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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 5:13:05 PM   
Rochsub2009


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I dont see it as a passive act.  If *I* saw a guy kneeling and putting on a ladies shoes for her, and he did not have a name tag on indicating he worked there, I would go ewww.  But, like I said, I admit to being a prude about some things.

Yeah, on that one, you probably are being a bit of a prude.  This one has not a thing to do with BDSM.


I know LP.  I am good with being a prude. 


See, that's the problem that i have with this question, and frankly, with most of your replies.  Who is to determine what is "offensive"?  "Offensive" is in the eye of the beholder.  It's totally subjective.  So must i really live my life trying to avoid any action that has the slightest possibility of offending even one person?

People seem to be far too politically correct (At least in the US.  i can't say whether this phenomenon is occurring outside of the US).  It's like a disease, and it's spreading without any sign of slowing down.  And it makes me sick.

People seem to be afraid to offend anyone.  The needs of the one seem to outweigh the needs of the many.  It's just the way the P.C. movement is going. 

Frankly, there are things in our society that are far worse than someone helping his Mistress put on her shoes in a store.

i see people texting while driving every single day.  That's dangerous, but i see it daily.  i see people smoking everyday.  That can have an impact on MY health, but i can't stop them.  People drive by with the music in their car playing WAY TOO LOUD, but i can't stop them.  People walk around with horrible body odor, but i can't do anything about it.  People do things every second of every day that harm the environment that we all share, but i am powerless to stop them.  These things offend me, but i manage to deal with it.

My point is that there are lots of things in life to be offended by.  Some of them are actually dangerous, and some of them are just a matter of personal tastes.  IMO, if it's not hurting anyone else, then mind your $%#& business.

i don't see why it is politically incorrect for a couple that is deeply in love to show a public display of affection.  Who are they hurting?  Get over it already!

There are prudish and overly-religious folks who find that seeing a gay couple in public is very offensive (even if they're not showing any type of PDA).  i think those people  are being judgmental pricks who need to mind their own business.  The gay couple isn't hurting anybody.

Frankly, i happen to be a bit of an exhibitionist.  i enjoy public submission.  No, i don't mean being flogged at the grocery store.  Most of the things that i do look like vanilla acts of chivalry.  For example, i love carrying my Mistress' bags in the mall.  i love opening doors for Her.  i love having Her order my food at a restaurant.  i love having to walk a few steps behind Her when W/we are out in public.  Someone might guess what is going on, but i don't really care.  i'm not hurting them in any way.

There are other things that i've done that have been far more blatant.  So what?!  Who did it hurt?  For example, i've had a Mistress force me to wear women's panties when i went to the gym.  Too public for some?  Probably.  Do i care?  No.

i've had a Mistress slap me in the face in public because She felt that i did something that was unacceptable.  Might someone have looked and felt offended by that?  Possibly.  Do i care?  Not really.

There are soooooo many things that are more dangerous (and frankly, more important) than a public display of D/s.  As long as i am not breaking any laws, and am not doing anything that is endangering others, then i really don't care what anybody thinks. 

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 5:50:51 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		In my day, back when people had class and were not as crass as the people posting in this thread, we had manners and knew what was appropriate in public.

Talking about our relationships, not to mention sexual topics in public would have gotten you shunned from polite society. Sadly, those of my ilk have been pushed aside by mods of low class heathens who think writing about private topics in public is something a person of decent lineage would indulge in.

Shame on the lot of you.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 5:54:58 PM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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I will do what I want in Public, If you don't like it that doesn't bother me in the very least.

I got the same rights anyone else does.

If you do not like what I am doing .... Look Elsewhere.

As my Brother would say, Joke um if they can't take a Fuck.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:27:35 PM   
DommeKeliDallas


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Status: offline 		Yes. I agree with you.
Dungeon play should remain in the dungeon.
Holding hands is appropriate, kissing...etc...

Walking a tranny down the street while he is warring a leash and a pink poodle skirt is NOT appropriate,

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:36:02 PM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		I know.. ewwww... it is so inappropriate for one person to do anything for another.  Never pick up someones dropped bag..never help them on with their shoes, omg.. what kind of world would this be if people went around doing stuff for others if they weren't getting paid for it!

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but you have no way of knowing that no one is noticing and thinking ewwwwww.


And because of that, this is their issue, not mine.  If someone chooses to take a passive personal act and make it into their issue, that's on them.

I dont see it as a passive act.  If *I* saw a guy kneeling and putting on a ladies shoes for her, and he did not have a name tag on indicating he worked there, I would go ewww. 

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:48:13 PM   
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Yes. I agree with you.
Dungeon play should remain in the dungeon.
Holding hands is appropriate, kissing...etc...

Walking a tranny down the street while he is warring a leash and a pink poodle skirt is NOT appropriate,


TNG groups form because they don't want to see fat middle aged women wearing corsets that are two sizes too small lifting the fat tire of an overweight balding man to torment his cock.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:55:20 PM   
Rochsub2009


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In my day, back when people had class and were not as crass as the people posting in this thread, we had manners and knew what was appropriate in public.

Talking about our relationships, not to mention sexual topics in public would have gotten you shunned from polite society. Sadly, those of my ilk have been pushed aside by mods of low class heathens who think writing about private topics in public is something a person of decent lineage would indulge in.

Shame on the lot of you.



Yes, it's an outrage, isn't it? 

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:58:06 PM   
SimplyMichael


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

In my day, back when people had class and were not as crass as the people posting in this thread, we had manners and knew what was appropriate in public.

Talking about our relationships, not to mention sexual topics in public would have gotten you shunned from polite society. Sadly, those of my ilk have been pushed aside by mods of low class heathens who think writing about private topics in public is something a person of decent lineage would indulge in.

Shame on the lot of you.



Yes, it's an outrage, isn't it? 



While I believe in a certain level of decorum....we all offend someone at some point. The trick is finding a reasonable balance and understanding that your standards just might not be universal...

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:59:10 PM   
Rochsub2009


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Yes. I agree with you.
Dungeon play should remain in the dungeon.
Holding hands is appropriate, kissing...etc...

Walking a tranny down the street while he is warring a leash and a pink poodle skirt is NOT appropriate,



Ahhhhh, i see.  So you are the Appropriateness Police.  Glad to know that.  Now i know where to send my inquiries when i'm not sure what is appropriate and what isn't. 

BTW, are ALL types of kisses appropriate, or only certain types of kissing?  Also, is only heterosexual kissing allowable, or is homosexual kissing permitted in public?  Just curious. 

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 7:59:11 PM   
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In my day, back when people had class and were not as crass as the people posting in this thread, we had manners and knew what was appropriate in public.

Talking about our relationships, not to mention sexual topics in public would have gotten you shunned from polite society. Sadly, those of my ilk have been pushed aside by mods of low class heathens who think writing about private topics in public is something a person of decent lineage would indulge in.

Shame on the lot of you.

I don't know whether to scold you for making My eyes roll so far back in My head over this comment or give you crap for making Me laugh so hard that diet pepsi almost came out My nose.


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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:06:00 PM   
Rochsub2009


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While I believe in a certain level of decorum....we all offend someone at some point. The trick is finding a reasonable balance and understanding that your standards just might not be universal...



Exactly!  The line in the sand for "appropriateness" is going to be located in a different place for each individual.  It's totally subjective.  It is arrogant to think that one's own line is also the universal measure.  i'm surprised that some people don't get that. 

It's likely that none of us thinks its appropriate to give someone else oral sex in public.  Most of us agree on the blatant violations like that.  But it is the subtler, and more common things that make up the grey areas.  The black and white is fairly obvious to most of us.  But who is the final judge of the grey?  20% of the activities lie in the black and white areas.  80% is grey.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:12:11 PM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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Status: offline 		Hey tomorrow I'm going to camp in front of someones house and Sodomize a Puppet...... Is that Appropriate or not?

Like I said, I could give a fuck what anyone thinks if I want to do it then I really don't fucking care what you think of it. It isn't my responsibility to make you comfortable just like it isn't my responsibility to make sure everyone is okay with me before i just be myself.

Kiss in front of me (Homo or Hetro)
Be Nude in front of me (Male of Female)
Fuck In front of me (Homo or Hetro)
Swear in front of me
talk politics in front of me
talk religion in front of me

Do anything you want in front of me if I don't like it I'LL LEAVE, if it's abusive and Illegal I'LL PRESS CHARGES thems the risks.

Some people say "Well what about if you have children?" guess what I do, and if I don't like what he's seeing.... I can take him elsewhere.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:12:25 PM   
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i think holding hands, kissing, and NOT-lewd hugs are okay in public, but i don't think sexual displays should take place there. As far as bdsm play goes, i think it should be either in private or in dungeons, ect, that are there for that purpose. By being there, the people present have consented to being around that sort of activity. i don't think it's okay to subject unsuspecting vanillas or others to things they haven't consented to be around. Consent is big w/ me. This probably makes me look like a prude to some and crude to others, but oh well. All that being said, i have worn my collar in public, but nowadays most people around here don't freak about things like that.

~sweetsub~

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:12:43 PM   
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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:24:21 PM   
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I feel very strongly that what goes on between 2 people should remain private.


I agree with you. It was bound to happen ;-)

That said, if people want to play publicly, in a private club of course, who am I to stop them?

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:24:21 PM   
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I don't know whether to scold you for making My eyes roll so far back in My head over this comment or give you crap for making Me laugh so hard that diet pepsi almost came out My nose.



Suffer bitch? Merc has taught me that opportunities for sadistic amusment are all around us!

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:26:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas

Yes. I agree with you.
Dungeon play should remain in the dungeon.
Holding hands is appropriate, kissing...etc...

Walking a tranny down the street while he is warring a leash and a pink poodle skirt is NOT appropriate,


You've obviously never been to The Castro! ;-)

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:32:21 PM   
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Walking a tranny down the street while he is warring a leash and a pink poodle skirt is NOT appropriate,


AMEN!

Jeez, some people have no class or decency.

I mean, PINK with leather??? What sort of savages are these???

Now, a cute little Catholic school outfit, I could see.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:33:05 PM   
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This topic is always something people have opinions on one far side or the other, and not likely that a consensus will be had.

For me personally I think playing in public is rude. I don't however think having someone put your shoes on, kissing, joking, a swat on the ass or other innocuous contact is "play". I will innocently mess around with a partner/date in public, I will not expose others to kink.

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RE: Public or Private Displays. - 6/7/2010 8:33:46 PM   
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I like the "Grandmother" rule. If you would not Do it or Say it in front of your Grandmother, then do not do it or say it in public. But I guess there is always the 1 wild and crazy Grandmother



But once again, even grandmothers have changed.  These days, many "grandmothers" are 33 years old and still go to nightclubs.  They wear belly shirts and low-rise jeans.  They cuss like sailors and spend more time text messaging than actually talking on the telephone.

So which "grandmothers" are we to use as the prototype?

The 1950's are over.  Welcome to the 21st century.

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