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How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 11:31:30 AM   
LadyKatherine


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From: Southern Ontario
Status: offline 		My Mistress has moved away to another Country or State.

So many times I have been msgd online by the eager sub/slave and when I ask them if they have served b4 and for how long it is so funny how often I get this same answer.


I served a Mistress for 2 yrs or 1.5 yrs but she has moved away to Europe or Australia or some far away place from them.
I really have to wonder just how true this really is.Just seems like a perfect line to use if you ask Me and One I have heard oh to often that I dont even believe it anymore. Honestly .. why do so many subs say this , do that many Dommes really leave the Country and relocated after a 2 yr relationship ?
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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 12:12:26 PM   
sub4hire


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I served a Mistress for 2 yrs or 1.5 yrs but she has moved away to Europe or Australia or some far away place from them.



Does it matter one way or the other? Even if the Dominant moved. It isn't like they are dead. References can still be checked.


Anyway, I fail to see the problem here.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 3:00:29 PM   
proudsub


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From: Washington
Status: offline 		My first dom did move back to the UK, but it was because i had to leave him.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 3:40:08 PM   
DallasDiva


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From: Dallas
Status: offline 		What I want to know is how do they all know what lines to use? It seems that this and the "I will relocate for you" is the common fad now. Honestly, do they have a club meeting that gives out the current "line"?

There are some that thier Mistress's might have moved....ok. Why did you not go with her? Or why did she no longer want you? These are the things I ask. Of course most will not give you the Mistress's name as a reference.

I think this is just another one of the lines to get you to spend time with them online. There are such lonely people out there that they will say anything.

You just have to take everything online with a grain of salt.


Ms Hill

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 4:07:20 PM   
sub4hire


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I think this is just another one of the lines to get you to spend time with them online. There are such lonely people out there that they will say anything.


If I am hearing you correctly. If someone uses that line on you. You don't spend time with them because you assume it is a line. So, I guess I have to say I'm a bit confused.

The reason I am taking an interest in this whole topic. Is because I myself spent ten years with my ex Dominant. We were both military when we met. He was transferred overseas. He wanted to marry me. I wasn't ready. I sure didn't want to go with. I had a life here as well. Suffice to say he went, I was released and I never had a day of regret.
So, everyone who says this, and I've never seen anyone say that but then again I have never searched for a submissive either. Everyone is not lying about it.

You just seem to be contradicting yourself a bit here.
Could it just be frustration in general?

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 5:43:20 PM   
sting516


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From: long island, ny
Status: offline 		As a sub who has considered relocation in the past, it does happen...that said...if someone tells you in their first bunch of messages that they want to relocate to you...that would be a red flag for me....now if they're saying that they'd be willing to relocated if things seemed to be working out...that's another thing.

sting

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 6:29:15 PM   
LadyKatherine


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From: Southern Ontario
Status: offline 		The relocation part is on another board here and of course another topic of debate.

My only statement her is that as many of times that I hear the Domme has moved it almost becomes hard to believe.I am not saying that in many of situations it isnt true either.But just makes you wonder why did she /he move, and like DallasDiva stated, why didnt the sub go with her or if she didnt want him then why? My point is this... when a sub tells Me he had served a Domme for like2 yrs and then she has left the Country... well for onething , it could be very hard to get any feedback from this Dominant about the potential sub.. and I think alot of the players online know this and thus the reason they say it. We can never tell who is real or not real online in this lifestyle or ay lifestyle for that matter vanilla or not ,unless they can provide us with such information as munches they attend on a reg, basis, groups they belong to where someone can vouch for them etc.
Basically telling Me that you served a Domme for so many yrs and she left the Country , just doesnt wash with Me unless you can show Me some proof. Yes Im a Bitch but I love it .

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 7:09:46 PM   
sub4hire


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Basically telling Me that you served a Domme for so many yrs and she left the Country , just doesnt wash with Me unless you can show Me some proof. Yes Im a Bitch but I love it .


It seems to me unless the Dominate is dead. One can still get references. There was zero reason in the world any Dom I was negotiating with couldn't get references from my ex Dom.
Although now he lives 50 miles from me once more. It is much easier now...it still can be done. No matter where they now live.
If one wants it enough of course.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/14/2004 7:24:24 PM   
newflowers


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Status: offline 		I too wonder about the same lines that are passed around. I have been contacted by quite a few whose submissive/slave died in a fatal car accident. Okay it's possible. But... and this is why I so understand your post - each time I've heard this line, it has been a "fatal car accident" - every single time. It does make you wonder. The fatal car accident and the ones who have so many years of experience that they began when they were still children.

I wonder if there is a place/book where one finds lines like these - moved out of the country and fatal car accidents. While both are possible, the frequency seems to leave one dubious.

While not particularly fond of hard and fast rules, I am immediately suspicious of the moving, the accidents, the entire life experienced - I've added those to my married (seperated is still married) and (okay call me a snob) hard pressed to spell ones. Each time I ignore these flags, I do so to my detriment.

This sounds kind of terrible, but I'm so glad you made this post. Perhaps it's misery loving company, but knowing the lines by the number are all over is comforting (probably in a sick kind of way).

newflowers

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/15/2004 12:19:37 AM   
angelica4


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Status: offline 		funny to hear these stories. my Dominant really did die on me. we had a two year relationship, and it was a shock. i was waiting for him when i got the news. i really felt that i would never serve another....it was a good relationship and i learned a lot in it....but i was fortunate to meet Someone new and the compatibility could not be ignored. the interesting thing is, i again feel that if anything happens to this relationship to end it, i will not want another.
angelica

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/15/2004 4:52:39 AM   
subdreams1955


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DallasDiva
Honestly, do they have a club meeting that gives out the current "line"?


Watch out, guys - they're on to us!


D

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/15/2004 5:01:02 AM   
theroebabe


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Status: offline 		Hi Angelica

I am sorry to hear about the loss you suffered, but never say never about life. and i wish you the best of luck in your relationship.

Roe

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/15/2004 8:59:58 AM   
captainblack


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Joined: 8/26/2004
Status: offline 		Depending on the line of work the person was in it might be legit that the Dom moved and the sub could not follow. As already pointed out that can be the case with military folks. It can also be the case with folks in technical and science fields.

My last 24/7 sub was transfered out of town by her company. I had no desire to hold
back her professional development, and as a result I have the story that my last sub moved
and I have been looking for a good one for several years. Good subs/slaves are hard to find!
Most I have interviewed in the last several years were just deletants, or tried to top from the
bottom way too much.

As a Dom that works in a field that could see me move for advancment in my profession
I could not ask any sub that also had a professional carreer to move with me. Maybe
if she was a store clerk, or a burger flipper that would be different, but I tend to not
get store clerks or berger flippers in my life.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/15/2004 7:19:29 PM   
SweetThighs


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Status: offline 		Just new to this site...I've been asked numerous times if I was willing to relocate. How does an individual simply pack up their belongings, quit their job, cancel insurances, inform banks etc. and leave?

I would be leary of anyone willing to relocate too quickly for any Dom/Domme or Master. Relocation is an action that requires alot of thought and both parties...the relocater and the receiver...should have a thorough knowledge of each other...at least IMO.

Victoria

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/16/2004 4:59:39 AM   
Questing4Aldonza


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Joined: 7/14/2004
Status: offline 		My Domme was always in another state. That was one of the problems.

Still, if the day ever comes, I'm pretty sure I can count on a glowing letter of reference from her, so I'm not worried there. It's just getting to the part where I'm asked for references that's the problem.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/16/2004 7:19:13 AM   
LadyShoshin


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Joined: 7/19/2004
From: Burlington, Ontario
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyKatherine

My Mistress has moved away to another Country or State.

So many times I have been msgd online by the eager sub/slave and when I ask them if they have served b4 and for how long it is so funny how often I get this same answer.


I served a Mistress for 2 yrs or 1.5 yrs but she has moved away to Europe or Australia or some far away place from them.
I really have to wonder just how true this really is.Just seems like a perfect line to use if you ask Me and One I have heard oh to often that I dont even believe it anymore. Honestly .. why do so many subs say this , do that many Dommes really leave the Country and relocated after a 2 yr relationship ?


According to Shippensburg University statistics, ( http://www.ship.edu/ship101/PACE/ ) 40 million people switch jobs every year. The average worker will change careers 3-6 times in their lifetime. Quite frequently, from my own questioning of subs, the Dom/me moved for career reasons.

I take what they say at face value, while references are helpful, they are subjective rather than objective. I prefer to make my own decision about the sub by meeting them face to face and talking to them extensively. I use active listening skills and note information of impotance that can come out in a seemingly casual conversation. I welcome subs checking my references, but I am aware that their own personal judgement of me weighs heavier than a reference.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/16/2004 10:07:13 AM   
strongnsubmissiv


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quote:

ORIGINAL: subdreams1955

quote:

ORIGINAL: DallasDiva
Honestly, do they have a club meeting that gives out the current "line"?


Watch out, guys - they're on to us!


D



By the way subdreams just wanted to let you know that after much thought, this month's meeting is a go. Same bat time, same bat place. Spread the word...

sns

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/17/2004 4:37:15 AM   
subdreams1955


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quote:

ORIGINAL: strongnsubmissiv
By the way subdreams just wanted to let you know that after much thought, this month's meeting is a go. Same bat time, same bat place. Spread the word...

Got it. Will do. I assume the normal password progression applies.

D

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/17/2004 6:30:58 AM   
darky


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Status: offline 		people migt say it because their past Lady is a bitch who threw them out for no good rerason. That does not stop you beinga slave does it just shows the Ladys sometimes take things to far.i was with someone evry day for 6months and then she meta girl and refuses to ever speak to me, even if i say hi in the street and she took a pair of trousers i bougt to wear to clubs and worn only once. And that is not fair defintly. it is bigger to re locate than someone re locate to you, you know. i am not to educated but evn i can gues what to write and what to change a bit becaus a new person wont trust you even if you tell the total truth to them.

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RE: How many times have you heard this one? - 9/18/2004 6:53:24 PM   
Madame


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Status: offline 		I've been in this lifestyle from both sides of the fence for 12 + years and I am still surprised when boys from far away places say they want to relocate to Serve me. Bang - just like that. Bah! How intellegent can they be if a life changing decision is made with less thought than planning a vacation?

And NO! I don't know what I will do with you - I've never met you!

I'll respect your Hard Limits, be honest, polite and open. After that? It's all in the chemistry. No amount of mail, chat or phone can take the place of a face to face meeting.

It's sad that so many of these guys are pure wankers - trying to entice you with false promises they can't or won't ever keep. Now I give most any boy a month of chat, and then it's fish or cut bait.

Think I'm the best femDom to come down the pike in your lifetime? Well get off your ass and visit me, cause I've heard it all before.

< Message edited by Madame -- 9/18/2004 6:55:06 PM >

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