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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 5:34:14 PM   
herfacechair


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I hope your return flight was uneventful.
I still have a couple of questions that you would be in a position to answer.
Currently what is the desertion rate for those in country in general and also specific to your unit?
Second question:
What is the quality of the new recruits being sent to you?


Our brigade is currently in country, and we've had zero desertion/AWOL. Re-enlistment motivation is high... even those that were adamant about getting out ended up re-enlisting. I've got no major complaints about the quality of new privates coming to our unit. But again, we're infantry. Perhaps a POG could give you a different answer.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 6:25:14 PM   
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I hope your return flight was uneventful.
I still have a couple of questions that you would be in a position to answer.
Currently what is the desertion rate for those in country in general and also specific to your unit?
Second question:
What is the quality of the new recruits being sent to you?


Our brigade is currently in country, and we've had zero desertion/AWOL. Re-enlistment motivation is high... even those that were adamant about getting out ended up re-enlisting. I've got no major complaints about the quality of new privates coming to our unit. But again, we're infantry. Perhaps a POG could give you a different answer.



Lt general hurtling says you are full of shit.


http://undertheradar.military.com/2010/03/army-thinks-video-games-made-recruits-soft/

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 6:38:52 PM   
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quit believing the media.


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 6:52:08 PM   
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Thompson,

quit believing the media.


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This general hurtling guy is the general in charge of recruiting and training of recruits. He is not the media.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 6:55:22 PM   
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You have to talk to someone who was actually there.  Not some pencil pusher.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 6:58:57 PM   
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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 7:06:27 PM   
Zevar


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In reading this thread that you began I was reminded of the following:

"Many soldiers are led to faulty ideas of war by knowing too much about too little."
General George Smith Patton, Jr., U.S. Army

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/22/2010 7:16:50 PM   
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Yes- but was he THERE?


You have to talk to someone who was actually there.  Not some pencil pusher.



You might want to read the article and the associated links before you disagree with them.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 6:11:23 AM   
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But this guy is a spokesperson- where as HFC was THERE!

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:07:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		HerFaceChair:  Thanks for your service both there and here on CM, where you're trying to push against a tidal wave of nonsense prepetuated by ONLY a few.  Keep up those spirits.  Don't be discouraged by the rantings of (again) ONLY a few.

Plenty of lurkers.  Maybe there should be a poll, but there's no way to require voters to have read through all 37 pages (as I have just done.)

You are absolutely right when you speak of the "insurgents" pulling tricks such as using kids as decoys/shields.  Tricks such as pretending to be paramedics and firing.  And other examples that could fill a book.  Such actions are against the "Rules of Engagement."  I wish the media would read those and report violations of both sides.  Then we'd get a better picture of the truth of what is happening.

Regards and best wishes.
Keep up the good fight.
Keep up your spirits.
We NEED you there.
I'm glad you choose between there and here.
I think I know what your choice means to you personally and I commend you.

Lance Hughes (who would love to serve, but at 60 years old and on some weird meds doesn't have that option.)





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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:24:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dearest facechair...

I recently bought an airbrush and compressor, which I have yet to receive, I plan on using it to paint fishing lures...Would you sandpaper off the existing paint or use a chemical remover?


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:25:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Fascinating little factoid (and then I MUST leave for work.  I was late yesterday due to CM postings - couldn't tell them the real reason, and I can have only so many flat tires a week. LOL)

In researching "Rules of Engagement,"  I came across this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_military_jurisprudence

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Criteria for soldiering
Muslim jurists agree that Muslim armed forces must consist of debt-free adults who possess a sound mind and body. In addition, the combatants must not be conscripted, but rather enlist of their free will, and with the permission of their family.

Traditionally, "adults" have been defined as post-pubescent individuals above the age of 15.

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Maybe, just maybe, the media could distinguish between a 15 year-old soldier and a 15 year-old civilian in their reportage.  If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, simply say, "Do they even know the difference?"

I'd be fascinated to learn whether the difference is taught at the same time they learn their rules of being there.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:29:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		DomiGuy:

Do NOT remove old paint from lures.  Seriously..... That's akin to re-finishing antique furniture.  And we all know that's a NO-NO.  Well, those of us addicted to The Antique Road Show know that re-finishing can destroy more than half of the $ value.

We now continue with our regularly scheduled jacking.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:31:15 AM   
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So how many have you convinced here?


Has anyone been convinced?



Convinced of what? HFC hasn't said anything that people cant find out for themselves if they take the time to research beyond the MSM, took their ideological blinders off, and formed their opinions based on input from someone other than Jon Stewart and Bill Maher. HFC hasn't said anything that isnt verifiable nor does anyone who bothered to understand the ME need "convincing".

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:35:07 AM   
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Fuck, I was confident he got blowed up. I'm bummed.


Ditto.


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:53:11 AM   
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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 7:55:42 AM   
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DomiGuy:

Do NOT remove old paint from lures.  Seriously..... That's akin to re-finishing antique furniture.  And we all know that's a NO-NO.  Well, those of us addicted to The Antique Road Show know that re-finishing can destroy more than half of the $ value.

We now continue with our regularly scheduled jacking.


You know nothing.

You are not THERE!

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 9:05:56 AM   
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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 9:14:54 AM   
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Dearest facechair...

I recently bought an airbrush and compressor, which I have yet to receive, I plan on using it to paint fishing lures...Would you sandpaper off the existing paint or use a chemical remover?



You are funny!

lol

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 6/23/2010 9:37:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm going to say thank you for your service.

I haven't read the whole thread.  I read the first two pages and picked it up again from the entry as of 6/22.  Normally, I would read the whole thing, but I don't have the time to invest just now.

Here are My questions for you:

I'm a bit confused that you were on leave at the beginning of May and now back in Iraq for what you say is two years.  Am I misunderstanding you to mean that you are now home for two years?  I'm a bit confused about your term of deployment (as far as I know, nobody is being assigned in theater two years) because your leave would only be within a certain timing parameter.  Clear it up for Me, please?

Also, I'd appreciate it if you can save Me the time of reading the whole thread to answer something else.  How do you feel the balance has weighed out during this thread regarding support for the military?  Have you received more comments thanking you for your service than those who are attacking you for it?

How many times during the course of this thread have you wanted to remind folks that, as a member of the military, your first job is to obey your command?  I think people forget that sometimes.  The truth is, even if you didn't believe in what was happening in Iraq, by your oath, that's where you're going to go when you're told.  I'm guessing by the length of the thread, you probably haven't done that, but I'm wondering how many times you wanted to say it?


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