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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:10:31 PM   
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JAS?


He is a liar and a douche.

Not much you can do with this one.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:11:18 PM   
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More vile than she already is? Is that even possible?


Only if I come to Jersey and take lessons from a pro!





Speaking of Aileen. Where the fuck is she these days?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:12:24 PM   
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vincentML: Most I have ever seen you write, PaHunk

Zero multiplied by any amount is still zero.

vincentML: This thread is meant only to provide twists and turns

WRONG. This thread is providing facts to counter the BS the media is force feeding down certain people's throats. Don't mistake my forcing your large horse blinders away from your eyes as my attempting to provide "twists and turns."

vincentML:for the purpose of obfuscating the criminal action of the Outlaw BushCheneyRummyWolfie for planning and instigating the unprovoked and unjustifiable invasion of a sovereign nation in violation of UN Article 51. REPEAT POINT

The United Nations was created to address symmetrical warfare, NOT asymmetrical warfare. The United Nations had no laws that addressed asymmetrical warfare. Our removing Saddam Hussein was an act of asymmetrical warfare. Since the United Nations didn't have any rules covering asymmetrical warfare, there were no rules for us to break; HENCE, we didn't commit an outlaw act.

vincentML: HFC can never justify the needless loss of American/Brit lives and the cost in treasure no matter what his claimed authority as a witness to how the Iraqi children are growing to love the troops.

You DON'T speak for the fallen coalition soldiers in this war. The vast majority of those soldiers died for a cause that they believed in. If you want to get an idea of what they believed in, it's close to what I've argued here. I've thoroughly justified the need for us to fight this battle... one that's a mortal fight where only one option would prevail. There's no "claimed" about my authority on the subject compared to that of the people that I'm arguing against.

It's FACT. My first hand observations makes me more qualified to speak about the subject than you, or anybody else that's debating against me on this thread.

And nowhere in my thread did I utilize, "Iraqi children love" for the troops as a measurement of what we're doing here. I invite you to understand what I've written here, written so that a 5th grader could understand it, instead of pulling crap out of your azz about what I'm doing, my intentions, or what's entailed in my posts.


vincentML: It is just so much blah, blah, blah.

You've summarized the opposition's comments against me nicely.

vioncentML: I urge posters not to play his deceitful game.

You lied about my "not" responding to your post, played a deceitful game with regards to your lies about my "not" responding to you, yet here you are telling people to "not" do what you're accusing me of doing? Not only are a liar who also lacks integrity, you're also a hypocrite.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:13:32 PM   
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It is just so much blah, blah, blah. I urge posters not to play his deceitful game.


You and I agree on so many things but here we differ in the extreme. I feel that posters who find inconsistancies in this poser's position challange him vigorously.
When his mindless ramboesque bullshit is shown for what it is he will be laughed off the board


Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf? Is that you?

Your post has as much "factual validity" as Baghdad Bob's statements had when he claimed that the US military wasn't in Baghdad... after we saw video of them rolling down the streets of Baghdad. OR... is English your second language, one that you happen to be struggling with?

What inconsistencies? I've been consistent on what I've argued on this thread, as well as other threads here and on other message boards. I've gotten to the point to where I've copy and pasted previous responses that I've made on the subject.

Don't mistake the opposition's use of grade school argument tactics as you guys "challenging" me vigorously. What you guys are doing is lobbing BS, pulling strawman arguments, and pulling crap out of your asses vigorously. My posts present the facts, as well as an assessment based on first-hand experience and extensive research. The people that I'm debating with have consistently failed to prove me "wrong."

As for my being in the military, I noticed that you're flapping your pie hole about what I am, after another instance of refusing to accept my challenge. So how about it Baghdad Bob? I'm willing to prove my statement of being in the military. If you've ever served in the military, you wouldn't be dismissing my statements without accepting a related challenge.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:13:40 PM   
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JAS?


He is a liar and a douche.

Not much you can do with this one.


Yes, we knew that 44 pages ago.

So would you you please stop encouraging him by making responses?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:14:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: marie2


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More vile than she already is? Is that even possible?


Only if I come to Jersey and take lessons from a pro!





Speaking of Aileen. Where the fuck is she these days?




They are on vacation. If you go to the "positive experience" thread, you can see the crabs she picked of of her GINORMOUS TWAT!

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:14:16 PM   
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Speaking of Aileen. Where the fuck is she these days?


She's in love, probably nesting somewhere.


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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:14:36 PM   
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JAS?


He is a liar and a douche.

Not much you can do with this one.
May I continue to giggle at least?



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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:15:14 PM   
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It is just so much blah, blah, blah. I urge posters not to play his deceitful game.


You and I agree on so many things but here we differ in the extreme. I feel that posters who find inconsistancies in this poser's position challange him vigorously.
When his mindless ramboesque bullshit is shown for what it is he will be laughed off the board



I understand your pov. Unfortunately he takes you down blind pathways and avoids the major issues IMO. But have at it.


Anybody paying attention to what they're reading, with the intentions of understanding what they're reading, would notice that you're full of it here. Don't mistake my forcing you to see the bigger picture, to see what's actually going on, as my "taking you down blind pathways" and as my "avoiding the major issues."

First, I've addressed your posts, I've replied to them and was on target with my response. Go see my reply to you, and the associated link.

Second, the issue is what I'm arguing, not on what you're trying to bring in.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:16:41 PM   
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I have said this before...If they do it right..When Shore and aileen choose to end their relationship I want to read about it in the paper.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:17:48 PM   
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I have said this before...If they do it right..When Shore and aileen choose to end their relationship I want to read about it in the paper.



In the crime section.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:18:27 PM   
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thompsonx: I am pretty sure he is on the debate team at his high school

One poster on collarchat is listed on my friend's list on facebook. On my "info" page, I've indicated when I graduated high school. So my question is this, "Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is? Are you willing to BET on that statement? Your failure to accept that challenge will speak volumes about the lack of confidence you have about what you say.

thompsonx: and feels he is more than a match for a bunch of old phoques.

First, there's no "feel" about this. Based on the argument that you, and the opposition, has presented, going against you guys is like a major league team going against a bunch of kindergarteners. I mean, my facts against your opinions? It's like stealing candy from a baby.

Second? Phoques? Don't embarrass yourselves by even hinting about your ages here. Your posts don't do justice for people who supposedly have been around and should "know" more or better.


thompsonx: He wanders off into his own little world but I make an effort to focus him.

No, what's happening is that I'm kicking your azz, so instead of taking the honorable course of action, you step to the side and argue another topic. When I pulverize your azz again, you step aside and argue another topic. You utilize shoot and move as well as strawman arguments. Everytime you do this, I've got you in my cross hairs, hammering away at your misconceptions.

thompsonx: He will never address the facts as they are only the factoids he manufactures.

If we exorcise that retarded ghost that's got you possessed, would you start making sense? Or is this a case where English is your second language, and you're struggling with it? Either way, do you see the contradiction of that statement? Are they facts, or are their "factoids" that I "manufacture?"

Here's the next level where your sentence contradicts reality. I've been spitting facts out, so it doesn't make sense that I'd be "avoiding" them. How could I avoid something that's the centerpiece of my replies to the opposition? I guess if it doesn't make sense to the no nonsense guy, it makes "perfect" sense to you.


thompsonx: Lemee see oh yes wmd ...all both of them that did not work

You're deliberately trying to dilute the point. The three instances that I pointed out, chem agents hence WMD, being used against the US coalition, proves wrong the assumption that there were "none" in Iraq. And if they didn't work, the affected troops wouldn't have been medically treated.

thompsonx: justifies invading a soverign nation REPEAT POINT

But, this war was never just about, 9/11, Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, etc. These were the catalyst that got us into a war that was already being waged against the west.

A war that should be called, "The terrorist war to exterminate western civilization and to establish Islamic holy law throughout the world," rather than just, "The war on terrorism." Iraq is/was very much a part of this war, the asymmetrical threat that faced/face us.

Saddam had to be done away with under asymmetrical warfare context. This fact was seen by Bush' predecessor, Clinton, who concluded that regime change had to take place in Iraq. Saddam's removal was a bipartisan conclusion, a conclusion to what both presidents saw as an ultimate threat to the US's security.

"So NO, Iraq was NOT a huge diversion. Under asymmetrical warfare, you do not need to use your own military to attack another nation. You do not even need to send a military over to be an imminent threat. Iraq under Saddam was an asymmetrical threat to the United States. Al-Qaeda had the manpower. They had the martyrdom brigades willing to send suicide bombers to the United States. What is missing is WMD. Something that Saddam HAD and was working on." --herfacechair


thompsonx: and the deaths of what ?? over a hundred thousand human beings REPEAT POINT

Not even close. The source that you're using for that rubbish is one that has faulty research methodologies.

thompsonx: and the destruction of billions of dollars of infrastructure for REPEAT POINT

The vast majority of the infrastructure decay took place as a result of decades of neglect, not because of the US invasion of Iraq. Our entry into Iraq resulted in reversing that trend, and in rebuilding their infrastructure. Though some of their cities have power outages, these outages don't last long. They spend more time with electricity than without... something that couldn't have been said for these same towns prior to the invasion.

thompsonx: haliburton to get paid to rebuild. That hailburton sold off kbr somehow, to him, means that haliburton is no longer in business in iraq. REPEAT POINT

WRONG!

"KBR was working for Halliburton when they carried out logistics services for Iraq in the beginning of the war. Since then, Halliburton and KBR split, with KBR continuing with the services for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Halliburton not being involved with Iraq or Afghanistan. So, if you're a stockholder with Halliburton, and they're not involved with Iraq today, then you're not doing what you insinuate you're doing." --herfacechair

"According to Halliburton, they're not involved with providing logistics services in Iraq." - herfacechair

thompsonx: I particularly like REPEAT POINT

Actually, you like taking me out of context because you know that you don't have an argument,

thompsonx: the position he takes concerning punching out officers whom he does not agree with....roflmao

WHERE, in my posts, do I say that we could smack officers around if we don't agree with their orders? Show me the EXACT words that I used that made you fart that comment out.

Now, let me go reeaal slllooooowww for you...

In that scenario, the officer ordered them to do something. The convoy commander offered up a suggestion, but guess what? THEY ENDED UP GOING. Where, in that scenario, does it state that the officer got knocked around in lieu of the convoy going to another outpost? It wasn't until after they FOLLOWED the officers order that they sustained the casualties, found out that the convoy commander was on the right track with his suggestion, and that they didn't have to sustain those casualties. In that instance, the officer got knocked on his azz after the fact, after his orders were followed.

Again, I offered to get a retard interpreter to simplify what I say so that you could understand it.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:19:59 PM   
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That is your opinion based upon your filters. I do not share your opinion of the thread overall.


That is your opinion based upon your filters and your lack of firsthand experience.


Sooooo, you suggest I believe the OP's questionable first hand experience over the first hand experience of people I have known and trusted for decades?



No, I suggest you clean your filters. OP's first hand experience is obvious, and is consistent with everything coming out of Iraq, except from the MSM.


The op is an idiot and a liar.


Reading your reply to willbeurdaddy’s post is like listening to a 5 year old reply to an adult. Typical child mentality, throw names when one doesn’t have an argument. Thanks for proving Ann Coulter right… again. She’s got you down to a “T.” You’re nothing but a waste of space and oxygen.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:20:53 PM   
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Or on tv...."Snapped"  or "Women in Prison"

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:21:19 PM   
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Oh yeah!!!!!


Only homo's use a blue font!

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:22:44 PM   
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They are on vacation. If you go to the "positive experience" thread, you can see the crabs she picked of of her GINORMOUS TWAT!



Good chirst, is there even room in there for anything else? I heard she carried the luggage up there.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:22:48 PM   
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Or on tv...."Snapped"  or "Women in Prison"



"CHeaters".... HAHAHAHA!

That would be GREAT!

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:25:51 PM   
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Speaking of Aileen. Where the fuck is she these days?


She's in love, probably nesting somewhere.




Yeah, nesting. Right after he fucks her "ass to mouth" with a rusty beer can.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:26:26 PM   
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Who's Ann Coulter? Never heard of her.

I wonder when the last time that the op got some pussy?

Why are so many subby males such bitch ass twats?

Speaking of bitch ass twats it's nice to see marie has pulled herself away from the pizza rolls.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/7/2010 7:27:37 PM   
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Hey hey hey....No picking on the chubby gals.

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