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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 8:21:21 AM   
SpiritedRadiance


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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I'm not really sure where that whole "Your kink is not my kink but that's ok" thing started but....just because I'm an active member of the kink world does NOT mean that I have to be tolerant of everything someone brings to the table and it does NOT mean that I can't express an opinion on it. If someone came on here and said that they were really into pedophilia would you think that we should be tolerant and silent about that too?

A well played tatic but one that will not work, theres a difference between one commiting a crime and one acting in the way of kink. I ask for tolerence and i ask for understanding the way anyone would ask when being condemed for enjoying or liking something someone else may not like. Abusing small children is wrong. However having sexual relations with someone within their countries age of consent limitations is fine for those involved and those who wish to participate. Do I have opinions of the topic? Yes I do. Are they savory opinions? No they are opinions of distaste, however its not my opinion thats being asked with this topic of conversation. Its being asked have I run into or have i engaged in this play? Yes I have. Is it asking what you think about pregnancy? No it is not. Is it asking your opinion on unplanned pregnancy? No it is not.

You have expressed your opinion however if someone came on the board talking about pedophiles, a moderator would remove the thread due to it being against the terms of service.

This topic is in no way illegal or a crime or against the terms of service.  You have expressed that you dont think people should have this kink, I can express I dont think you should be allowed to engage in soap making because of insert silly reason based on emotion here.

Your quotes below your posts speak of something much different then the content of your post.

How about we agree that if the op gets knocked up, she shouldn't bitch about it, however its her choice to play on the tracks.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 8:29:32 AM   
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For the record, I have not once said that I felt that people should not have the kink the OP describes. I have pointed out the difference between what she is describing and another aspect of this that other people engage in....and yes, my opinion on THAT aspect is very different.

I wonder if I were to say that MY kink is to voice opinions on other's kinks....would that make it okay then? I mean afterall, if you preach that kind of tolerance than you'd have to just accept it right?

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 8:37:25 AM   
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I apologize, I was reading thinking of a different posters comments.

If if is your kink to offer opinions on another's kink, good for you enjoy and i shall keep my opinions of unfavorable light to myself.

My main issue I guess is it seems like a waste of energy and ones time, to only say over and over, in simple terms your an idiot for liking this, instead of just moving on to a topic that would be better energy to spend.

But then if those choose to waste energy then I guess thats their choice now :(

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 8:43:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domcypher

My gf is on bc and I still pull out. Not something I want to chance. We are both on the same page about what would go down if it DID occur, but still I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Plus, its much hotter to cum ON someone than IN someone... imo.



Ok, so only a few thousand sperm start swimming instead of a few million.  Since only ONE needs to reach an egg.....only a fool would consider that "safe".

Maybe I should substitute the word "father" for fool.......???




He said that his girlfriend is ON birth control, and even at that he doesn't cum inside her.

How does that make him a "fool"?

Barring abstinence, how much more precaution can you take than that?



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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 9:22:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I don;t get it.  People who don't want kids and plan to not have them are fine.  People who do want kids and try are fine.  What's wrong with getting a charge out of making a woman pregnant?

As long as the kid will get cared for after birth, whats wrong with getting turned on?



Steven, for this to be ok this kind of play could only take place between people in a settled, secure relationship. That way any resulting child would be wanted and cared for. I belive what bothers most people is the chance a child can result from 2 people who are uninterested and incapable of dealing with the result of their kink. (the child)

i agree. AND why bring more unwanted children into the world when there are so many already. There are a lot of unwanted kids/"accidents" already waiting in foster homes, etc. Why add to that issue?

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 9:45:01 AM   
January


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He said that his girlfriend is ON birth control


Look, I hate to bring real life into this, but saying you're on birth control and actually being on birth control are not always the same thing.

There are plenty of accidents due to "forgetting" just that one day, or "knowing" one is infertile, or "I forgot to fill the prescription", and less accidental, more selfish, reasons for failing to really be on birth control.

I'm not saying that's true for any couple on this thread, but claiming you're on birth control doesn't equal safety.

So, I agree with those who believe that particular kink is risking bringing in a possible innocent party. Which makes it irresponsible--no matter how much the couple thinks they've planned for an accident.

January



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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 10:06:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: marie2


quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

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ORIGINAL: domcypher

My gf is on bc and I still pull out. Not something I want to chance. We are both on the same page about what would go down if it DID occur, but still I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Plus, its much hotter to cum ON someone than IN someone... imo.



Ok, so only a few thousand sperm start swimming instead of a few million.  Since only ONE needs to reach an egg.....only a fool would consider that "safe".

Maybe I should substitute the word "father" for fool.......???




He said that his girlfriend is ON birth control, and even at that he doesn't cum inside her.

How does that make him a "fool"?

Barring abstinence, how much more precaution can you take than that?





My point was his statement that pulling out right before ejaculating guaranteed "safe".  It does not.  Even with the gf on bc.  SafER, maybe, but not much.  Safe, no.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 10:06:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: January

quote:

He said that his girlfriend is ON birth control


Look, I hate to bring real life into this, but saying you're on birth control and actually being on birth control are not always the same thing.

There are plenty of accidents due to "forgetting" just that one day, or "knowing" one is infertile, or "I forgot to fill the prescription", and less accidental, more selfish, reasons for failing to really be on birth control.

I'm not saying that's true for any couple on this thread, but claiming you're on birth control doesn't equal safety.

So, I agree with those who believe that particular kink is risking bringing in a possible innocent party. Which makes it irresponsible--no matter how much the couple thinks they've planned for an accident.

January


how is that different from any other couple who says they are on birth control and has sex?

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 1:22:07 PM   
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LittleBroken,

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I wonder if this fetish/fantasy is common place amongst other Doms/Masters? Do you fantasize that your seed may make your sub/slave pregnant when you cum?


I've been with men that took pleasure in the idea of impregnating me. Once I got beyond the reality of being pregnant I could enjoy the fantasy and the pleasure it brought.

However...

My understanding of breeding is markedly different than what you've presented. I wanted to be fair and respond in kind because you did explain your interpretation later on. But for what it's worth I've heard it's usual meaning applied from more than one person. I'm really not bothered in all truth. I probably should be. I'm fertile and able to conceive. But there are glaring realities I can't ignore. I date men without children. The majority have never been married. At this point if they desired a child they're well equipped to make one.

There are two types of breeding and I haven't read all the posts so forgive me if this is redundant. The roulette style takes a gamble. They deal with the consequences if it happens. The risk is part of the enticement. The intentional sort do this with the goal of impregnation. They usually have an arrangement with the other source where the child is concerned. Unless for whatever reason they opt to keep it. This is the variety I've encountered. I have a child. She's 19. Barring something catastrophic I'm sincerely done.

But I'm a slave. The onus is on me to make certain that I don't choose someone that desires this unless I'm willing to play along. That's all I have to say. Enjoy your kink. :)

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 2:33:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

What the OP is describing here is "pretend breeding". I really do get it. I really can understand it and why it could be very attractive. But it's fantasy play. Just like "play" rape. Just like nazi "play". But we call them play. We don't go around saying I am really into rape or I really get off on the holocaust...we speak of it in terms of play.


So the outrage this topic has conjured is to do with semantics??

The OP said she used protection, that her ex got a buzz out of the idea but that they were careful not to end up accidental parents....She wasn't specific about the duration of the relationship so it may have been fleeting, in which case they're both kind of upping the stakes here.... But to presume that safely indulging their kink makes them irresponsible is a leap I'm just not getting.

Surely any fertile individuals who engage in any vaginal penetration during roughly day 10-17of her cycle should be lumped into the same 'irresponsible' bracket?

Like I said, this kink is not one that sets me moaning, but there's no greater or lesser chance of a resulting pregnancy than any straight or kinky activities that result in sex between fertile humans.

This thread is starting to feel like a bunch of people in glass houses who've just bought some nice, shiny stones off eBay...unless all the people who've pooh-poohed it are all celibate, unable to conceive or only engage in oral or anal sex...?

And I think the attempt to suggest, albeit obtusely, that this kink is comparable to paedophilia was a seriously low blow.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 3:34:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mugwump

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

What the OP is describing here is "pretend breeding". I really do get it. I really can understand it and why it could be very attractive. But it's fantasy play. Just like "play" rape. Just like nazi "play". But we call them play. We don't go around saying I am really into rape or I really get off on the holocaust...we speak of it in terms of play.


So the outrage this topic has conjured is to do with semantics??

The OP said she used protection, that her ex got a buzz out of the idea but that they were careful not to end up accidental parents....She wasn't specific about the duration of the relationship so it may have been fleeting, in which case they're both kind of upping the stakes here.... But to presume that safely indulging their kink makes them irresponsible is a leap I'm just not getting.

Surely any fertile individuals who engage in any vaginal penetration during roughly day 10-17of her cycle should be lumped into the same 'irresponsible' bracket?

Like I said, this kink is not one that sets me moaning, but there's no greater or lesser chance of a resulting pregnancy than any straight or kinky activities that result in sex between fertile humans.

This thread is starting to feel like a bunch of people in glass houses who've just bought some nice, shiny stones off eBay...unless all the people who've pooh-poohed it are all celibate, unable to conceive or only engage in oral or anal sex...?

And I think the attempt to suggest, albeit obtusely, that this kink is comparable to paedophilia was a seriously low blow.

x






Just where the heck did I say that the OP or others that share in HER or HER Ex's kink (pretend breeding) are irresponsible??? It would seem that you also seem to have some sort of comprehension deficit going on here.

What I did point out was that the term "Breeding" also refers to people who are not practicing it with any thought or care of responsibility as viable pregnancy IS their only goal and not because they have any desire to actually be a parent but simply because they want to get their rocks off.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/28/2010 5:27:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LittleBroken

My Ex Master had a real fetish for the whole idea of releasing his seed inside of me during my most fertile time of the month.
It seriously was hard core and was one of his pet fetishes that his seed "might" make me pregnant (though it wasn't ever going to happen).

I wonder if this fetish/fantasy is common place amongst other Doms/Masters?

Do you fantasize that your seed may make your sub/slave pregnant when you cum?




I had a boyfriend who loved the idea. I was verrrrrrrrrrrrry careful with him.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 5/29/2010 1:18:29 PM   
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Hard to believe, but this is a topic that I've never made any posts on until now.

If it's with somebody I'm really into, I'm very much drawn to breeding with 'em. It seriously does turn me on to think about it. However, like I said it has to be somebody that I think/feel that way about.

Ironic, there's been a few women I've dated or seen the in the past, where the very thought of knocking them up was a turn off or scarey. Needless to say, those cases I kept it my pants and put the brakes on seeing them again. (the complete opposite effect of it being a hot fantasy).

The word 'seeding', I don't find very sexy. "Breeding with" I find that hotter compared to other words. Then again, if it's with somebody I'm not into, the thought is anything but hot it becomes a major turn-off.

So it all depends upon who for me.

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 1/26/2011 11:45:17 PM   
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Don't listen to the buzzkills here; spread your legs wide and take the seed at the height of your fertility. Live a little...

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RE: Seeding/Breeding - 1/27/2011 12:11:10 AM   
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Please refrain from thread necromancy. If it has been longer than 6 months since the last response, please start a new thread and link to the old one.
This thread is now locked.

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