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Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 5:53:06 AM   
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 Is there really such thing as switches and if so is it easy for most to be able to switch?  I guess the reason i ask is that my experience just led me to believe that he was never a true switch as he couldnt even bring himself to flog me...said because i was a woman....but yet he has no issue in now serving his owner to the nth degree....so i assume he is just confused about what he really is.  Am i right? Or am i confused???
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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 6:21:31 AM   
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Is there really such thing as switches and if so is it easy for most to be able to switch? 

Nawww we're juat playing pretend.

Yes people really are switches.

For some it's easy, for some it's not.  Same as anything.
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I guess the reason i ask is that my experience just led me to believe that he was never a true switch as he couldnt even bring himself to flog me...said because i was a woman....but yet he has no issue in now serving his owner to the nth degree....so i assume he is just confused about what he really is.  Am i right? Or am i confused???

You're universalizing one persons experiences.  As well think of this- a person who is a dominant, completely identifies as a dominant- may not be able to dominate a specific person, or might come across a submissive who doesn't find them dominant AT ALL.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 6:44:48 AM   
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     Ok, so you met a dud.  Or maybe he is only able to top effectively when he is told to do so and with his owner watching.  Move along.

     Switches are very real.  We wouldn't take the crap we sometimes do from the purists just for the hell of it.

     A Heretic as usual
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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 12:32:27 PM   
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I wouldn't call people that are exclusively submissive or dominant "purists".  More along the lines of traditionalists.

"This is way things have been since they started and there is no sense in trying to be both at the same time." <== Kind of a sum up statement to describe the view of most traditionalists about switches.

I, for one, tend to view it along these lines:

An engineer that designs aircraft engines will most likely never be found actually turning the wrenches that are used on those engines.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 12:37:13 PM   
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Y U P  Truly do ain't life grand?

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 12:40:12 PM   
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Life is far from grand.  It's a disgusting, foul and putrid, but occassionally it does help flowers bloom to improve the landscape, at least until they die and go back to where they came from.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 3:28:17 PM   
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Life is far from grand.  It's a disgusting, foul and putrid, but occassionally it does help flowers bloom to improve the landscape, at least until they die and go back to where they came from.


You must lead one very sad existence, then, 'cause 'round here, even when medical issues and pain f*** up a perfectly good birthday, there's still something worth celebrating.
 
Life IS grand.  For me.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 3:31:26 PM   
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An engineer that designs aircraft engines will most likely never be found actually turning the wrenches that are used on those engines.


Can you explain this analogy?

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 3:56:52 PM   
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I wouldn't call people that are exclusively submissive or dominant "purists".  More along the lines of traditionalists.



     When I refer to "purists", I'm speaking of those who take WIITWD as some sort of religion;  A rigid and puritanical religion where the dogma must remain pure.  It's not my way of describing anybody who identifies as purely one or the other.

    A Heretic as usual
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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 4:39:02 PM   
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 Is there really such thing as switches and if so is it easy for most to be able to switch?  I guess the reason i ask is that my experience just led me to believe that he was never a true switch as he couldnt even bring himself to flog me...said because i was a woman....but yet he has no issue in now serving his owner to the nth degree....so i assume he is just confused about what he really is.  Am i right? Or am i confused???


Yes  there are switches. There are many and many different types..

Umm.. without knowing more about this "he" you speak of.. I can't say for sure if he was a real switch or confused or what?  Maybe he just doesn't like flogging someone?  You know even Dominants have limits.

Maybe he also loved you "too much" .. there has been several threads about that.. where the "Master" suddenly couldn't spank, cane, flog the submissive because they suddenly realized how much they loved that submissive and had a hard time assimilating that love emotion with the causing pain.

He could also have been a wannabe.. and was experimenting with Dominance with you. 

*shrugs* Who knows?

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 7:10:32 PM   
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Thank you everyone for your input it was greatly appreciated

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 7:14:59 PM   
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I too am a switch.  However, I am only one or the other with each person.  I am Master's slave but I adore Topping young men and women.

I am also a sadist and a masochist.

fun all around.

s.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/5/2006 7:52:40 PM   
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The analogy is meant to show the difference between a submissive (wrench turner) and dominant (engineer).

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/7/2006 10:42:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dustyn

I wouldn't call people that are exclusively submissive or dominant "purists".  More along the lines of traditionalists.

"This is way things have been since they started and there is no sense in trying to be both at the same time." <== Kind of a sum up statement to describe the view of most traditionalists about switches.


Just because they have grouped together and opened the doors to BDSM, does not mean that they have 'the' say on how another should be and react to life.

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An engineer that designs aircraft engines will most likely never be found actually turning the wrenches that are used on those engines.

Hmmmm I think that if that engineer gave a versatile wrench turner all the parts to build that plane, that wrench turner can have ideas of his own and just as easily take it all to his fabrication shop and build a boat.



ahhhh I see sounds

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/7/2006 5:27:12 PM   
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Hello --- virgin poster here. Now that the existence of switches is confirmed, I wonder if a discussion is to be had about WHY they exist. So, care to follow me to a new discussion -- I'm starting a new topic on the board.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/7/2006 11:57:32 PM   
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I will openly admit that there are times that I am shocked and amazed that I am still breathing, Evanesce.  Lived through shit that I have no idea how or why, but I did.

Life is how you view it.  I've just come to expect the bottom of the septic tank to be delivered to me with a smile.  Guess I have just seen too much destroyed in the lives around me to not just want to wash my hands of the whole thing from time to time.

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/8/2006 12:12:55 AM   
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"Hmmmm I think that if that engineer gave a versatile wrench turner all the parts to build that plane, that wrench turner can have ideas of his own and just as easily take it all to his fabrication shop and build a boat."

My step father has psent hte last 20+ years in the Air Force as a JEM.  He's worked on everything from T-37s to B-1s and B-2s.  I'd have to ask him to make sure, but I think the only engines that he has never had his fingers in are the newer ones for the Raptor, but then again, he's setting policies now, not just merely following them.

He'll be the first one to admit that while he can probably fix just about anything, and trust me, he's fixed engines that were screwed up from strange things, he would have no clue how to go about designing one.  He understand sthe principles of how the engines work and how the parts go together, but there is very little chance that he could create one from scrap.

Oh, and by the by... QUITTING SMOKING BLOWS GOATS!!!!!!!! *grumble*

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/8/2006 1:37:32 AM   
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Oh, and by the by... QUITTING SMOKING BLOWS GOATS!!!!!!!! *grumble*



You're quitting smoking??  *backs away slowly, and places warning cones all around you with a sign reading "Do Not Poke the Bear"*

*runs and hides*

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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/8/2006 9:27:31 AM   
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Oh, and by the by... QUITTING SMOKING BLOWS GOATS!!!!!!!! *grumble*


LOL!  Not if you have the right motivation, it doesn't. 



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RE: Do they exsist??? - 4/8/2006 9:24:59 PM   
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Not a grumpy bear.  More along the lines of a spazoid with cabin fever. LOL

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