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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 4:05:20 PM   
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All I have to do is to reduce carb intake and excercise more. I lost 30 pounds three years ago by doing this, I can do it again. And will.

Knowing this,I have little sympathy for people who CHOOSE not to follow suit.
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You can, but are you? Studies show that you're not. I'm not gonna run around and try to force people to lose weight, and I don't think I'm being forced to be attracted to someone I'm not. However, I find it very disheartening when people that I am attracted to are far and few between because of this simple issue.

It seems to me that many men also prefer thin women. Shouldn't people try to emulate that which they desire? Then for someone like me, I get "whined at" because I'm not attracted to obese people.


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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 4:07:40 PM   
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I've been overweight. I prefer to be thin. I've been thin most of my life.

The problem with there being so many obese people lies in the fact that over >30% of the US population is obese. It is NOT something to be proud of. My brother is obese and so is my mom, my sister is overweight. I refuse to look like that. And just because people are thin, doesn't necessarily mean that they are "shirt ripping Fabios", which I can't stand those, either. As a female, I prefer to be the pretty one. I also like to be healthy.

According to the CDC:
American society has become 'obesogenic,' characterized by environments that promote increased food intake, nonhealthful foods, and physical inactivity. Policy and environmental change initiatives that make healthy choices in nutrition and physical activity available, affordable, and easy will likely prove most effective in combating obesity.

Obesity is a risk factor for a variety of chronic conditions including diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol, stroke, heart disease, certain cancers, and arthritis.26 Higher grades of obesity are associated with excess mortality, primarily from cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and certain cancers. 26-28 Trends in obesity-related health outcomes do not always parallel trends in the prevalence of obesity. Despite the increases in obesity prevalence, mortality rates and mortality from coronary heart disease and stroke have declined over several decades,29 possibly due to improvements in public health and medical care (IMO, due to technological advances in medical care, public health improvements most likely refers to public education and response times. I wanted to clarify this before someone went off spouting off how great US health care already is. Yeah, it's great if you have tons of money.) and in other cardiovascular risk factors30; however, hypertension appears to be increasing.31 Of these obesity-related conditions, diabetes may be most closely linked to obesity, and the increasing incidence of diabetes worldwide is of considerable concern.32
Prevalence and Trends in Obesity Among US Adults, 1999 - 2008

Because of the increased need for medical care caused by obesity, obesity becomes a disease burden to society at large, much the same as drug addiction or smoking.

Basically, what I hear the OP saying is that if we're thin or prefer thin people, then we shouldn't be into BDSM because it's heavily populated with obese people.


Wow.  Stuff we've never heard before.  I feel so enlightened.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 4:10:40 PM   
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Basically, what I hear the OP saying is that if we're thin or prefer thin people, then we shouldn't be into BDSM because it's heavily populated with obese people.


I read what he wrote totally differently-I thought he was saying that us plumper people shouldn't get so het up when people start threads pointing out that we exist in all our glory...:P

I didn't read it as an attack on people who prefer skinnies at all.


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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 4:16:52 PM   
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I am a very devout Christian....I am but a lone sheep in the Lord's flock. I do as the Lord commands. I see what the Lord tells me to view and I will cast aside all that the Lord says that I shall not acknowledge.

I went to my favorite biblical search engine and typed in the the acronym BBW.

This is what it said....

No results found.

No results were found for BBW in the version(s):King James Version.



God has forsaken the BBW's and therefore so shall I.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 4:20:53 PM   
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quote:

I read what he wrote totally differently-I thought he was saying that us plumper people shouldn't get so het up when people start threads pointing out that we exist in all our glory...:P

I didn't read it as an attack on people who prefer skinnies at all.


I could be wrong, I've been wrong before.



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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:06:53 PM   
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The horse is dead, rotted and has been beaten so far into the ground that he has fallen out on the other side of the world.

Fallen, hell!  It's gone into orbit!

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:12:01 PM   
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But is Ron being blown?.... isn't that the real question?


and Kwasaints aren't really fattening


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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:17:56 PM   
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Why do we get uppity about fat threads? Because skinny people seem unable to abstain from insulting the adipose impaired. The levels of condescension are typically way above average on fat threads - like people quoting statistics to prove their points. Fat does not equal unintelligent. I don't know any people who are overweight who don't know how to lose weight. The will power is the issue, and being preached at doesn't cure fat.

Sort of like in Arkansas where kids have their BMI's done at school, and the results sent home to their parents. Gosh, what a surprise! Little Johnny is FAT! Who knew?

Interestingly there is another thread that analysed plate size and portion size in different pictures of the last supper. The plate and portion size has been steadily increasing for decades, if artists renditions of normal(for the culture and time) is accurate. This would suggest that "we" are only going to get fatter as a society, as in percentages will rise.


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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:18:49 PM   
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Yes, the Kwasinner-bons are the killers!

Smutmonger, you hit the nail on the head; drop the carbs, and drop the pounds. At least for men.


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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:22:04 PM   
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Hey, I lost 50 lbs in 2001. I've kept it off since then.  And yep, I'm still obese.  I quit at 50 lbs because I couldn't stand fasting (800 cal protein-sparing fast) any longer.

Guess what?  That puts me in the 2% success rate for long-term weight loss. (If it were so easy, there'd be no diet industry.)  The NYTimes science section's been running some of the latest studies that show just how determined your body is to hold onto what it's got (damn, you should read the comments, they'll set your nose hairs on fire, especially when they contradict "conventional wisdom").

Both my parents have high blood pressure, giving me an 80% chance of also having high blood pressure, and I do.  But my major medical costs aren't due to obesity - they're due to migraines and a brain malformation.  Both are genetic.  So yeah, I'm doing my part to drive up everyone's health care costs.

And no, I don't expect anyone to love my shape - but I do expect civility in everyday life.

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You can, but are you? Studies show that you're not. I'm not gonna run around and try to force people to lose weight, and I don't think I'm being forced to be attracted to someone I'm not. However, I find it very disheartening when people that I am attracted to are far and few between because of this simple issue.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:22:24 PM   
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Carbs are energy. you can't live a healthy life without them.


says the skinny guy.....:)

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:24:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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The horse is dead, rotted and has been beaten so far into the ground that he has fallen out on the other side of the world.

Fallen, hell!  It's gone into orbit!



*nodnodnod* there was something about it being spotted floating past on my local news this evening


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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:24:50 PM   
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Carbs, good carbs, good carbs are full of vitamin B that help make you grounded and feel stable. Carbs are your friends. Crappy carbs taste good a lot of times but they are not really body friendly.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:26:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

All I have to do is to reduce carb intake and excercise more. I lost 30 pounds three years ago by doing this, I can do it again. And will.

Knowing this,I have little sympathy for people who CHOOSE not to follow suit.


This is a narrow minded statement. It's not that easy nor is it that easy for other people myself included. For me it's a battle of fighting effects of medication that are required for my long term health. It doesn't matter what I eat or how much I work out it is always a struggle to simply maintain. The ONLY reason I have an issue with threads on weight are the same reason others have pointed out, people tend to be narrow minded and judgemental and rarely do the discussions stay productive.

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:28:14 PM   
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Yes, the Kwasinner-bons are the killers!

Smutmonger, you hit the nail on the head; drop the carbs, and drop the pounds. At least for men.



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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:30:35 PM   
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Well , Nika , you have to remember he is a man, and men can lose weight by thinking about it. Women, not so much. Our bodies like to hang on to those pounds so that when famine comes we can still feed the rugrats.


Of course, the fact that we don't have to do that any more (or at least some of the world) hasn't gotten through to our bodies yet. *sigh* damn that programming!

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:32:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Carbs, good carbs, good carbs are full of vitamin B that help make you grounded and feel stable. Carbs are your friends. Crappy carbs taste good a lot of times but they are not really body friendly.



HC?... we are slim... if you are like Me you can spend a week in a bakery and not gain 2 lbs.

I once bought "Weight Gainer 6000"... 2 for one. In six weeks og roughly 5500 to 7500 calories a day... I gained 4 lbs.......... no one is going to listen to us....:)

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:33:07 PM   
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But is Ron being blown?.... isn't that the real question?



Lets get this thread back on topic.
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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:35:59 PM   
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consider yourself pelted with bonbons and donuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? - 3/23/2010 5:36:40 PM   
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It wasn't easy for me either. I was doing ten to fourteen miles a day on the bicycle -six days a week. It was painful, I sweated-I endured.  I don't see many fat chicks out there doing this. Nothing in life is free.

You don't lose weight by eating three less bon bons a day-and sitting on your ass in front of the computer.

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ORIGINAL: SweetNika


quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

All I have to do is to reduce carb intake and excercise more. I lost 30 pounds three years ago by doing this, I can do it again. And will.

Knowing this,I have little sympathy for people who CHOOSE not to follow suit.


This is a narrow minded statement. It's not that easy nor is it that easy for other people myself included. For me it's a battle of fighting effects of medication that are required for my long term health. It doesn't matter what I eat or how much I work out it is always a struggle to simply maintain. The ONLY reason I have an issue with threads on weight are the same reason others have pointed out, people tend to be narrow minded and judgemental and rarely do the discussions stay productive.


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