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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 12:12:10 AM

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Yes, I have roleplayed this fetish many times with callers. Sometimes the guy actually wants to get "me" pregnant, sometimes a cuck wants "me" to get pregnant by a man obviously not of his race (so then when he claims it as his own, his humiliation will be obvious to everyone)

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 5:38:06 AM

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(general reply, not directed at anyone in particular.)

i'm not sure what the issue people have with this really is. yes, it's dangerous - just as it's dangerous to have sex on birth control when you AREN'T getting off on the idea of possibly getting pregnant. it's no more or less russian roulette either way, regardless of the fantasy.

my master enjoys this fantasy, as have other men i've been with in the past. it gets me hot every now and then, too. but...we've discussed what would happen if i were to get pregnant, and beyond that, i suspect that i may be infertile and have an iud because i don't want to test that theory just yet, so we do protect against it. practicing safe sex and discussing possible risks and consequences is a necessity whether or not you fantasize about this, and fantasizing about it doesn't make sex any more dangerous.

i'm really not sure where the fire is here, y'all.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 5:51:20 AM

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I don;t get it. People who don't want kids and plan to not have them are fine. People who do want kids and try are fine. What's wrong with getting a charge out of making a woman pregnant?

As long as the kid will get cared for after birth, whats wrong with getting turned on?

Steven, for this to be ok this kind of play could only take place between people in a settled, secure relationship. That way any resulting child would be wanted and cared for. I belive what bothers most people is the chance a child can result from 2 people who are uninterested and incapable of dealing with the result of their kink. (the child)

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 6:17:27 AM

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I don't see why not.

After all if there are steps taken to stop the actual impregnation from occurring if it rocks his boat to think in the moment and build up it "might" happen then more power to him.
I see it as one of the lest painful or offensive kinks out there.
I mean to say..I put it up there with tit fucking and frottage.

As long as there is NO chance of conceiving, then go for it. But if he knows there is no chance of conceiving, what would be the point?

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 6:21:51 AM

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I don;t get it. People who don't want kids and plan to not have them are fine. People who do want kids and try are fine. What's wrong with getting a charge out of making a woman pregnant?

As long as the kid will get cared for after birth, whats wrong with getting turned on?

Steven, for this to be ok this kind of play could only take place between people in a settled, secure relationship. That way any resulting child would be wanted and cared for. I belive what bothers most people is the chance a child can result from 2 people who are uninterested and incapable of dealing with the result of their kink. (the child)

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RE: Seeding & the fantasy of breeding - 5/28/2010 6:36:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: LittleBroken

I wonder if this fetish/fantasy is common place amongst other Doms/Masters?

I know you asked this of dominants, but I would think it would rare rather than common but certainly not unheard of.

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Do you fantasize that your seed may make your sub/slave pregnant when you cum?

From the flip side: I can't get pregnant and at my age, I really wouldn't want to bring another child into this world even if I could - we are able to enjoy the freedom that having little responsibility to anyone but ourselves brings to us however, there is little which would have thrilled me more when I was younger than to have been able to have a child with the man I love. Even though I *knew* I could not get pregnant, that didn't stop me from wishing, hoping and then feeling just a wee disappointed when every month, year after year, I would have my period. I understand the sentiment though and don't think it is at all outrageous.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 6:41:54 AM

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(general reply, not directed at anyone in particular.)

i'm not sure what the issue people have with this really is. yes, it's dangerous - just as it's dangerous to have sex on birth control when you AREN'T getting off on the idea of possibly getting pregnant. it's no more or less russian roulette either way, regardless of the fantasy.

my master enjoys this fantasy, as have other men i've been with in the past. it gets me hot every now and then, too. but...we've discussed what would happen if i were to get pregnant, and beyond that, i suspect that i may be infertile and have an iud because i don't want to test that theory just yet, so we do protect against it. practicing safe sex and discussing possible risks and consequences is a necessity whether or not you fantasize about this, and fantasizing about it doesn't make sex any more dangerous.

i'm really not sure where the fire is here, y'all.

Where the fire is here is that we are talking about the possibility of creating a human being. That is a decision that should come with a great deal of planning and responsibility. Not because it gets you hot. As I said before, there are people out there who identify with this "kink" who are taking it all the way. Not because they are a couple who are committed to each other and have made a decision to bring a new life into this world that they have a desire to nurture and parent, but simply because it turns them on.

It is not what makes people horny that people are taking issue with. It is the possible and sometimes intended outcome, a life that was given no thought other than satisfying a kink for someone. I can remember when I first came on CollarMe. There was a thread (that didn't last very long) from a young woman of about 20 who had gotten mixed up with a group who were into this. She was asking for help because she was on her third pregnancy and she didn't know how to cut herself free from these folks because she had no resources or support system. Her first two pregnancies ended in privacy where she was made to give birth in a home setting without any medical care or attention and her offspring were removed from her within moments of delivery, never to be seen by her again. She didn't want the same to happen with this third impending delivery.

Well, if something like THAT isn't cause for "a fire"....I don't know what is. Is that the "norm" of what this "kink" is about. Thankfully not. But it DOES happen out there.

The choice to create a new life is and should be a very serious decision and shouldn't be hormone or gonad driven.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 6:54:54 AM

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Yes I was (remember he is my EX) chemically protected against pregnancy but still even with him knowing "intellectually" I'm not going to get pregnant from him, cumming inside of me was a huge turn on for him.
He knew when the supposed fertile times of my cycle were suppose to happen and this saw an increased level of his desire.
The fact it wasn't going to happen (impregnation) didn't matter one iota and maybe had a stimulating effect knowing he could indulge this fetish of his without consequence.

I was just wondering just how common this fetish was in Masters/Doms who felt the same way as my Ex.

Errm... no not for me. I admire the chap's ability to suspend disbelief - I wouldn't get much of a lift out of cumming inside a woman who'd taken precautions (and unless she's a long term partner, I'll be takin a few precautions myself thank-ee very much).

I'll be honest, and this is just my view, I'd find "pretend breeding" a little silly. But if it's your bag, then fill your boots but it's just not my cup of tea (to mix metaphors).

[edited to add "but it's just not my cup of tea" in order to add to the comedic effect of mixing "your back" and "your boots"]

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 6:58:41 AM

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i'm not saying that dangerous situations and poor decision making and unplanned pregnancies leading to unwanted and uncared for children don't happen. i'm saying that that is an issue no matter where you go - it has nothing to do with your fantasies or your kinks or whether you're vanilla or bdsm.

my point was that i don't see why people are taking issue with a situation that isn't any more or less dangerous whether or not it is a fantasy for you. safe sex is always an issue, regardless of whether this is a fantasy, and this is frequently a fantasy among non-kinky men, not just among kinky men. i just don't get how this is more dangerous than any other situation dealing with safe sex. if people are responsible, then there shouldn't be a problem with this, imho. if people aren't responsible, then yeah, there's a fire - but it doesn't have anything to do with their fantasies, it has to do with their poor decision making.

and the impression i got from the original post (and the subsequent temper tantrums, at least what i could decipher from them) is that the question pertained to people who are in relationships where safe sex and the risks and consequences have been discussed. because that's the kind of relationship i'm in, that's the position from which i'm responding. of course i've seen more than enough cases of unplanned pregnancies, unsafe sex, and people making bad decisions - and none of them were into this particular fantasy.

i just saw a bunch of people going "birth control is never 100% effective" and "it's like playing russian roulette." well, news flash: even if you don't get off on the fantasy of getting pregnant, birth control is STILL not 100% effective, so you're still playing russian roulette every time you have sex. whether the fantasy is there or not doesn't change that fact.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:23:51 AM

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I just dont understand the outrage or the its so unsafe because of...

I mean by most peoples standards on this thread and opinions expressed.... no one should engage in any kinky play ever.

Because spankings can lead to burst blood vessels,
Fire play first to third degree burns
Knife play -stitches
caning- broken bones
Bondage- circulatory problems
Hell Kissing can lead to Mono.....
And even protected sex can lead to several stds....

And yet on most of the threads about those topics there isnt such scorn and distaste.

From the sounds of the ops posts, she was on a form of birth control that would interrupt her cycle "when i would be most fertile" and those methods are much more effective then the pill or the patch. in fact its only 1 in 100 women on depo prevera and the risks go down the longer you take it.

I understand the idea or concept of bringing in a child with out "thinking" it through. But I know at least 10 couples who had unplanned pregnancies and didnt "love" their child any less because it was an accident. According to some of your posts, I was loved less then someone else because I was conceived by accident on both the patch and my mother being on the pill. And frankly thats just cruel and down right wrong.

Please understand, I know my kink isnt your kink and if this isnt your kink then mention it isnt, and move on.

Op Ive had many approach me with this fantasy, and have engaged in it. I prefer to be "seeded" as you say because of the objectification and the degradation involved. I know the risks of my getting pregnant are very very slim, due to preventions on my part and reproductive problems that I have making the fantasy very hot and primal but stating my minds need to be safe and protected. I assesed the risks had the conversations on the absolute miracle that if it might happen what would be done and i engaged knowing those risks, just like i do with bondage and spankings and canings and every other perverted thing i prefer to engage in....

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:27:49 AM

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I don;t get it. People who don't want kids and plan to not have them are fine. People who do want kids and try are fine. What's wrong with getting a charge out of making a woman pregnant?

As long as the kid will get cared for after birth, whats wrong with getting turned on?

Steven, for this to be ok this kind of play could only take place between people in a settled, secure relationship. That way any resulting child would be wanted and cared for. I belive what bothers most people is the chance a child can result from 2 people who are uninterested and incapable of dealing with the result of their kink. (the child)

How about if it's agreed that the child will be put up for adoption? I realize that that's thinking of the baby as disposable, but the kinksters get their rocks off and the kid gets a loving home.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:36:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I don;t get it. People who don't want kids and plan to not have them are fine. People who do want kids and try are fine. What's wrong with getting a charge out of making a woman pregnant?

As long as the kid will get cared for after birth, whats wrong with getting turned on?

Steven, for this to be ok this kind of play could only take place between people in a settled, secure relationship. That way any resulting child would be wanted and cared for. I belive what bothers most people is the chance a child can result from 2 people who are uninterested and incapable of dealing with the result of their kink. (the child)

How about if it's agreed that the child will be put up for adoption? I realize that that's thinking of the baby as disposable, but the kinksters get their rocks off and the kid gets a loving home.

Steven...if pregnancy results there is always a physical risk to the mother. Also, she can plan on giving the baby up for adoption, but may change her mind (and that is her right) but then the father will be financially responsible for the child. There are many other issues with an unwanted pregnancy as well, so i would say the dude needs to get better control of his rocks.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:38:09 AM

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I just dont understand the outrage or the its so unsafe because of...

I mean by most peoples standards on this thread and opinions expressed.... no one should engage in any kinky play ever.

Because spankings can lead to burst blood vessels,
Fire play first to third degree burns
Knife play -stitches
caning- broken bones
Bondage- circulatory problems
Hell Kissing can lead to Mono.....
And even protected sex can lead to several stds....

Broken blood vessels, burns, stitches, broken bones, circulatory problems, mono and stds are NOT babies. Comparing them as though they are somehow equal is ridiculous.

What the OP is describing here is "pretend breeding". I really do get it. I really can understand it and why it could be very attractive. But it's fantasy play. Just like "play" rape. Just like nazi "play". But we call them play. We don't go around saying I am really into rape or I really get off on the holocaust...we speak of it in terms of play.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:47:01 AM

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I just dont understand the outrage or the its so unsafe because of...

I mean by most peoples standards on this thread and opinions expressed.... no one should engage in any kinky play ever.

Because spankings can lead to burst blood vessels,
Fire play first to third degree burns
Knife play -stitches
caning- broken bones
Bondage- circulatory problems
Hell Kissing can lead to Mono.....
And even protected sex can lead to several stds....

And yet on most of the threads about those topics there isnt such scorn and distaste.

Those activities effect him and myself. A pregnancy is a third human being created. I don't think having a child is the same thing as "circulatory problems".

As for the actual kink: There's a book "Sperm Wars". It's really interesting reading.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:47:23 AM

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My gf is on bc and I still pull out. Not something I want to chance. We are both on the same page about what would go down if it DID occur, but still I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Plus, its much hotter to cum ON someone than IN someone... imo.

Ok, so only a few thousand sperm start swimming instead of a few million. Since only ONE needs to reach an egg.....only a fool would consider that "safe".

Maybe I should substitute the word "father" for fool.......???

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:47:58 AM

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Broken blood vessels, burns, stitches, broken bones, circulatory problems, mono and stds are NOT babies. Comparing them as though they are somehow equal is ridiculous.

But they are high risks and otherwise life altering situations that can end up with permanent consequences. Which is what a child is a permanent consequence of an action you choose to take.

My examples might not equate perfectly but they equate. Each is a risk, everything in life is a risk. Im sure you dont live your life in a plastic bubble and you asses the risks and you decide which to you is logical and acceptable to take and whats not. I understand to you the risk of pregnancy and making a child is not acceptable. But to me that risk is acceptable with my circumstances. Just like someone who has vertigo the risk of suspension is much greater then someone without.

Please remove your emotions from the topic and think of it as any other kink out there, like it is. Some are more risky to people then others if its not your kink Its fine and great and completely understandable, however condemning it because its not your kink is not understandable at all....

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:51:18 AM

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What the OP is describing here is "pretend breeding". I really do get it. I really can understand it and why it could be very attractive. But it's fantasy play. Just like "play" rape. Just like nazi "play". But we call them play. We don't go around saying I am really into rape or I really get off on the holocaust...we speak of it in terms of play.

i thought the op's use of the words fantasy and fetish made it pretty clear she was speaking of it in terms of play.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:52:32 AM

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My Ex Master had a real fetish for the whole idea of releasing his seed inside of me during my most fertile time of the month.
It seriously was hard core and was one of his pet fetishes that his seed "might" make me pregnant (though it wasn't ever going to happen).

I wonder if this fetish/fantasy is common place amongst other Doms/Masters?

Do you fantasize that your seed may make your sub/slave pregnant when you cum?

I don't know about the dudes, lady bug, but I do know that when I'm "fertile" I am very... shall we say... "DO ME and DON'T BOTHER TELLING ME YOUR NAME" for about two days. I'm very careful during those two days... as in I make sure I don't have more than a glass of wine with dinner and I *sure* don't drink tequilla. I've been known to um... well... pass out kisses. Yes, that's it. Passing out kisses. Back in the day. I'm much more demure now.

Lady Bug, are you busy next month?

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 7:53:07 AM

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My gf is on bc and I still pull out. Not something I want to chance. We are both on the same page about what would go down if it DID occur, but still I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Plus, its much hotter to cum ON someone than IN someone... imo.

Ok, so only a few thousand sperm start swimming instead of a few million. Since only ONE needs to reach an egg.....only a fool would consider that "safe".

Maybe I should substitute the word "father" for fool.......???

and it only takes a tiny volt of electricity to cause a heart attack so you better get off your computer now, It only involves one bite of contaminated food to cause food poisoning so you should never eat again..

I understand the topic is one of emotion for most of you, but there is risk to every thing in the world we do. Some is more or less likely to end in harm. And the constant "oh my god the worlds going to end if anyone whos ever engaged in this ever gets pregnant from the act" is well its sad and its depressing that people think with such an outlook with life.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 8:05:16 AM

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Please remove your emotions from the topic and think of it as any other kink out there, like it is. Some are more risky to people then others if its not your kink Its fine and great and completely understandable, however condemning it because its not your kink is not understandable at all....

I'm not really sure where that whole "Your kink is not my kink but that's ok" thing started but....just because I'm an active member of the kink world does NOT mean that I have to be tolerant of everything someone brings to the table and it does NOT mean that I can't express an opinion on it. If someone came on here and said that they were really into pedophilia would you think that we should be tolerant and silent about that too?

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