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DemonKia -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 6:01:01 AM)

FR

To paraphrase his royal purpleness: So tonight we're gonna party like it's 12/20/2012 . .. . .

Oh. & put me down in the hogwash-on-yet-another-apocalyptic-prediction camp. My theory is that apocalypticism is more about projecting out fears about now & the future, depression, despair, hopelessness, et al, than it is about some accurate precognition . . .. . .

& given all the hoo-haw-hysteria around the number 13, I'm really looking forward to the year 2013 . . . . . .




Musicmystery -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 7:55:27 AM)

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Next clue - the current 11 year Sun Spot Cycle has passed the minimum (sun spot activity should have begun over a year ago and has not for the first time ever). This appears to be caused by a gravitation field influencing the sun. The only field large enough would be from - the center of the galaxy.

What does all this mean? Putting it all together, it implies the 2011-2012 event is a natural cycle of solar maximum bursts which could scorch all or parts of the earth. How is the world preparing?


Holy fuck.

I thought you were just having some speculative fun, but now I see you skipped science class.

How am I preparing? I'll probably stay up to watch the northern lights.

Then I'll get up and enjoy the days like any other days.

Do some reading on solar wind and sunspots.

Scientists, this time, not wacko rags.




etFilii -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 11:32:50 AM)

I hope the world ends.HUMANZ ARE THE CANCER KILLING THIS PLANET.




domiguy -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 11:42:02 AM)

I think I am a very curable type of cancer. I will linger while the rest of you metastasize into some hideous growth and are removed from the face of this Earth.

Just me and my new subby Domisearthgal will remain. She will give me everything she has to offer. Think of the size of the vibrating butt plug I will need. Noah's Ark would be a child's toy in comparison.

She won't smell great until you are all done rotting.




DomKen -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 3:08:25 PM)

so much woo
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Have you ever looked out into the night sky and seen the Milky Way Galaxy? Did you notice the obvious tilt? It is at a steep angle to the straight line of the horizon. Why?
It turns out that our solar system appears to belong to another galaxy that is colliding with the Milky Way. This was recently discovered when scientists were trying to figure (mathematical) sources for "dark matter" that would account for forces we can measure but not see visibly. Using near-infrared (wavelengths of light outside human eye and optical telescopes) a huge sister galaxy circling the Milky Way was discovered. It's called the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy (SGR for short).

No, the Sun is not and never was part of another galaxay. The Sag DEG (the real abbreviation) (means Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy) is on the far side of the Milky Way from here and is still around 100,000,000 years away from colliding with the Milky Way.

BTW the Sag DEG is not a huige galaxy. its actually very small as these things go (that explains why it is so close but only confirmed in 1994). Astronomers are not in the habit of calling things dwarf galaxies because they are huge.

Pretty much everything else you wrote is wrong as well.




thornhappy -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 5:10:58 PM)

This is the last time I'm responding, because 1) you could do the research yourself (about 30 minutes in all), and 2) I sincerely doubt you'll believe me.  Your post was a great mix of "clear but not correct reasoning", and bogus science.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Have the astronomers, the astro-scientists extrapolated mathematically an alignment of the planets ? Yes, many more than say no (some actually referring to 12/12/12) say no, it does not predict an alignment. Seems this may be a battle of the software because how else do we do it ?

Compadre, they were doing this long before software came out.
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Math is yes or no. Did our math tell us this cosmic phenomenon occurred about 25,500 years ago ? I believe it does. Has there been research into what may have happened then ? Little.

Astrophysicists and astronomers can tell you what the constellations looked like at any point of Earth's history.  That's how they looked for significant conjunctions near the birth of Christ, and to see if the Nazca lines were oriented with certain constellations or visible planets. 
Regarding the research, what are you basing this on?  There would be a wide variety of geologic data available.
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
So the question remains, will the forces of hell be unleashed upon us ? The scientists say maybe but there may be some changing times ahead...coming soon to your local newsstand an smut shops. Why ?

Whose hell?  Which religion's hell?  Why their hell over any other hell?
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Have you ever looked out into the night sky and seen the Milky Way Galaxy? Did you notice the obvious tilt? It is at a steep angle to the straight line of the horizon. Why?

It turns out that our solar system appears to belong to another galaxy that is colliding with the Milky Way. This was recently discovered when scientists were trying to figure (mathematical) sources for "dark matter" that would account for forces we can measure but not see visibly. Using near-infrared (wavelengths of light outside human eye and optical telescopes) a huge sister galaxy circling the Milky Way was discovered. It's called the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy (SGR for short).

For those keen on the 2012 data, this is the reason [for] our entry point to the Rift, center, heart (HunabKu-Mayan)) of the Milky Way is through Sagittarius. The two collide at that point. This explains why our solar system is at an angle to the plane of the galaxy and also why we dip above and below that center line every 12,000 yrs or so.


But the trail gets hotter - literally. Moon shots from the 1960s revealed glass on the moon. Glass is made from intense bursts of heat on sand.

The event happened within the last 30,000 yrs. Ancient petrographics of primitive people (archeological carvings) from that era (12,000+y.a.) show the sun causing extreme energy bursts changing earth atmosphere.

Next clue - the current 11 year Sun Spot Cycle has passed the minimum (sun spot activity should have begun over a year ago and has not for the first time ever). This appears to be caused by a gravitation field influencing the sun. The only field large enough would be from - the center of the galaxy.

Jesus, fellah, this is all balls, bullshit, and poppycock. 

1) Solar cycle:  We're on the upswing already.  Go check it out on www.sec.noaa.gov.  Activity's still low since we're coming out of the minimum.  My parents saw the aurora way down to NW Ohio last month.  The solar cycle isn't dependent on gravitational fields from other planets, and especially from the SGR.  (Those guys ought to be considering the closer galaxies if they were worrying about gravitational influences.)

2) Inclination of the Milky Way:  that's because the plane of our solar system is at an different angle to the ecliptic (plane of the galaxy).  There's nothing fancy about it.  And we belong to the Milky Way galaxy, not that SGR (I assume you're talking about the elliptical one, not the irregular one).  The plane of our solar system doesn't change every 12,000 years.

3) Glass on the moon is extremely common, and here're the reasons, straight from NASA's web site about the various moon hoaxes: "We've found particles of fresh glass in Moon rocks that were produced by explosive volcanic activity and by meteorite impacts over 3 billion years ago," added [Dr. Marc] Norman."

4)  Which petroglyphs?  How do they come up with that interpretation?

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
What does all this mean? Putting it all together, it implies the 2011-2012 event is a natural cycle of solar maximum bursts which could scorch all or parts of the earth. How is the world preparing?

The peak's anticipated to be 2013-2014, and it's going to be weaker than the last one.  The biggest danger we get from the sun are solar radiation storms associated with large coronal mass ejections.  They tend to affect radio propagation, satellites and power transmission.  For instance, in 1989 a solar storm caused the Hydro-Quebec blackout.  Since then, power companies have learned how to lower the chance of blackouts.

They only way a solar eruption could "scorch the earth" would be if our magnetic field disappeared.  If you want real "scorch the earth" stuff, you'd want a close gamma ray burst from a comparatively nearby star.
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Russia is building a huge underground city to hold 60,000 people, the YAMANTAU Mt Complex.

Norway has already built enough facility for their entire population to go under ground. Sweden. working with NATO has created an underground seed bank (a modern day Noah's Ark).

And here in the USA?
The Bush family has made one of the largest land purchases in history for their own personal private compound in Paraguay. (the only inland nation of South America)
I know, I know a real waste of money...ok.

Holy shit. 

The Norway "underground" claim is from NWO conspiracy sites.  There would be amazing news about that kind of construction effort in the contracting world!

That seed bank's been in existence since 2006 as a response to the the possibility of crop disaster.  This isn't the only seed bank around, btw.

That Bush rumor was started by a Cuban newspaper when Jenna made a UNICEF visit.  Guess what?  The rumor started in 2006.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 5:28:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
They only way a solar eruption could "scorch the earth" would be if our magnetic field disappeared. If you want real "scorch the earth" stuff, you'd want a close gamma ray burst from a comparatively nearby star.


This is why I went out and bought one of those U-Shaped magnets, just in case it falters. If I hold it up to the sky at 21:12 on the 12/21/2012, I should be okay. The only doubt I have is if I should be using the 24hrs system or the 12hrs system. The prophecy was unclear as to if the cataclysmic event was occurring at 21:12 or 12:21. If it's the 12hrs system I need to be vigilant on two occasions, however being vigilant on three occasions covers all possibilities unless we are using a tertiary number system.

The good thing about getting this wrong is that you'll never know. Those people are living for the day they'll be right but we'll not know they were right and if we do it'll only be for the shortest amount of time. Just enough time to say..yes I should have bought a magnet.




cpK69 -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 7:39:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: etFilii

I hope the world ends.HUMANZ ARE THE CANCER KILLING THIS PLANET.


More like the fetus with an opposing Rh factor. Total inhalation is not necessary; only about 2/3.




Aylee -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 8:23:40 PM)

Thorny, I want you!




BKSir -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 8:29:16 PM)

You know what? I'm wagering that diddily jack shit happens. I'm about 99% leaning that way. And IF something does, and the entire world just blows up, I'll be sitting there with a gin and tonic watching the show. Why? What the hell else am I going to do? Cover everything in duct tape and hold the entire planet together? No. What good will running around and screaming do? NONE! I'm just as dead either way. May as well have a drink and enjoy the fireworks.

People worry too much about shit they have no control over at all. If this big rock blows to smitherenes, it is what it is and it's not like you're going to be around to really care afterward anyway. If not, well, don't you feel like a douche for worrying so much about it? I know I would.




domiguy -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 8:34:05 PM)

I am protecting myself by creating a human shield of subbies. Can you imagine me surrounded by CM's finest?

You think one little ole' 12/21/2012 could get through that wall of humanity?

Bring it on




Jeffff -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 8:39:19 PM)

Mind if I stay with you that week?




Musicmystery -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/21/2010 9:06:26 PM)

[:D]




tornaway -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 3:39:06 PM)

  I look at it this way  -  whether it's true or not  - it's an advantage to all of us  to live our lives as if the end is near , and savor each day .

  If it doesn't happen we simply continue on ...

And if it DOES happen - well then,  nothing at all to worry about any more !    [:)]




thornhappy -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 6:21:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy
They only way a solar eruption could "scorch the earth" would be if our magnetic field disappeared. If you want real "scorch the earth" stuff, you'd want a close gamma ray burst from a comparatively nearby star.


This is why I went out and bought one of those U-Shaped magnets, just in case it falters. If I hold it up to the sky at 21:12 on the 12/21/2012, I should be okay. The only doubt I have is if I should be using the 24hrs system or the 12hrs system. The prophecy was unclear as to if the cataclysmic event was occurring at 21:12 or 12:21. If it's the 12hrs system I need to be vigilant on two occasions, however being vigilant on three occasions covers all possibilities unless we are using a tertiary number system.

The good thing about getting this wrong is that you'll never know. Those people are living for the day they'll be right but we'll not know they were right and if we do it'll only be for the shortest amount of time. Just enough time to say..yes I should have bought a magnet.

Heh.  Now we need people all over the earth to wave them around! 

* buys me some stock in magnets *




vincentML -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 6:44:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tornaway

  I look at it this way  -  whether it's true or not  - it's an advantage to all of us  to live our lives as if the end is near , and savor each day .

  If it doesn't happen we simply continue on ...

And if it DOES happen - well then,  nothing at all to worry about any more !    [:)]



yanno, if i live everyday as if the end is near i would not be worrying anyway as i understand it. Or maybe i would. Maybe the sense of impending doom would piss on my party. I am always a bit perplexed when someone tells me that b/c i don't quite know how to do it. Not a criticism of you, tornaway, just speaking in general. What does it mean to savor each day? There's always bitchin things happening, isn't there? Ya fall down and break your arm maybe... nothing much to savor in that. Just thinking out loud here. Please don't take offense. Hmmmm.... i'm guessing i live each day like i'm invincible and like i'm never going to die. Like, fuck Death anyway. There's a freedom in that self-delusion, i think. [:D] Yeh, i like that strategy a little more.




vincentML -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 6:55:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

For all the snark on this page, the OP is not making this up. That doesn't necessarily mean that I believe that the world will end, nor a 'new age' for mankind, but here's a decent jumping-in point if you want to know more. I also watched a documentary a few months back, but I don't recall the name off the top of my head.

http://www.2012endofdays.org/general/why-2012.php

Jeff


Thanks for the jumpin in point. Yes, it's all based on the Mayan Calendar. Come on, Mr R, what's scientific about that? How have the Mayans been doing these past 500 years anyway? Not too well it seems. So, why should we trust them to get anything right let alone the End Time?




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 7:05:37 PM)

Everyone is wrong...

It will just be another day.

If the world ends as far as the universe is concerned it is just another fucking day.

QSM




MrRodgers -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 10:24:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

so much woo
quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Have you ever looked out into the night sky and seen the Milky Way Galaxy? Did you notice the obvious tilt? It is at a steep angle to the straight line of the horizon. Why?
It turns out that our solar system appears to belong to another galaxy that is colliding with the Milky Way. This was recently discovered when scientists were trying to figure (mathematical) sources for "dark matter" that would account for forces we can measure but not see visibly. Using near-infrared (wavelengths of light outside human eye and optical telescopes) a huge sister galaxy circling the Milky Way was discovered. It's called the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy (SGR for short).

No, the Sun is not and never was part of another galaxay. The Sag DEG (the real abbreviation) (means Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy) is on the far side of the Milky Way from here and is still around 100,000,000 years away from colliding with the Milky Way.

BTW the Sag DEG is not a huige galaxy. its actually very small as these things go (that explains why it is so close but only confirmed in 1994). Astronomers are not in the habit of calling things dwarf galaxies because they are huge.

Pretty much everything else you wrote is wrong as well.

If they are wrong, I am happy but two things.

Wiki:
The Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (SagDEG) is an elliptical loop-shaped satellite galaxy of the Milky Way galaxy. The main cluster which, in 1994, was the first to be discovered, is roughly 10,000 light years in diameter, and is currently about 70,000 light-years from Earth and traveling in a polar orbit at a distance of about 50,000 light-years from the core of the Milky Way.

Our solar system is almost the equivalent of a planet satellite as we are on the very edge of the Milky Way. Seems our orbits could come together and present something. But I am now beginning to think all of these distances are just far too great for anything to really make a difference. That's what I hadn't researched until now.

I am wondering now if any of these calenders predict dates beyond 12/2012.




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Doomsday coming ? 12/21/2012 (8/22/2010 11:34:50 PM)

Okay.... Read up Peoples




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