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National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 5:58:43 PM   
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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:07:26 PM   
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Officials have menacingly suggested that the property might make a nice site for a ski lodge.


How in the name of god does anyone "menacingly suggest" that someplace might make a good spot for a ski lodge?


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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:10:59 PM   
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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:11:54 PM   
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Governor Dave Freudenthal is threatening to sell off a chunk of one of America's most beautiful national parks unless the Obama administration comes up with more money to pay for education in the financially beleaguered state.



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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:12:52 PM   
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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:14:59 PM   
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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:19:23 PM   
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I do not think they can sell Federal land... just saying this story sounds bogus



but they sell off roads for 99 years.

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:21:15 PM   
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It's Bushcaused debt anyway.

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:23:03 PM   
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I do not think they can sell Federal land... just saying this story sounds bogus



but they sell off roads for 99 years.



There are strict laws surrounding the use of public lands, and National Parks have some of the strictest land use restrictions that practically take an act of congress to remove. My family had land in a National Park, and before my grandfather sold his it was almost impossible for him to get permission to improve his land, etc... and he owned it.

I just think this story sounds like a crock of shit, and perhaps the Guardian does not understand how our park system works, or how our states work in conjunction with fed land...

Seriously, I doubt highly this story has any teeth whatsoever

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:23:10 PM   
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I do not think they can sell Federal land... just saying this story sounds bogus


The problem is, parts of Grand Teton are actually  state land. They may very well be  able to do anything they want with it, up to and including carving a new Mount Rushmore with Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Glenn Beck.

Which actually might be sorta cool, if you think about it.


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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:24:18 PM   
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Sell some of Texas and give it to Wyoming.
 
It's Bushcaused debt anyway.


How about we just sell Bush? And I am not talking the female kind

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:27:01 PM   
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I do not think they can sell Federal land... just saying this story sounds bogus


The problem is, parts of Grand Teton are actually  state land. They may very well be  able to do anything they want with it, up to and including carving a new Mount Rushmore with Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Glenn Beck.

Which actually might be sorta cool, if you think about it.



I lived in Jackson Hole when I was a tender 20 year old. There are state lands that lead up to the tetons, but the tetons are federally owned. I believe the state runs the elk preserve, etc. If they decide to sell that land, go them! I am sure the citizens of Jackson Hole will be completely pissed off over that and they will probably not reelect the government that does it...

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:27:04 PM   
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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:28:39 PM   
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Welcome to the Democrat controlled economy. Welcome to "A Summer of Recovery".

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Governor Dave Freudenthal is threatening to sell off a chunk of one of America's most beautiful national parks unless the Obama administration comes up with more money to pay for education in the financially beleaguered state.




You miss this part?

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Washington says it is negotiating, but Freudenthal says the issue has dragged on for a decade.


A decade ago, Obama was still wearing short pants and attending jihad classes at Saddam Huessin's private fundamentalist madras in Baghdad. This isn't an Obama issue; it just happens to be coming to a head at this particular time.


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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:29:51 PM   
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A decade ago, Obama was still wearing short pants and attending jihad classes at Saddam Huessin's private fundamentalist madras in Baghdad. This isn't an Obama issue; it just happens to be coming to a head at this particular time.


Thanks for the chuckle....

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:33:12 PM   
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I lived in Jackson Hole when I was a tender 20 year old. There are state lands that lead up to the tetons, but the tetons are federally owned. I believe the state runs the elk preserve, etc. If they decide to sell that land, go them! I am sure the citizens of Jackson Hole will be completely pissed off over that and they will probably not reelect the government that does it...


You lived in Jackson Hole??!? Holy christ! How cool is that? Man, you must miss it about every 3 and a half minutes.

I thought I remembered that the state owned some of the land in the mountains themselves, but I may be wrong. But yeah, I completely agree that this is just posturing and positioning. I very much doubt it'll ever come to anything.





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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:34:58 PM   
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So who knows.

We will see alot of similar off the wall ideas.

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:39:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Welcome to the Democrat controlled economy. Welcome to "A Summer of Recovery".

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Governor Dave Freudenthal is threatening to sell off a chunk of one of America's most beautiful national parks unless the Obama administration comes up with more money to pay for education in the financially beleaguered state.




You miss this part?

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Washington says it is negotiating, but Freudenthal says the issue has dragged on for a decade.


A decade ago, Obama was still wearing short pants and attending jihad classes at Saddam Huessin's private fundamentalist madras in Baghdad. This isn't an Obama issue; it just happens to be coming to a head at this particular time.



You're assuming Insanity understands basic concepts of math. Funny.
 
He has a position of blaming a decade old issue on current leadership then posts a cartoon satirising the same approach. Sometimes his hypocrisy gets him all confuddled.

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:41:55 PM   
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You lived in Jackson Hole??!? Holy christ! How cool is that? Man, you must miss it about every 3 and a half minutes.


I moved back to Yosemite... and no, I did not miss it every moment. I was engaged when I moved back, I missed my then boyfriend who became my husband like every moment ( I was 20 after all...lol)

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RE: National park faces sale... - 8/6/2010 6:50:20 PM   
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