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"broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:03:22 PM

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I get "wierd mail" on sites like this every so often. I admit that it tempts my predatory side when I initially read about some creature who wants to be "owned and kept as a degraded pet by an extreme sadist."

Usually seems to want me to support it in these happy endeavors as some sort of mooching pet as well.

I stop thinking "fun" at about this point.

Unfortunately I lack the time, patience, and resources......and turn them down.

Seriously.... I won't even keep a dog. If it shits and doesn't pay it's way-it doesn't belong under my roof.

None of these people know me from Adam. Seems more than a little "out there"...just because someone seems to have a modicum of experience. I like "creepy things"..but this is a little too much.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:22:46 PM

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I am deemed broken. I redeem myself by working and letting go of the money. Into safe hands because I can be fairly compulsive.

I do not normally post in the ask a master section but my condition gives me some perspective on the topic at hand.

I do not want to be broken. I want to earn my salt.

I do not want to do things backasswards, I need proper guidance. It may take awhile.

I do not want to be suffering in silence, I wish to be heard and not judged.

I need my medication. My brain is a terrible alchemist and cannot produce enough serotonin.

I am glad I do not own a gun. The main reason was so I would not kill myself. I would have because it would be quick and 'easy'. Pull the trigger click and boom.

It is just that simple.

I am blessed with a brain that I use (too much), and a decent size penis. So you kind of have to take the bad and the good.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:22:52 PM

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So I guess what I don't get is this. How is being a dysfunctional self loathing loser a ticket to a free ride from someone who has thier act together? I thought being a sub in a D/s relationship carried at least a minimal expectation of usefullness?

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:24:57 PM

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It's good that you realize the need to contribute. My interactions are based on positive returns. Too many negatives inevitably result in dismissal.

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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

I am deemed broken. I redeem myself by working and letting go of the money. Into safe hands because I can be fairly compulsive.

I do not normally post in the ask a master section but my condition gives me some perspective on the topic at hand.

I do not want to be broken. I want to earn my salt.

I do not want to do things backasswards, I need proper guidance. It may take awhile.

I do not want to be suffering in silence, I wish to be heard and not judged.

I need my medication. My brain is a terrible alchemist and cannot produce enough serotonin.

I am glad I do not own a gun. The main reason was so I would not kill myself. I would have because it would be quick and 'easy'. Pull the trigger click and boom.

It is just that simple.

I am blessed with a brain that I use (too much), and a decent size penis. So you kind of have to take the bad and the good.

~ME. AHAHAHAHA

ha

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:33:43 PM

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The caged, chained slave in a basement is a very appealing fantasy to me, and i have had offers

but is just that, a fantasy, real life always gets in the way...

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:36:23 PM

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I COULD keep someone in fetish gear all of the time-but she would get really bored crafting leather or metal gear in my shops to pay her way while I was off at the day job. And I am usually too tired to beat someone to hamburger and fuck her asshole for an hour after a nine hour work day.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:36:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

I am deemed broken. I redeem myself by working and letting go of the money. Into safe hands because I can be fairly compulsive.

I do not normally post in the ask a master section but my condition gives me some perspective on the topic at hand.

I do not want to be broken. I want to earn my salt.

I do not want to do things backasswards, I need proper guidance. It may take awhile.

I do not want to be suffering in silence, I wish to be heard and not judged.

I need my medication. My brain is a terrible alchemist and cannot produce enough serotonin.

I am glad I do not own a gun. The main reason was so I would not kill myself. I would have because it would be quick and 'easy'. Pull the trigger click and boom.

It is just that simple.

I am blessed with a brain that I use (too much), and a decent size penis. So you kind of have to take the bad and the good.

~ME. AHAHAHAHA

ha

There's a difference between what you have stated and what, We believe, the OP is talking about. You seem to be willing to take responsibility for your actions... the ones the OP is talking about are wishing to run from their responsibilities and lives. Both seem to have the same outcome: to give up control, but you surrender is through positive intent while the other is through negative. This makes all the difference and deems, in Our eyes, which one is healthy.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:46:29 PM

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So I guess what I don't get is this. How is being a dysfunctional self loathing loser a ticket to a free ride from someone who has thier act together? I thought being a sub in a D/s relationship carried at least a minimal expectation of usefullness?

My use is Her Will. Obedience.
I am a loser. I have experienced loss.
Well that and I would not have any possessions. All of my things are hers.
I do not expect any free rides.
I do not expect anything from anyone.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:49:11 PM

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Thank you for pointing that out Master Fire Ma'am.

It is appreciated.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:58:37 PM

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One of the biggest issues I have had to deal with in D/s since around 1995 was the "sub seeking enabler" routine.

But you get labeled as cruel and heartless when you insist on performance as a needful qualification in a "sub." Which is just astoundingly fine with me-since it keeps useless twits off of my doorstep.

I don't have a problem with someone staying at home while I work-but they need to be working too-not snoozing in a cage, getting fat.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 3:59:25 PM

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i don't understand the point of this thread. Is it just to vent?

We all know that there are people in our realm that seek situations that we are tacitly incompatible with. i get it all the time. i'm not sure the value of beating them up in a public forum though.

One thing i see as an asset in a Master/Owner is compassion, and heart (and for a slave like me, i need that). My two cents.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:02:53 PM

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There is a definite point. It's about making investments with a reasonable expectation of a return.

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i don't understand the point of this thread. Is it just to vent?

We all know that there are people in our realm that seek situations that we are tacitly incompatible with. i get it all the time. i'm not sure the value of beating them up in a public forum though.

One thing i see as an asset in a Master/Owner is compassion, and heart (and for a slave like me, i need that). My two cents.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:05:05 PM

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quote:

I get "wierd mail" on sites like this every so often.

Only every so often? What's wrong with you?

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:07:34 PM

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I get nauseoues trying to write "True dom" stories in the journal section.

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I get "wierd mail" on sites like this every so often.

Only every so often? What's wrong with you?

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:07:46 PM

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But what do you want us to say? Just ok, good point, yes, it's true - because we all know it is, that there are subs out there looking for someone to save them from themselves. And for the record, there are just as many Doms seeking someone to simply abuse.

i just don't see a discussion here.

There are many currencies on this earth other than money. And there are people that trade in all of them. If it isn't one that works for you, then don't trade in it - simple enough.........

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:10:23 PM

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Anything you say here can become a discussion. Try being a little less rigid in your thinking?

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:34:49 PM

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i do think that for a day or a week its fun, an intire life in a cage doing nothing is, in my point a view, rare, and weird... and in the realm os fantasy... i would go crazy...

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:39:23 PM

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So I guess what I don't get is this. How is being a dysfunctional self loathing loser a ticket to a free ride from someone who has thier act together? I thought being a sub in a D/s relationship carried at least a minimal expectation of usefullness?

It's a sad fact that too many who identify as submissive self delude themselves to thinking that by getting claimed/owned by a dominant that it means they have no more personal responsibility to worry about. I mean after all it ain't their problem anymore. Those are the ones who need to be smacked upside the head so they see that being submissive still means you have personal responsibility and no one in their right mind wants to get involved with someone who can't manage their own life and try to fluff that off onto another.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 4:41:14 PM

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When I think "D/s as way of life"..I have a lovely vision of a partner in crime and some fun perversion tossed in. And acceptance. If I degrade another, it shows a real lack in me-if I think that somehow builds my own status.

Thusly, a person approaching me in this manner is taken as an insult. I've done some really horribly controlling and humiliating scenes with subs in my time. But they knew I had to have SOME level of respect for them-or they would not be doing it.

I also have enough self awareness and respect for myself not to allow a self professed "slave" to dictate how I live or think.

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RE: "broken subs" - 4/27/2010 5:30:53 PM

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Pets, the real kind, do pay their way. Not with money but with love. The fact that you see no value in having a companion animal of the four legged kind says a lot about you. None of which is positive in my book.

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