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Many Atheist groups held Zombieaster Parties this weekend. Mine did. They dressed as zombies then partied downtown until the wee hours of the morning. I chose not to attend last night as I don't believe that mocking Christians helps our cause. Many members of our local group didn't see it that way. They believed that they were just celebrating their lack of belief, which they have every right to do.

It's a hell of an excuse for thinking--mere reaction and rejection kicks in at age two.

Nor do I see any atheist "cause." Texas is a scary place.

Atheists are just as diverse a group as Christians, and the sentiments I stated above are not exclusive to Texas. As I said, many Atheist groups in most major cities held Zombieaster parties. This has become a tradition of sorts.

As for an atheist "cause", many of us believe the world would be a better place if people were less religious. Count me among that ilk. As a group we differ on how to achieve that goal. I prefer "quiet" activism and education, and others are more "in your face." I think the Zombie parties qualified as the later.

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ORIGINAL: Honsoku

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Look all, the title of the thread is "Happy Zombie Jesus Day" for crying out loud. It's obvious that it's not going to be a reverential posting. So to then read the thread and then get offended by it, is simply looking to be offended. Either every subject is okay to poke fun at or no subject is okay, because any joke is bound to offend someone.

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Out of curiosity... how is your belief that the "world would be a better place if people were less religious" coincide with tolerance?

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On a day some consider holy, a thread is started wishing a happy day with a sprinkle of mockery towards those who believe. and you feel this is ok? he has his right to post it. i have my right to voice my objection.

as my mom used to say about clothes... just because they make it in your size doesnt mean you should wear it. this is the same thing. if it had been posted in the Humor section, i could, possibly, see the joke. It was posted in this section, instead. This was not intended as a joke, but a statement against a particular religion.

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I like what the OP did...I'm at a loss as to how anyone could seriously believe a crucified man could come back to life after dying from shock, severe blood loss and asphyxiation. Anyone who believes a person is able to come back to life after going through something like THAT is clearly stupid and uneducated. I'd personally be happy seeing all religious books be classified as fiction.

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ORIGINAL: thelastfirstborn

I like what the OP did...I'm at a loss as to how anyone could seriously believe a crucified man could come back to life after dying from shock, severe blood loss and asphyxiation. Anyone who believes a person is able to come back to life after going through something like THAT is clearly stupid and uneducated. I'd personally be happy seeing all religious books be classified as fiction.

You know the cause of death because A) you were present at the autopsy back then or B) you are assuming that would be the cause of death.

No one knows, with any scientific proof, what the cause of death was. Therefore, no one knows for sure, with any scientific proof, that JC was even dead when he was placed in that tomb. All anyone of our era has to go on are the written descriptions of what non-medically trained people (my assumption) back in the day thought they saw.

Unless you have scientific proof that JC died per your analysis, your proclamation could equally be classified as coming from someone who is "clearly stupid and uneducated."

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ORIGINAL: sappatoti

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ORIGINAL: thelastfirstborn

I like what the OP did...I'm at a loss as to how anyone could seriously believe a crucified man could come back to life after dying from shock, severe blood loss and asphyxiation. Anyone who believes a person is able to come back to life after going through something like THAT is clearly stupid and uneducated. I'd personally be happy seeing all religious books be classified as fiction.

You know the cause of death because A) you were present at the autopsy back then or B) you are assuming that would be the cause of death.

No one knows, with any scientific proof, what the cause of death was. Therefore, no one knows for sure, with any scientific proof, that JC was even dead when he was placed in that tomb. All anyone of our era has to go on are the written descriptions of what non-medically trained people (my assumption) back in the day thought they saw.

Unless you have scientific proof that JC died per your analysis, your proclamation could equally be classified as coming from someone who is "clearly stupid and uneducated."

Another possibility is that emperical knowledge gained from the extensive historical and scientific study of the thousands of crucifictions that occured during that period in history could lead one to say with a great degree of certainty how Jesus died.

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Wow. Some interesting images on this thread. Who knew there was so much zombie iconography?

Fortunately, my own image of this Easter Day is a much happier one, that of the crowd that gathered this morning at All Souls Unitarian Church here in D.C. There were, to borrow from the Book of Common Prayer, "all sorts and conditions" of people: adorable kids, lesbian couples, African-American grandes dames, earnest young hetero pairs, gay men of a certain age, slightly worn looking folks just back from building houses in New Orleans, people limping along with the help of a cane, and so on and so forth. I found myself remembering a favorite line from Dickens: "In they all came, one after another; some shyly, some boldly, some gracefully, some awkwardly, some pulling, some pushing; in they all came any how and every how."

And what did they come for? The music, the ritual, the community. The chance to explore (with, being Unitarians, more questions than answers) the possibility that life may be more than material, that there may be deeper realities worth pondering and enduring values worth cultivating. And, on this Easter Day, joy in and hope for renewal, in whatever form that takes.

Seeing all these diverse folks come together to celebrate and hope and touch one another's lives was, for me at least, a powerful image that I shall cherish long after I've forgotten the zombie pictures.

Happy Easter to you all.

Peace,

DC

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Are you saying that a joke can never be in bad taste?

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ORIGINAL: Honsoku

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Look all, the title of the thread is "Happy Zombie Jesus Day" for crying out loud. It's obvious that it's not going to be a reverential posting. So to then read the thread and then get offended by it, is simply looking to be offended. Either every subject is okay to poke fun at or no subject is okay, because any joke is bound to offend someone.

So what you are saying is that if i am offended, i should shut up and just take it.

Um... nope... but thank you for playing "lets stifle the voices".

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I like what the OP did...I'm at a loss as to how anyone could seriously believe a crucified man could come back to life after dying from shock, severe blood loss and asphyxiation. Anyone who believes a person is able to come back to life after going through something like THAT is clearly stupid and uneducated. I'd personally be happy seeing all religious books be classified as fiction.

You know the cause of death because A) you were present at the autopsy back then or B) you are assuming that would be the cause of death.

No one knows, with any scientific proof, what the cause of death was. Therefore, no one knows for sure, with any scientific proof, that JC was even dead when he was placed in that tomb. All anyone of our era has to go on are the written descriptions of what non-medically trained people (my assumption) back in the day thought they saw.

Unless you have scientific proof that JC died per your analysis, your proclamation could equally be classified as coming from someone who is "clearly stupid and uneducated."

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1. When being crucified, the nails used are driven through major veins and arteries in the wrists and also the shins. This type of trauma will lead to severe blood loss. Obviously, this type of injury could not be treated in the days of the Roman Republic, especially if you happened to be someone condemned to this form of punishment.
2. After suffering above named type of trauma, a person will go into acute shock from suffering this injury and the resulting blood loss.
3. From how a person was crucified, breathing becomes difficult. With the way the body was positioned, the chest muscles and diaphagram could not be allowed to fully expand. An individual in this position would have to lift their body up in order to allow more air into the lungs. Such a task done continously would drain a person just through the pain alone. Once exhausted and unable to lift oneself up any more, breathing becomes an impossible task. Death by asphyxiation will eventually occur.

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If its in order to depict Muhammad with a timebomb turban, why should this be a problem?

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So you're voting for the two wrongs make a right theory?  I honestly don't believe that of you.

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this little thing called "freedom of speech.