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RE: Learning to trust again, after being hurt - 4/18/2006 11:42:43 AM   
LoupdeMontagne


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ORIGINAL: tieyou

All girls cheat and lie.  It's in their nature.  No matter how convincing they are, don't believe them.  They will trade you in for a new improved model in a heart beat.  You have to adopt a cold, unforgiving attitude with women.  If she tells you some bullshit story, investigate it.  Ask for times, dates, receipts, bus tickets, ect.  If she don't like it, tell her to fuck off.




Wow..welcome to the boards. How did you get to this state of mind about women? Sounds like you've been hurt pretty badly.


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RE: Learning to trust again, after being hurt - 4/18/2006 11:46:39 AM   
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love the 2 rules

this one offered herself as an open book to Master/Mistress, yet this one no doubt has the trust issues not the other way around.
go figure ,
yet in opening up as she did, knowing that her Owners would see the good, the bad and the ugly it made this one feel safer....*
shrugs and smiles*
for they keep her despite her shortcomings and see what is in her heart and mind....

the past is just what it is, the past.....so it has no place causing worries in the future.

if one has a foot in the past and a foot in the future then they piss all over today....

PS good luck


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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix


The thing is, he didn't see it as "proving" himself to me. He saw it like "She has an issue. My doing this might help her as she's working through this issue, so I'm going to do what I can to help."
He had the insight that it wasn't *him specifically* I had distrust in. It was *anyone* who happened to be in his role. He just happened to be the one filling that role. He understood that "those who walked in these shoes before me were asswipes" and he understood that by intensifying and magnifying that "the person in these shoes now is not an asswipe and is not going to hurt you" it would help me learn that "not everyone who walks in those shoes is an asswipe".
Open communication is really important imo. Without communication of our feelings, we can't do those silly things that help each other get over the bad times.


< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 4/18/2006 11:47:39 AM >


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RE: Learning to trust again, after being hurt - 4/22/2006 8:39:18 PM   
cariad


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girl too has been hurt by Someone and is still learning to get over it in order to trust again......with the help of MasterWolverine (girl's Protector) girl is once again well on her way to being happy with who she is and to pay attention to the "warning bells," she has heard in the past.

*rubs her chin a moment* oh yes that's what it was girl was going to try and say..."People may come and go from our lives, but those who stick around are the ones who leave a lasting impression in our hearts,minds and souls."

girl can't remember the other quote a Dom Friend told her at one time but as soon as she does or she sees Him online she will ask Him to repeat it and post it here.

just because You are a Dominant does NOT mean You don't feel, don't bleed and don't have the right to cry. Dominants sometimes forget that they too are human and have these rights....... the right to: cry, hurt, bleed, feel any kind of emotion and ask for help...

when You ask for help it shows You are not only human, but it also makes You a better Dominant because You took that step to ask for help.

hope this helps a bit Sir and as was said before: "baby steps do work"

Blessed Be


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RE: Learning to trust again, after being hurt - 4/22/2006 8:45:34 PM   
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I think we have all been hurt at some point or time by someone we trusted. I beleive there is a healing process that MUST occure after in order for someone to move on and be able to get involved in a healthy relationship and not dwell on the past hurts. I wrote this essay sometime ago. I think that it relates very much to what you are dealing with and perhap it may help you in your healing process. I know that it helped me to write it at the time.

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Fogiveness
by Nika
 
Is forgiveness imperative towards us surviving as a couple, as friends?Surving period? Despite the difficulties I believe it is.
 
I believe the qualities that comprise forgiveness are good and very much needed:
 
-To forgive yourself you must obtain self understanding-be real with yourself, your heart. It starts with some very root questions: What are my feelings? My regrets? My hopes? What do I want to change? What am I honestly willing to do to implement change?

-The next step is to move from thinking about self to thinking about others, however; we MUST do so in a positive light. We must have empathy, and understanding for human flaws and imperfection. We must each recognize and acknowledge the hurt others have inflicted then recognize that the hurt, pain, was not directed at you. We must acknowledge and accept that it was simply a product of their own inner turmoil.
 
-The third ingredient needed is accepting the pain that may remain in the wake of asking for it. Forgiveness does not erase the hurt or pain or change the forgived person. Forgiveness, often times involves a dramatic gesture, it is not a mystical transformation that will cure this relationship or make the pain go away. It is an accommodation.
 
Why seek forgiveness then? Why is it so important in order to move on to a healthy and strong relationship? Forgiveness is a way of liberating yourself from the pain, of choosing to let go. I must decide that the positive value of our relationship out weighs the validity of my pain.

True forgiveness, should NOT be held hostage to an apology or to change.

The reality is forgiveness is not an absolute- it in no way absolves anyone one from personal responsibility - however it does allow me to move past that moment.
 
If I only concentrate on my own emotions, my own resentments, anger, and pain and not that of my friend, my partner, my Master what am I? I believe that forgiving, letting go is so hard to do because of our own, my own selfish expectations and assumptions.
 
Does enough time have to pass for a scab to begin forming. Even if a scab does begin to form do I pick at it never letting it heal, in order to remember the pain that was inflicted or do I bandage the wound, forgetting about it, moving on letting it heal naturally.That is the delima that many including myself find myself in.
 
I have come to the conclusion that I have refused to let bandage it and move on letting it heal. I have relized that in doing this I have focused on my pain, I have made things personal that perpahs in all reality where not. Only I can let it go, nothing he does will "make" me do that, I must choose to let it go or to hold on. I must choose pain or love, yesterday or tomorrow.
 
Perhaps this is the first step in letting go.


< Message edited by Phoenixandnika -- 4/22/2006 8:47:55 PM >


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