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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 5:03:08 PM   
thishereboi


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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 7:29:51 PM   
afkarr


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Status: offline 		Some guys really get off on the whole Madonna/whore concept; something that's has been written about ad naseum in a plethora of psychological/sexual/kinky tomes, so I won't repeat it. Do I really get off on the whore/slut/ bitch name calling per se? Nope. Do I get off on knowing kinky dude gets off on it? Oh, yeah!

See? It really is part of the whole submission is a gift thingy.....ummmm, and he cherishes me for my gift, uh huh.

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:14:52 PM   
Toppingfrmbottom


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Status: offline 		Who said rape and gang bang fantasies can't be safe sane or consensual? You assume that rape play has to involve being beaten to a pulp, or will be done so unsafely you get a disease. That's just not so. You also assume these women into this will be viewed as worthless sluts, to be whored out, and that's just not automatically true either. I'm cherished and loved and well taken care of, and if he'd consent to loaning me out, ethically and responsibly of course, I'd love it, and it would not make me a worthless slut to be fucked by every one, it'd make me fulfilled in my kink and happy.

And of course my other come back is, that not every one playes by SSC. Some people like RACK Risk aware consensual kink.  Nor does every woman want to be treated like a pampered princess, and if they don't, what do you care?
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ORIGINAL: KitttyMeowX

over half the girls on profiles want to be humiliated raped, gang banged and abused?

What happened to safe sane and consensual? Does love have to come from being beaten to a pulp or getting diseases?What happened to loving the slave and treating them like a prized possession and not a worthless slut to be fucked by everyone?


< Message edited by Toppingfrmbottom -- 4/27/2010 9:16:48 PM >

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:21:14 PM   
Smutmonger


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Status: offline 		Or they want to be the "pampered princess".....but that involves wet diapers, a cage and a sore asshole.

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 who said rape and gang bang fantasies can't be safe sane or consensual? You assume that rape play has to involve being beaten to a pulp, or will be done so unsafely you get a disease. That's just not so. You also assume these women into this will be viewed as worthless sluts, to be whored out, and that's just not automatically true either. I'm cherished and loved and well taken care of, and if he'd consent to loaning me out, ethically and responsibly of course, I'd love it, and it would not make me a worthless slut to be fucked by every one, it'd make me fulfilled in my kink and happy.

And of course my other come back is, that not every one playes by SSC. Some people like RACK Risk aware consensual kink.  Nor does every woman want to be treated like a pampered princess, and if they don't, what do you care?
quote:

ORIGINAL: KitttyMeowX

over half the girls on profiles want to be humiliated raped, gang banged and abused?

What happened to safe sane and consensual? Does love have to come from being beaten to a pulp or getting diseases?What happened to loving the slave and treating them like a prized possession and not a worthless slut to be fucked by everyone?



< Message edited by Smutmonger -- 4/27/2010 9:23:07 PM >

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:27:33 PM   
Toppingfrmbottom


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Status: offline 		LOL well that certainly is a fun double entandre of the term " Pampered Princess"
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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Or they want to be the "pampered princess".....but that involves wet diapers, a cage and a sore asshole.



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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:29:40 PM   
Smutmonger


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

LOL well that certainly is a fun double entandre of the term " Pampered Princess"
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Or they want to be the "pampered princess".....but that involves wet diapers, a cage and a sore asshole.





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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:31:50 PM   
Toppingfrmbottom


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Status: offline 		There you go again. Another fun double:D I laughed out loud and Daddy said what:P

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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

uh huh........"Are you kinky? "It depends."




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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:50:05 PM   
afkarr


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

uh huh........"Are you kinky? "It depends."

quote:

ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

LOL well that certainly is a fun double entandre of the term " Pampered Princess"
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Or they want to be the "pampered princess".....but that involves wet diapers, a cage and a sore asshole.







I just want to be Luv'd and Huggie'd.........

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:51:34 PM   
peppermint


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Status: offline 		I have no idea where you are getting your large numbers from.  I checked a group of 30 submissives and only 2 had any mention of gangbangs and such.  

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:54:50 PM   
Smutmonger


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ORIGINAL: afkarr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

uh huh........"Are you kinky? "It depends."

quote:

ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

LOL well that certainly is a fun double entandre of the term " Pampered Princess"
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Or they want to be the "pampered princess".....but that involves wet diapers, a cage and a sore asshole.







I just want to be Luv'd and Huggie'd.........


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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/27/2010 9:56:32 PM   
Smutmonger


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Status: offline 		Numbers seemed a bit exagerated to me as well-a bit like the Springer show-or Dr Phil.

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

I have no idea where you are getting your large numbers from.  I checked a group of 30 submissives and only 2 had any mention of gangbangs and such.  


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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/28/2010 2:05:24 AM   
Ravensnake


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Status: offline 		Love to be cherished as well in the same relationship. The two aren't mutually exclusive.


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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Of course, because being slapped around,taken down, tied and then ass raped without lube is so romantic! Cherishing is BORING.
 
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Ravensnake

I'm into sex and submission. A sexually dominant partner who takes what he wants in a relationship that borders on abuse but........still consensual.
Weak, submissive guys dont cut it for me, sexually.




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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/29/2010 4:46:03 AM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Not to mention that the rape fantasies rarely involve strangers. The OP is inferring this. Rape fantasies and rape play is almost always between partners with the idea that you don't know it's him. But if a loving partner does grab you, put a knife to your throat, and warn you not to resist while he takes you? Yes it's rape play but it's still your partner even if you don't discover that until afterward.

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/29/2010 10:48:59 AM   
crazyml


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Status: offline 		Rape, humiliation and abuse scenarios can all be done in a safe sane and consensual way. Yes, I do occasionally shudder at the desires expressed by some sub fems (and... it seems.. even more sub males) for hard core physical abuse, but I think in most cases rape/humiliation/abuse play can form part of a sensible relationship..

But it's a horses for courses thing - I personally find the notion of a grown woman "meowing like a kitty" fucking absurd, but that's perfectly OK - it's a mixed community!

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/29/2010 7:46:01 PM   
Kana


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Of course, because being slapped around,taken down, tied and then ass raped without lube is so romantic! Cherishing is BORING.
 
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Ravensnake

I'm into sex and submission. A sexually dominant partner who takes what he wants in a relationship that borders on abuse but........still consensual.
Weak, submissive guys dont cut it for me, sexually.



Ahhh, just be sure to tell her how special she is just before you slap the snot outta her


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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/29/2010 11:23:00 PM   
kuppykake


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Status: offline 		to me, slavery is not about being used.  It's about being useful.  There's a difference.  However, people have their fantasies...to each their own I suppose.  If someone were to ask me why I chose to be a slave, I'd tell them and try to help them learn about it.  It's good to gain knowledge about any subject and try to gain understanding about it, whether you accept/agree with it or not.

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/30/2010 6:16:04 AM   
pegbundy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Of course, because being slapped around,taken down, tied and then ass raped without lube is so romantic! Cherishing is BORING.
 
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Ravensnake

I'm into sex and submission. A sexually dominant partner who takes what he wants in a relationship that borders on abuse but........still consensual.
Weak, submissive guys dont cut it for me, sexually.



Ahhh, just be sure to tell her how special she is just before you slap the snot outta her




And, might I suggest, remember to tell her what a good slut she is after.

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 4/30/2010 8:10:37 AM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		I am one of those work my tail off to the bone, figure out how to make things work, get it done so think it happens easily, .... submissives. No way do I count myself as a slave. But for me BDSM runs more toward resolution and it doesn't matter what path it takes at the time to come to that resolution. If along the way I am having fun . It is important to note that what one person thinks is fun or hot, will not work for all.

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ORIGINAL: kuppykake

to me, slavery is not about being used.  It's about being useful.  There's a difference.  However, people have their fantasies...to each their own I suppose.  If someone were to ask me why I chose to be a slave, I'd tell them and try to help them learn about it.  It's good to gain knowledge about any subject and try to gain understanding about it, whether you accept/agree with it or not.


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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 5/4/2010 10:40:49 AM   
graceadieu


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Status: offline 		I'm not into the "abuse" and "rape" things myself (though a little consensual non-consent play can be hot), but I enjoy verbal humiliation. For some people, these are kinks that can be fun and hot to engage in with a trusted consenual partner.

On the other hand, some of the profiles that talk about those sort things are obviously fake and just looking for some sexy chat. I've seen plenty of profiles that are nothing but "I'm a worthless fuck toy and I want a Master to rape and abuse me and keep me gagged and chained to the wall 24/7 blah blah blah" with some picture they stole off kink.com.

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RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? - 5/4/2010 2:11:41 PM   
DarlingSavage


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Status: offline 		Rape, humiliation, and abuse, OH MY!

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