights...made damm good money doing so too...and than when the nights over and the doors are locked...we would go thru the bar inventory....all in all not a bad deal.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 2:27:11 PM   
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Have you got any theories on what his reasons would be for trying to do that?


I really don't have any theories as to why he hates America as it is so much that he feels the need make us "like everyone else".




So you think someone who hates America is going to go through everything he had to go through to become President of the country? He hates it so much, he spends his entire life working himself into a position where he can be elected the leader of the country in order to destroy it? Some sort of Manchurian candidate?

Seriously?



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But judging by his past associations, and current advisers, he is clearly a Marxist, and bad for the country.



A Marxist who gives hundreds of billions of tax dollars to Wall Street with no strings attached?

Exactly what kind of Marxist would that be?


A Marxist who hasn't read any Marx, presumably.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 3:56:09 PM   
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So you think someone who hates America is going to go through everything he had to go through to become President of the country? He hates it so much, he spends his entire life working himself into a position where he can be elected the leader of the country in order to destroy it? Some sort of Manchurian candidate?

Seriously?

What exactly did he "go through"?  A Soros type "benefactor" sponsors his education at Occidental, Columbia & Harvard, sets him up with connections in Chicago, and lets his charisma take over...Not very hard to understand.


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A Marxist who gives hundreds of billions of tax dollars to Wall Street with no strings attached?

Exactly what kind of Marxist would that be?



One who got control of GM & Chrysler, Freddie & Fannie (and all those lovely toxic mortgages), and now the Health Care system of the U.S.

Pretty damn good trade off, if you wanted to control the economy of the U.S., wouldn't you say?

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/25/2010 5:35:48 PM   
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So you think someone who hates America is going to go through everything he had to go through to become President of the country? He hates it so much, he spends his entire life working himself into a position where he can be elected the leader of the country in order to destroy it? Some sort of Manchurian candidate?

Seriously?

What exactly did he "go through"?  A Soros type "benefactor" sponsors his education at Occidental, Columbia & Harvard, sets him up with connections in Chicago, and lets his charisma take over...Not very hard to understand.

Are you talking about Rezko?  Because that's an urban legend.  Obama did it with loans and scholarships.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 2:18:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, that's the general budget.

For the most part, the problem with Social Security is made up. It is actually solidly funded for more decades than any other Federal program. Including defense. How many other federal programs do you know that have survived and thrived for well over 100 years.

Social Security, by law, must invest its surplus in the most solid investment available: Treasury Bills. That fact is sometimes distorted as "the federal government dips into the Social Security funds." Well, duh, yeah. "Buying treasury bills" simply means "giving a loan to the federal government." In reality, it is no different from you or me or China buying Treasury Bills.

I'd rather have that then allowing Social Security to hire Bernie Madoff to invest in stocks.

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Isn't the biggest problem with social security at the moment that Bush steered a lot of its funding out of it into the paying for the war in Iraq? There was a similar problem with the agency that maintains the levees in Louisiana a few years back, iirc.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 2:40:06 AM   
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For the most part, the problem with Social Security is made up. It is actually solidly funded for more decades than any other Federal program. Including defense. How many other federal programs do you know that have survived and thrived for well over 100 years.




Not according to the Congressional Budget Office

The Social Security Act was signed by President Franklin Roosevelt on August 14, 1935 making it less than 75 years old, unless you are using Obamamath.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 5:03:18 AM   
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For the most part, the problem with Social Security is made up. It is actually solidly funded for more decades than any other Federal program. Including defense. How many other federal programs do you know that have survived and thrived for well over 100 years.

Not according to the Congressional Budget Office

The Social Security Act was signed by President Franklin Roosevelt on August 14, 1935 making it less than 75 years old, unless you are using Obamamath.


The article you linked doesn't really support that assertion. Social Security has run with a surplus and built up a rainy-day fund from the surplus. This year, it may not run at a surplus because of the economic crisis. Big deal. Politicians will get a lot of propaganda mileage out of that, but in reality, that's what's SUPPOSED to happen. It wouldn't make sense to permanently collect more in social security taxes than we use.

The rainy-day fund ("trust fund") is so incredibly huge that it will still last for many decades - by the most pessimistic estimate (from that same article) until 2037. By then the program would be 102 years old.

Quite frankly, a prediction three decades into the future isn't worth the paper it's printed on. The people who will pay social security taxes haven't even been born yet. Heck, their PARENTS are in elementary school today. So this is based on pure guesswork about how many children there will be, life expectancy, as well as future immigration levels and all kinds of other factors.

If it was possible to make realistic predictions that far into the future, Ronald Reagan could have predicted the date when Lehman Brothers would go bankrupt - the day he took office. Instead, no economist worth his salt will make predictions more than five years into the future.

So that supposed date of 2037 or 2045 or 2070 or whatever your favorite date is, is little more than fiction.


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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 5:40:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am an RN. i dont get your point, Sanity, unless its to try and say i am lying. I took a break from the field due to stress and burnout. The break lasted longer than i planned. I now have to take a refresher course. I have posted on this before.

No new news here Sanity. your late to the party.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 5:51:35 AM   
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The article you linked doesn't really support that assertion. Social Security has run with a surplus and built up a rainy-day fund from the surplus. This year, it may not run at a surplus because of the economic crisis. Big deal. Politicians will get a lot of propaganda mileage out of that, but in reality, that's what's SUPPOSED to happen. It wouldn't make sense to permanently collect more in social security taxes than we use.


Administrations keep borrowing from SS. I wont mention which ones... lol.

In all seriousness, that money was borrowed with the knowledge that it would never be returned. I never see a complaint about this.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 6:41:55 AM   
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So you think someone who hates America is going to go through everything he had to go through to become President of the country? He hates it so much, he spends his entire life working himself into a position where he can be elected the leader of the country in order to destroy it? Some sort of Manchurian candidate?

Seriously?

What exactly did he "go through"?  A Soros type "benefactor" sponsors his education at Occidental, Columbia & Harvard, sets him up with connections in Chicago, and lets his charisma take over...Not very hard to understand.

Are you talking about Rezko?  Because that's an urban legend.  Obama did it with loans and scholarships.



How do you know? He had everything to do with his education sealed by an army of lawyers.

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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 6:48:56 AM   
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I am an RN. i dont get your point, Sanity, unless its to try and say i am lying. I took a break from the field due to stress and burnout. The break lasted longer than i planned. I now have to take a refresher course. I have posted on this before.

No new news here Sanity. your late to the party.


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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 7:18:28 AM   
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There is even speculation that he owes it all to affirmative action but as you say, there is no way to know because for whatever reason he's too ashamed of his academic records to allow them to see the light of day.


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How do you know? He had everything to do with his education sealed by an army of lawyers.



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RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. - 3/26/2010 8:51:51 AM   
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There is even speculation that he owes it all to affirmative action but as you say, there is no way to know because for whatever reason he's too ashamed of his academic records to allow them to see the light of day.


I love how all these "experts" know all about Obama, and how he was raised a "po black chile", and had to fight tooth and nail on the mean streets of the ghetto for his next crust of bread, and how he had to take out loan after loan to pay for his education..

But not the Obama that grew up living with his bank vice president. grandmother, who put him into Hawaii's most exclusive Prep school, or that his father was a Harvard grad, and poor little Barack was a legacy student there.

Will the real Barack Hussein Obama please stand up?

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