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LadyHibiscus -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 10:30:20 AM)

Jaybee, you are acting like a dick. Stop it, it's not making you look good.

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OP, it's hard to tell someone that you are not interested. The skills for doing that just aren't taught anymore. From what you've said, it doesn't sound like a stellar date. She had your phone number, right? If I am lost trying to get somewhere I call the person I am meeting and ask them to tell me where I am going! That is, if I WANT to get where I am going...

Take the good from it, and move on.




Jeffff -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 10:41:37 AM)

He is complaining about VC?

Out of all the bitches here, he picked her?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Also, I can supplly the jazz.




LadyPact -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:07:45 AM)

I'll cop to this.  I've done it.  Though it has been some time.

If I'm going to meet someone for the first time, I do make My best attempt to be the one who gets there first.  This way, you don't see where I park, My license plate number, or what type of vehicle that I'm driving.  Somebody who offered Me three different locations for desert, especially if a play such as skinny dipping was involved, I'm going to take the one that gets us back in separate vehicles.  Even if I was following someone, it's easy enough to find the right timing on a red light.

It's entirely possible that you gave her a bad vibe during the dinner conversation.  Saying "I'm not that into you" is a lot safer proposition when it's someone that you know, rather than someone that you've just met who you don't know how they are going to react.  If there was something that set off a red flag for her, she probably ditched you.  Obviously, she had your phone number and hasn't used it, nor has she answered your emails.  (The multiple emails probably confirmed whatever she was thinking about you.)

I'm not a pro and I'm not a female supremacist.  However, I do play publicly and casually.  If something isn't right in My gut when I'm meeting someone for the first time, it will be the only time. 




slavekal -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:19:26 AM)

Many dommes tend to be a little disagreeable and impossible to please.  Not all of them, but it is not uncommon.  Sometimes you have to set a domme straight, as unpleasant as that can be.  I have known many dommes in my time.  Only a handful could I really deal with on a long term basis.  Mistress Mlicious is one awesome exception.  Very pleasant person, all the kink notwithstanding.




TheRaptorJesus -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:43:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slavekal

Many dommes tend to be a little disagreeable and impossible to please.  Not all of them, but it is not uncommon.  Sometimes you have to set a domme straight, as unpleasant as that can be. 


Yeah, sometimes all any woman needs, "dominant" or otherwise, is a good pop in the mouth from a man.

Gotta keep em in line, man.




AAkasha -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:44:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavekal

Many dommes tend to be a little disagreeable and impossible to please.  Not all of them, but it is not uncommon.  Sometimes you have to set a domme straight, as unpleasant as that can be.  I have known many dommes in my time.  Only a handful could I really deal with on a long term basis.  Mistress Mlicious is one awesome exception.  Very pleasant person, all the kink notwithstanding.


How is the OP going to "set this domme straight?"  Send her another email (after she ignored all the ones asking for a follow date) and tell her he doesn't want to go out with her again after all?  That'll show her!

Akasha




Jeffff -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:46:17 AM)

I find, " set her straight" a little odd too.



There is a Chinese saying that says, " Women should be struck regularly, like a gong"

Those wacky Chinese!




LaTigresse -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:49:16 AM)

I would like to see Ward try to set June straight!!![:D]




Jeffff -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 11:56:20 AM)

Ward would be happy to..............." get something straight between us!"




lally2 -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 12:19:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: samboct
.So to make a long story longer, she never shows up. I talked to her that evening and she'd gotten lost and frustrated and turned around. However, she said that dinner had been enjoyable and that we'd try again next week. Well, I'm sure you've guessed the punch line- no response since. I've tried long missives and short invites- no rancor. She reads them, but doesn't respond.
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Is this type of behavior typical of a "female supremacist"? .
TIA

Sam


she had youre mobile number, she could have phoned and let you know she'd turned back.  instead she let you wait about at home, truffles in hand for a no-show.  since youd had a good evening together it was a shoddy way to end it.  she could have sent a text to say she was turning around if she didnt want to speak to you.  when you did speak to her she continued to be a gutless wimp and led you to believe there would be follow up.

i dont think this has anything do with anything other than her being a mannerless gutless wimp and who cant be bothered to show basic manners and consideration.   bin her, and move on, who needs that sort of person in their life anyway.

as for not suggesting she came back to youre place - these are adult relationships, he's an adult man she's an adult woman.  if she wasnt prepared to go along she should have said so - instead she gutted out by saying nothing and not turning up.  how is that being a supremacist of anything other than being rude.

if its games she's playing then she's way ahead of herself and theyre not concensual, you havent discussed mind fucks, or had you?




Voodali -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 12:23:45 PM)

I don't think this is anything to do with gender.
I had an experience similar to the OP's in which I had  coffee with a sub I'd played with before, we negotiated a scene, left the coffee shop, and I told him to follow me in another car to where it would take place.  It was both infuriating and a little amusing when he peeled out behind me and took off in the opposite direction LOL.
Interestingly, he contacted me again later, and confessed that he lost his nerve.  (Was it the fact that the scene involved cleaning ? F. that ! Hard limit, right ?)
Your Domme could also have reconsidered the situation she was walking into while in the car, and realized that, while it sounded good on paper, she didn't really want to enact it. 
Things like this happen to me alllllll the time.   If you've searched your soul and maybe asked some valued opinions, and you're reasonably sure its not something you're doing to freak people out, just shout "NEXT !", and try again.




lally2 -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 12:26:53 PM)

ive walked out on a date before now.  said i needed air and i just kept going.  but when the guy rang he knew why id walked and was apologetic - even him, an arrogant, insensivite twat knew he'd taken the wrong route with me.  you almost always get a vibe about these things.

when he asked if we could try again, i said 'no' its easy enough to say.  end of - i dont get why she didnt just text and end it right there or why she led him on or why she hasnt responded at all, even if its to say - no.  even easier by email.




subrob1967 -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 12:33:24 PM)

She just wasn't in to you, and used the excuse of going back to your place to end the date as soon as possible. GPS's are pretty much idiot proof, and unless you live in the newest of sub divisions, I seriously doubt she "got lost and frustrated" before heading for home.




January -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 12:33:34 PM)

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It's quite possible I misread the signals, but what I'm catching from these posts is that if there are a set of rules for dealing with women like this, I'm not the only one in the dark about them.


Underlines mine.

Sam,

Dude! Do not assume a lack of connection between you and a particular woman has anything to do with the label YOU put on her. The fact that she got lost, or didn't get lost, liked you or didn't like you, had nothing to do with your assignment of her as a female supremacist.

The lady, I'm sure, believes she is far more complex than that.

Your attitude of confidently speculating as to motive--without the requisite data--will get you into trouble with all sorts of women. In this case, you're not likely to get the data you need. So stop thinking in a box.

January

Edited to spell supremacist correctly...




Jeffff -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 12:35:09 PM)

I recommend a tranquilizer gun. The kind that shoots darts.

She might be more amendable when she wakes up.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 2:20:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

Her feelings weren't hurt by being publically highlighted as a ditz.

I think this is the first time in my entire life that I have ever been called a ditz.

I feel like I've joined a club [:)]

OP: Does it matter whether she lost interest before she 'got lost' or after you sent her too many messages? Either way she lost interest. No it isn't pleasant, no it isn't polite, but I'd bet the majority of women posting on this thread have cut someone off without an explanation on a website at some point. Perhaps not after meeting them for dinner, granted, but it happens.

Move on, hope you click better with the next person, don't ever suggest that a woman who doesn't know you leaves her car behind, hope you don't get dropped again, lather, rinse, repeat. Eventually you might well find someone amazing who thinks you are amazing too.

At that point I suspect the shitty stuff you're going through now will become worth it [;)]




LadyPact -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 2:23:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2
she had youre mobile number, she could have phoned and let you know she'd turned back.  instead she let you wait about at home, truffles in hand for a no-show.  since youd had a good evening together it was a shoddy way to end it.  she could have sent a text to say she was turning around if she didnt want to speak to you.  when you did speak to her she continued to be a gutless wimp and led you to believe there would be follow up.

i dont think this has anything do with anything other than her being a mannerless gutless wimp and who cant be bothered to show basic manners and consideration.   bin her, and move on, who needs that sort of person in their life anyway.

as for not suggesting she came back to youre place - these are adult relationships, he's an adult man she's an adult woman.  if she wasnt prepared to go along she should have said so - instead she gutted out by saying nothing and not turning up.  how is that being a supremacist of anything other than being rude.

if its games she's playing then she's way ahead of herself and theyre not concensual, you havent discussed mind fucks, or had you?

I do have to say, lally, that I'm a little surprised by your response.  I realize that we are in the submissive section of the board, but I don't think this would have been your response if we had been talking about a submissive instead of a Domme.

It's the OP's impression that she had a good time.  Not that she actually had one.  It's just as easily possible that she got put off by the conversation and didn't feel right about the situation.  For all we know, she was worried about what would happen.

If the roles were reversed, and we were talking about a female submissive who, for whatever reason, felt some reason to get away from a Dom during a first meet, would we still be calling her gutless?  I know that I've been in situations that there was something about what was happening that triggered the 'use your head and find a way to go at the first opportunity' in My mind.  It may not even be something I can put My finger on, but something is not right and I'm sensing danger.  Comments like wanting to get Me naked the first time I've met someone face to face could very well give Me that vibe.

No, I'm probably not going to aggrivate the situation if I get that feeling from someone who has My cell number.  Simply put, if I was right, I don't need the guy calling or texting Me repeatedly if things went wrong.

This is in no way meant to be offensive to the OP.  Of course, neither of us know him and he might be a wonderful person.  However, there definitely are people out there where the above absolutely applies.




juliaoceania -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 2:50:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

There's also the possibility that she DID intend to get back with you but after reading the 435 mails you sent her, called it off.





I would definitely be turned off if some guy emailed me repeatedly before giving me a chance to respond....... I would think of this as a red flag




littlewonder -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 3:00:34 PM)

eehh...I've slipped out back doors when meeting men. The probably thought I was enjoying the date because I tend to be polite and smile and nod and talk to them and all that stuff when in reality I was scoping out the bathroom so I could make a quick getaway.

It was easier than telling them how much of a brute or bore they were and have to be be afraid of the tirade they would have let loose.

These men seemed to have gotten over it and if they didn't then they only proved just how much I didn't want to be with them and that I chose the correct route.

The more you complain and rant about it the more you show why she may have not bothered further with you.





lally2 -> RE: Experience with female supremacists? (8/13/2010 3:05:55 PM)

Lady P - i didnt mean to refer that her changing her mind was gutless at all.  what i was saying was that it showed a lack of something at least not to just take 1 minute out of the evening to text and say she wasnt coming.  or even now, to just send an email saying she changed her mind.  instead she said later on the phone that she'd got lost, with a SatNav thats nearon impossible, so she lied, and that she'd like to meet him again, clearly another lie.  i think its gutless not to tell a person youve spent the evening with that youre not going to pursue it.  if they did have a pleasant evening its now resulted in this guy feeling bemused and maybe a little unsure of what he did wrong or why she lied and snuk off.  

from his OP he sounds like a reasonable person just trying to get to grips with his first meet up with someone who calls herself a supremacist.

i would never question a persons gut feeling to leave, at all, Domme or sub - but i do question the lack of manners and basic consideration clearly lacking here.

i put myself in his shoes and felt his confusion - its not nice to just get dropped like that with not so much as a 'No thanks, was nice to meet you though' - its pretty cold and when we're putting ourselves on the line a bit each time we meet someone, somthing like this could set a person back a bit.  i just think its pointlessly unkind.




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