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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 8:59:23 AM

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My yoot was spent blissfully unaware of sex or the sexual nature of body parts............until I was molested by a trusted, older, family member. Even then I was so uneducated I didn't know what was done to me. I only knew I didn't like it.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 9:08:10 AM

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no, strawman, she dont. you see, children are born with peckers and gashes, and many is the occasion that i've seen little boys running around parading thier hardons sans cloth, and girls digging a long time in their diapers. You aint born with a steering wheel up your ass.

course I believe in some fundamental sex education (fundamental) and appropriate and inappropriate touching stuff. i also believe that you shouldnt be telling kids fairy tales: jesus, and santa, and easterrabbit and whatnot, (they enjoy getting presents and finding eggs without it) so that they know you wont lie to them, and what a lie is, and wont believe anyone elses fairy tales

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 9:08:33 AM

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you really have to consider how functional a 5 year old is. That is when you learn to count- ABCs, say please, take your turn, share,

For fucksake PA!! You really need to spend more time around kids if you believe that!

My grandson's, ages 6 and 7 just recently, could teach you a lot. They learned counting, alphabet, and manners, quite a few years ago. Trust me, they know what sex is and several different variants. Adults just do not give kids enough credit.

So then you support giving a 5 year old a drivers license?

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 9:16:05 AM

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IF the material was to be taught in an age appropriate (not morally but brain maturity and ability to understand) manner..........I certainly would have no problem with it. My kids were asking questions, and getting those questions answered correctly, by that age.

I concur. We started learning about "sexuality" in kindergarten (I was 4, and this was 44 years ago!!!) by learning about farm animals, growing and hand-fertilizing plants (specifically corn, tomatoes, beans, and apples), and raising chicks. We learned what it takes to make a baby (a male an a female), the basic body parts involved in basic reproduction for plants, animals, and human beings, and we learned about how sometimes, even different species of animals can develop bonds of affection with one another that have nothing to do with being able to make babies by watching sheep and goats that shared "family space" and raised their families together... even nursing one another's babies!!!

Hey... maybe that was the foundation of my beliefs on the potential capacity of human beings to love, regardless of gender, race, religion, etc.... Damned shame, that -- better not let anyone ELSE's kids learn anything like that....

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 10:42:08 AM

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IF the material was to be taught in an age appropriate (not morally but brain maturity and ability to understand) manner..........I certainly would have no problem with it. My kids were asking questions, and getting those questions answered correctly, by that age.

I concur. We started learning about "sexuality" in kindergarten (I was 4, and this was 44 years ago!!!) by learning about farm animals, growing and hand-fertilizing plants (specifically corn, tomatoes, beans, and apples), and raising chicks. We learned what it takes to make a baby (a male an a female), the basic body parts involved in basic reproduction for plants, animals, and human beings, and we learned about how sometimes, even different species of animals can develop bonds of affection with one another that have nothing to do with being able to make babies by watching sheep and goats that shared "family space" and raised their families together... even nursing one another's babies!!!

Hey... maybe that was the foundation of my beliefs on the potential capacity of human beings to love, regardless of gender, race, religion, etc.... Damned shame, that -- better not let anyone ELSE's kids learn anything like that....

Calla

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 10:48:54 AM

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Are you trying to get burned at the stake?

Wouldn't be the first time for someone in my family line. *shrugs and grins*

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:04:41 AM

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Why does learning about homosexuality have to be an issue?
My four year old sister knows that her uncle Kevin and uncle Graham love each other. She doesn't necessarily know the word "gay" or anything about gay sex, but she's aware that it's possible and acceptable for two men to have a relationship like mummy and daddy. What's wrong with learning about tolerance and acceptance?

The comments of the mother make it sound like they're going to be giving children practical demonstrations. I honestly doubt it's going to be anything more than the ins and outs (no pun intended) of sex, not teaching seven year olds how to give a great blow job.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:21:16 AM

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Why not learn how two adults fall in love and recreate at a young age? There's no need to go into any graphic detail with four years olds of course, but at least let them understand how love works and how even same sex couples can still love each other just as much. All the comments against children learning about homosexuality is typical American ignorance, "herp derp bible says no fags freedom freedom blah blah". I'm actually sick and tired of people that act like this. Grow up, it's not the 60's anymore.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:41:17 AM

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OP and those who don't think this is a good idea:

Are the rest of you people missing this part? The point isn't that there's more sexual predators of kids, it's that we know about it. And as adults it's OUR FUCKING JOB to make sure that kids know what's right and wrong and that it's ok to tell us when someone is doing something wrong to them.

If anybody thinks they're "protecting" children by not telling them what their body parts and that those places shouldn't be touched, how about we change the law to you (general "you") going up on the stand and being prosecuted as an accomplice to the crime through negligence?

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My yoot was spent blissfully unaware of sex or the sexual nature of body parts............until I was molested by a trusted, older, family member. Even then I was so uneducated I didn't know what was done to me. I only knew I didn't like it.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:45:41 AM

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I really think teaching kids about their parts and what a no no touch is, should be up to the parents, but I know quite well not all parents are responsible about teaching that kind of stuff, or accurate in what they teach.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:50:07 AM

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I really think teaching kids about their parts and what a no no touch is, should be up to the parents, but I know quite well not all parents are responsible about teaching that kind of stuff, or accurate in what they teach.

There is a lot of things parents should do, that they don't. Neglecting to do many of those 'shoulds' can get the children removed from the parents. Unfortunately in our puritanical society we prefer to stick our proverbial heads in the sand and pretend the a lot of the 'unspeakable bad stuff' just won't happen to OUR precious little angels, rather than face it head on and do everything possible to protect through education.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:50:21 AM

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A better ,more honest thread title would be "Parents/foxnews wants to keep UMs ignorant,......WTF?"

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:50:23 AM

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OP and those who don't think this is a good idea:

Are the rest of you people missing this part? The point isn't that there's more sexual predators of kids, it's that we know about it. And as adults it's OUR FUCKING JOB to make sure that kids know what's right and wrong and that it's ok to tell us when someone is doing something wrong to them.

If anybody thinks they're "protecting" children by not telling them what their body parts and that those places shouldn't be touched, how about we change the law to you (general "you") going up on the stand and being prosecuted as an accomplice to the crime through negligence?

BoiJen,
I'm not disagreeing with THAT at all. What I disagree with it being taught in the kindergarten classroom. Parent's responsibility and all that sort of rubbish.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:52:22 AM

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BoiJen,
I'm not disagreeing with THAT at all. What I disagree with it being taught in the kindergarten classroom. Parent's responsibility and all that sort of rubbish.

So, when something happens to a child and it is investigated, and it has been discovered that the parents did not heed their parental responsibility, then what?

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:53:11 AM

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Guess I'm with Obama on this one

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:54:00 AM

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"rubbish"

Couldn`t put it better.

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:55:19 AM

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Guess I'm with Obama on this one

see, this is one of the reasons i never vote...things like this ALWAYS pops up and the people that voted are the ones raising all the fuss...well, people...blame yourselves...afterall...YOU VOTED FOR HIM...LOL (imitating Jim Carrey from "The Mask")

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 11:59:05 AM

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mikey, you are one of the very few posters that often causes me to wish I was a Mod.

And just an addendum re: being a mod.......no fucking way!!

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 12:00:03 PM

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why, because i tell it like it is and don't hold back? oh, well...that's life, i guess

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RE: Obama supports sex ed for kindergartners........wtf? - 7/14/2010 12:00:39 PM

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why, because i tell it like it is and don't hold back? oh, well...that's life, i guess

Ahhhhhh, no.

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