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Those two seem like very different slaves. One is clingy, desperate, eager to throw her neck throw whatever collar is held before them, the other is someone who perhaps never imagined herself bending her knee to a man until she met HIM. Frankly why anyone would want the former escapes me and it is the latter that intoxicated me, to be the one man among many who could inspire such from a woman with few equals.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine
It is interesting how the second type is often derided by some. To the point where her inability to kneel for all save one is considered a character defect.

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Actually, both types are derided by various people. It's all a part of the "who's the truest slave" game.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

SimplyMichael,

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Those two seem like very different slaves. One is clingy, desperate, eager to throw her neck throw whatever collar is held before them, the other is someone who perhaps never imagined herself bending her knee to a man until she met HIM. Frankly why anyone would want the former escapes me and it is the latter that intoxicated me, to be the one man among many who could inspire such from a woman with few equals.

It is interesting how the second type is often derided by some. To the point where her inability to kneel for all save one is considered a character defect.

~porcelaine

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We all deride something, Leadership527 posts on a bdsm board telling us how he isn't into bdsm. I post in the hopes of felling windmills. But where some see a glorious bitch, I see a woman worth taming. To each their own!

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We all deride something, Leadership527 posts on a bdsm board telling us how he isn't into bdsm. I post in the hopes of felling windmills. But where some see a glorious bitch, I see a woman worth taming. To each their own!

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
We all deride something, Leadership527 posts on a bdsm board telling us how he isn't into bdsm. I post in the hopes of felling windmills. But where some see a glorious bitch, I see a woman worth taming. To each their own!

To be fair, I've come a long way in my understanding of BDSM since when you and I first met... a long, long way. It's been a long time since I derided it. I still see only partial overlap with me but I'm pretty neutral on the topic overall.. "it works for some people.. wonderful"

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SimplyMichael,

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Those two seem like very different slaves. One is clingy, desperate, eager to throw her neck throw whatever collar is held before them, the other is someone who perhaps never imagined herself bending her knee to a man until she met HIM. Frankly why anyone would want the former escapes me and it is the latter that intoxicated me, to be the one man among many who could inspire such from a woman with few equals.

It is interesting how the second type is often derided by some. To the point where her inability to kneel for all save one is considered a character defect.

~porcelaine

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There is a movie made from a book "Of human bondage" that answers nicely for me what slavery is and it's really simple it is someone that wants/needs the other person and the relationship so much that they will do most anything to preserve it.

With this definition a person can be a slave in one relationship and never again, also the type of relationship has little importance to the fact of slavery

Now there are those that will seek out this type of relationship above all others, they may have an inherint need to sort of enslave themselves to someone.

The object of their need may or may not enhance or exploit the need of the enslaved and it may not matter for the outcome to be the same.

Hell some people enslave themselves to inanimate objects, can you say idol?

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Just a personal observation over time..I've seen more than one person go after females that they thought needed taming only to find out after they had "Conquered" them..The thrill was gone.

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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
Just a personal observation over time..I've seen more than one person go after females that they thought needed taming only to find out after they had "Conquered" them..The thrill was gone.

Or find that while he can conquer her in part... she still has a spirit that he can never fully posses.
And then turn the thing he claimed to find most attractive at first into a fault of hers while he walks away.

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SimplyMichael,

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Those two seem like very different slaves. One is clingy, desperate, eager to throw her neck throw whatever collar is held before them, the other is someone who perhaps never imagined herself bending her knee to a man until she met HIM. Frankly why anyone would want the former escapes me and it is the latter that intoxicated me, to be the one man among many who could inspire such from a woman with few equals.

It is interesting how the second type is often derided by some. To the point where her inability to kneel for all save one is considered a character defect.

~porcelaine

We all deride something, Leadership527 posts on a bdsm board telling us how he isn't into bdsm. I post in the hopes of felling windmills. But where some see a glorious bitch, I see a woman worth taming. To each their own!

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Or find that while he can conquer her in part... she still has a spirit that he can never fully posses.
And then turn the thing he claimed to find most attractive at first into a fault of hers while he walks away.

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Interestingly, I see the first type derided more often than the second.  Perhaps it depends on the place from which we view.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

Sometimes the things that others demean are aspects of themselves they're unable to accept.

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Sometimes the things that others demean are aspects of themselves they're unable to accept.

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I absolutely agree with this.  I have lived it.  On the flip side, I find when I feel particularly defensive about something someone says, it's time to examine within.

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1. Now there are those that will seek out this type of relationship above all others, they may have an inherent need to sort of enslave themselves to someone.

2. With this definition a person can be a slave in one relationship and never again, also the type of relationship has little importance to the fact of slavery

Those two seem like very different slaves. One is clingy, desperate, eager to throw her neck through whatever collar is held before them, the other is someone who perhaps never imagined bending her knee to a man until she met HIM. Frankly why anyone would want the former escapes me and it is the latter that intoxicated me, to be the one man among many who could inspire such from a woman with few equals.