Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day Page: <<   < prev  3 4 [5] 6 7   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 4:54:46 PM   
LadyEllen


Posts: 10931
Joined: 6/30/2006
From: Stourport-England
Status: offline 		Jesus either died or didnt die.

On the one hand it was the Romans executing him and they knew how to go about killing someone, even and especially by way of crucifixion.

On the other hand, the whole idea of crucifixion is that it takes days not hours to die. Jesus apparently lasted less than a day. Also on the other hand, whats with this "vinegar" he's given, immediately after which he apparently dies. Also on the other hand, whats with the rather odd burial ritual that ensues - apparently of a fashion and with accoutrements quite unknown to 1st century Judea, except in terms of medical treatments?

Also on the other hand, whats with the wholesale copying of the mystery cult format that had been prevalent throughout the Roman world for centuries prior and some time after Jesus?

On balance, my conclusion is he didnt die - it was a staged event designed to fulfil a Jewish version of the common Mediterranean mystery cult and possibly as such, staged by....................... the Romans themselves......... as a means of undermining the indomitable monotheism of those awkward Jews, but it didnt work out at the time and the upshot was a few centuries of the Romans trying to distance themselves from it all before seizing the initiative back and making it the state religion as one of a multiple choice arrangement from the various cults around at the time.

None of the above matters though. Its not a matter of proof, science or rationality - its a matter of faith. If you truly believe he died for your sins then its all good.

E

_____________________________

In a test against the leading brand, 9 out of 10 participants couldnt tell the difference. Dumbasses.

(in reply to brainiacsub)
Profile   Post #: 81
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:12:05 PM   
Jeffff


Posts: 12600
Joined: 7/7/2007
Status: offline 		It all comes down to the Jews.

First they faked Jesus death. Then they caused the Black Plague.

Next thing ya know, they are fucking with the Germans and going all Zionist on everyone


Happy Easter!

_____________________________

"If you don't live it, it won't come out your horn." Charlie Parker

(in reply to LadyEllen)
Profile   Post #: 82
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:23:45 PM   
Smutmonger


Posts: 995
Joined: 2/17/2010
Status: offline 		Only thing I can say about this thread. Jesus has been sucessfully eating his follower's brains for over 2,000 years now. He's certainly the King of SOMETHING.

_____________________________

I didn't get into an alternative lifestyle to explore new frontiers in conformity.

(in reply to Jeffff)
Profile   Post #: 83
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:27:59 PM   
KatyLied


Posts: 13029
Joined: 2/24/2005
From: Pennsylvania
Status: offline 		This thread was worth opening for the venn diagram.

_____________________________

“If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal, not to people or things.”
- Albert Einstein

(in reply to Smutmonger)
Profile   Post #: 84
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:29:29 PM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline 		Jeff, 

it is not too late to repent.


(really, it isnt!)

(in reply to KatyLied)
Profile   Post #: 85
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:46:14 PM   
TheHeretic


Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

I believe in free speech, Rich. I believe in picking our battles wisely even more.



When it comes to free speech issues, Brainia, pretty much every battle is worth fighting in my book.

_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.


(in reply to brainiacsub)
Profile   Post #: 86
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:51:12 PM   
domiguy


Posts: 12952
Joined: 5/2/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

It all comes down to the Jews.

First they faked Jesus death. Then they caused the Black Plague.

Next thing ya know, they are fucking with the Germans and going all Zionist on everyone


Happy Easter!


The Jews have been directly responsible for the Cubs never winning a World Series for over a hundred Years.

They killed Christ, they faked the holocaust, they dictate every single move that transpires in music, on television or in the banking world.

But why the Cubs? What did they ever do to deserve this?

_____________________________



(in reply to Jeffff)
Profile   Post #: 87
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 5:54:12 PM   
Aneirin


Posts: 6121
Joined: 3/18/2006
From: Tamaris
Status: offline 		Some may know me here as a non christian and sometimes an eclectic pagan, ( only this because I have yet to find anything that sits comfortably with my own values), but on opening this thread expecting to be confronted with something related to this holday, I was shocked to see the cartoon as it was, I immediately felt it was in basd taste and provoking. But on reflection of that thought, I felt yeah, I don't like it, but it is not for me to decide how others see the event, be they believers or not, for we are supposedly in a free society where freedom of expression is allowed, anything less, would be heralding difficult times to come and similarity with those the US and parts of the UK see as the devil incarnate.

I still however find the cartoon distasteful and likening the event to Zombies is like likening the event to something from a horror story. Now I understand for those who have been brought under control of the church, it might be akin to a horror story, but in the world we live, our world, the tolerant west, the event is seen as something less horrific.

I for one certainly do not believe the easter story, for me, it is full of gaping holes, but I accept the believers believe, and as long as they cause no violence to others, non believers amongst them, I personally have no problem.


_____________________________

Everything we are is the result of what we have thought, the mind is everything, what we think, we become - Guatama Buddha

Conservatism is distrust of people tempered by fear - William Gladstone

(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 88
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 6:08:21 PM   
LanceHughes


Posts: 4737
Joined: 2/12/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Jesus either died or didnt die.

<lots snipped, but we'll keep the first line, even though it is NOT her main point>
E

There is one more option (which is given below this next quote.)

quote:

ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

Depends there sappatoti, the book says he died.  So if you follow the book you would have to take as truth the fact that he died and arose.

By "the book", I'm guessing you mean "The Bible."  "The Bible" also tells us that Jesus was born...... The other option to "He died or didn't" is that he wasn't born. There is not one shred of evidence (outside the bible) that supports his being an historical figure, by which I mean non-fictional.

I like the Thor reference.  When  asked "How can you not belive in something?"  I reply, "Do you believe in Ra?" And when they reply, "No." I continue with Thor, Zeus, and so on.  Then I say "I simply believe in one less god than you do."

Things are "coming around" to a more rational, materialistic view of the world:
Please read the short, short easy in this link.  It starts with "I believe that there is no God. I'm beyond atheism."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5015557

Edited for spacing and clarity.

< Message edited by LanceHughes -- 4/4/2010 6:45:48 PM >

_____________________________

"Train 'em the right way - my way." Lance Hughes
"Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer, but wish we didn't." Erica Jong

10 fluffy points
50 nz points

Member: VAA's posse

(in reply to flcouple2009)
Profile   Post #: 89
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 6:19:51 PM   
girlygurl


Posts: 6973
Joined: 8/5/2007
From: in the palms of His hands
Status: offline 		Freedom of speech, yes.

Choosing not to read this thread? Yes!

_____________________________

i see You

happily forever one

(in reply to flcouple2009)
Profile   Post #: 90
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 6:32:04 PM   
domiguy


Posts: 12952
Joined: 5/2/2006
Status: offline 		I learned that thor drives a camaro.

_____________________________



(in reply to girlygurl)
Profile   Post #: 91
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:00:28 PM   
takemeforyourown


Posts: 430
Joined: 2/24/2007
Status: offline 		Seriously? If you're a Christian, you are rather naive if you imagine a Zombie Jesus thread has anything to do with Christianity. I don't feel sorry for Christians who are offended by this thread. You shouldn't have read it.

(in reply to domiguy)
Profile   Post #: 92
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:05:11 PM   
Smutmonger


Posts: 995
Joined: 2/17/2010
Status: offline 		Lance. There is less social pressure to believe in the Christian god as the default as we mature in western cultures. I only identify as athiest these days to keep theists from thinking I approve of thier choices.

_____________________________

I didn't get into an alternative lifestyle to explore new frontiers in conformity.

(in reply to LanceHughes)
Profile   Post #: 93
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:16:03 PM   
brainiacsub


Posts: 1209
Joined: 11/11/2007
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

[...]
None of the above matters though. Its not a matter of proof, science or rationality - its a matter of faith. If you truly believe he died for your sins then its all good.

E

Oh really? Since when does the truth or rationality of what one believes not matter? At what point does it not become "all good?" Faith can be kinda tricky that way.

(in reply to LadyEllen)
Profile   Post #: 94
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:18:15 PM   
takemeforyourown


Posts: 430
Joined: 2/24/2007
Status: offline 		Because faith, for the faithful, transcends rationality.

(in reply to brainiacsub)
Profile   Post #: 95
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:20:06 PM   
brainiacsub


Posts: 1209
Joined: 11/11/2007
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

I believe in free speech, Rich. I believe in picking our battles wisely even more.



When it comes to free speech issues, Brainia, pretty much every battle is worth fighting in my book.

Rich, I'm going to give you some time to think about whether this was really what you meant before I begin making fun of you.

I'll give you hint - just because we can say something, should we?

(in reply to TheHeretic)
Profile   Post #: 96
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:26:02 PM   
brainiacsub


Posts: 1209
Joined: 11/11/2007
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: takemeforyourown

Because faith, for the faithful, transcends rationality.

As I was trying to point out to Lady E, it also at times transcends compassion, tolerance, and human decency. It's a slippery slope once we first abandon reason.

(in reply to takemeforyourown)
Profile   Post #: 97
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 7:56:31 PM   
rulemylife


Posts: 14614
Joined: 8/23/2004
Status: offline 		 
quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy


The Jews have been directly responsible for the Cubs never winning a World Series for over a hundred Years.

They killed Christ, they faked the holocaust, they dictate every single move that transpires in music, on television or in the banking world.

But why the Cubs? What did they ever do to deserve this?


They live on the north side, that's reason enough.





< Message edited by rulemylife -- 4/4/2010 8:09:14 PM >

(in reply to domiguy)
Profile   Post #: 98
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 8:02:54 PM   
TheHeretic


Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Rich, I'm going to give you some time to think about whether this was really what you meant before I begin making fun of you.

I'll give you hint - just because we can say something, should we?


Tell you what, Brainia, I'll give you a little time to utilize the search feature this board offers to go looking for my oft-stated positions on free speech (I'm a real pain in the ass on the subject). We are all free to draw our determinations about the OP of this thread, as we are free to draw conclusions about how anybody chooses to use such a rare and precious thing.

I'm pretty sure that where I think the edges are, is way outside your comfort zone.

_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.


(in reply to brainiacsub)
Profile   Post #: 99
RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day - 4/4/2010 8:12:45 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline 		rule

1) I have never forced any beliefs on anyone.

2) I have yet to see a thread started in favor of religion.

3) Two wrongs dont make a right. Belittling someone for their beliefs, then stating... dont force yours on me... pot calling the kettle black.

4) Easter has long since lost its religious meaning, at least in the US. Its not like Christmas, commercialized to the point of pain, its icons being more about a bunny and eggs than a figure of a man.
quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Honsoku

¬fr¬

Look all, the title of the thread is "Happy Zombie Jesus Day" for crying out loud. It's obvious that it's not going to be a reverential posting. So to then read the thread and then get offended by it, is simply looking to be offended. Either every subject is okay to poke fun at or no subject is okay, because any joke is bound to offend someone.



So what you are saying is that if i am offended, i should shut up and just take it.

Um... nope... but thank you for playing "lets stifle the voices".


How about if I am offended by the beliefs forced on me as an unbeliever?






_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to rulemylife)
Profile   Post #: 100
Page:   <<   < prev  3 4 [5] 6 7   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Happy Zombie Jesus Day Page: <<   < prev  3 4 [5] 6 7   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094