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RE: Whats in a name - 10/3/2010 4:34:48 PM

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I find the idea of being addressed as "Master" utterly absurd and silly. It's right up there with "Lord" and "Oh Mighty one".

Just a thought Crazy (and with due consideration to your caveat), but I'm right there with you... the word "master" is just plain silly... until it is uttered on the lips of a woman who literally sees you as her owner. Then suddenly, it gets a lot less silly.

That's why I don't command Carol to call me "master". It's also why I really like it when she chooses to.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/3/2010 5:12:15 PM

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In my previous relationship, I called him Papi, Sadistic Overlord, and sometimes "Evil fucker". Most times, I called him by name, but in tender moments, he was Dios Mio.
If he ever told me to call him "Sir", I'd likely have clicked my heels & saluted, and "Master" would have come out in Igor's voice.

I've always maintained that relationships evolve. I may find that one day Sir or Master will just feel right, or even Daddy.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/4/2010 3:18:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: crazyml
I find the idea of being addressed as "Master" utterly absurd and silly. It's right up there with "Lord" and "Oh Mighty one".

Just a thought Crazy (and with due consideration to your caveat), but I'm right there with you... the word "master" is just plain silly... until it is uttered on the lips of a woman who literally sees you as her owner. Then suddenly, it gets a lot less silly.

That's why I don't command Carol to call me "master". It's also why I really like it when she chooses to.

Grin - yes, that's the reason I can bear to be called "Sir", but your point is a really good (and important) one in that I agree, there's a world of difference between demanding something, and being given it.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/4/2010 5:23:27 AM

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Strangely enough, since being called Honey (not used that much here or at least where I meander), has only happened when I have visited the Southern States of the US, if a female address me as such, it has the effect if switching on my hormones and I end up quite randy.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/4/2010 8:49:23 PM

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On the flip side, to those doing the kneeling, what is your perception? I realize you address the dominant force in your life in the manner he prefers, I wondered if in your heart/mind there was a difference in what each word means.

Greetings Lisa,

In my opinion names have power and the effect uttering a given term or honorific will have on both individuals can be quite amazing. I view terms of endearment as a conscious acknowledgment of our beliefs about the other party. Since we're multifaceted individuals, it stands to reason that our opinions will be varied and run the gamut from sentimental and erotic to playful and engaging. They're often a reflection of what we're feeling at a given moment.

From the BDSM angle I see noted distinctions in Sir, Master and Keeper. Both in terms of how the dominant interacts with the submissive and the level of emoting that's displayed. Each may include some element of formality, however, when articulating the terms in the past my response differed in accordance to the connection and associations I felt with the person in question. Out of the three I have always felt that the Keeper was the most balanced and benevolent representation of inspired leadership that I've encountered.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/5/2010 1:25:44 AM

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I'm Master to my property. She refers to me as Daddy, normally, since that resonates with her, but whenever she needs a reminder of who precisely is in charge, I only allow her to refer to me as "Master." She uses my given name when in mixed company.

"Sir," I think, is for casual respect shown to Men. I know some prefer it as a title for the use of one's property, but I tend to personally find it much less resonant than "Master."

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/13/2010 7:24:42 AM

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really depends on the situation. In normal everyday life call me by my name. In play if uncollared sir is fine, collared I want to be called Master. To me it shows respect in the relationship dynamic.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/17/2010 4:38:21 PM

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For me I call him his given name alot, sir (military brat and time served) and Master. He loves Master but it is more common for me to address him as sir. I agree I do tend to say Master more when I am angry and need to remind me of how I want to treat him.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/17/2010 4:45:39 PM

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I generally like sir. It can be used casually, it sounds respectful, it doesn't presume the way Master does. Plus I get a thrill when people call me sir in casual conversation.

Master is only for someone who's master I am, it sets my teeth on edge when Gorean girls that I don;t know call me that and I have to remind myself that in their setting that is the proper thing to do.

I get called Baby a lot, for reasons I wont go into here, and that has never bothered me.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/18/2010 12:24:36 PM

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She can call me anything respectfull.
I don't demand a title..but she often uses Master or my name..

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/18/2010 1:08:28 PM

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I mostly call her bitch ....but i mean it affectionately.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/23/2010 9:44:00 AM

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i usually address my DOMINANT as SIR, or occassionally MASTER. When emailing i address HIM as MASTER "HIS FIRST NAME"

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/23/2010 1:22:41 PM

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I'm still getting used to using terms of endearment, and he likes to come up with silly ones. Lately, I am 'Miss Atreides' (from Dune, because my last name is similar to one of the characters' first names) or 'SugarDarlingDumplingButt'. The former makes me smile, and I'm not too fond of the latter. He has also nicknamed my ovaries after quarks - one is 'charmed', the other 'strange'. I think it's funny

I will usually just use his name. Sometimes 'Sir' slips out. Sometimes it's 'Jackass' or 'Manwhore'...

ETA: and generally we use each others' names, or 'babe', or 'baby'.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/23/2010 5:00:44 PM

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When you come to the realization that you have a dominant nature and desire to have someone kneeling at your feet...what word comes to your mind? Are you a master, or a sir? Why?

Is there a difference? How do you view it?

First and foremost, I am Raven.....

in Lifestyle terms I am a Master, regardless of whether I currently Own a girl or not. Why? Because that is what suits Me, What I am drawn to, What sees Me at My very best in terms of a primary relationship Dynamic.... Master/slave... It is part of who I AM, not a role I play.

My girl, like Myself isn't a two dimensional figure, We relate on many different levels, all underpinned by that cornerstone of M/s... she is My partner, My property, My little girl, My slut... whatever the hell else I require her to be..... The three terms of address she uses, born not out of some imposed 'protocol' but because each expresses itself naturally in the different ways We interact..... Master... Daddy.... and *shock horror* Raven.

If I take on another slave, to start with there would be two... Master and Raven, if any others started cropping up naturaly due to the way We interact then if it felt right to Me they would be incorporated. If they didn't feel right to Me I'd address the matter and stop it before it got to be 'normal' for Us.

If I take on a sub or even a playpartner, the two would be Sir and Raven..... In such a case then there is one term I would have an issue with if she tried to address Me as it... that's 'Master', it isn't the Dynamic such a girl would be in, it means specific things to Me. If she hasn't given herself to that extent OR I have no draw to fully Own her then she would NOT be allowed to use the term.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/23/2010 7:03:49 PM

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Call him by name, that's what he wants. We are life partners, lovers, friends. A lot more than just a d/s role.

Exactly. I call him John. On a rare occasion I call him Sir, but that is less and less frequently, especially since for the last year or so I have worked for him at his business, it just seems more "fake" or insincere the more "real" we get, if that makes any sense. At the way beginning it was kind of hot to call him Sir, but now that he and I are in a fully ensconced 24/7 relationship, it seems too "scene-y" to call him that. He prefers to be called by his name, or we call each other "love" when we are feeling intimate and sweet.

It makes perfect sense to me. What you describe is pretty much how it is between Firm and I... except I don't call him "John" and our term of endearment is typically "babe".

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ORIGINAL: lally2

for me titles create a distance that i dont like...

The few times I tried calling Firm by "sir", it felt very uncomfortable. As a former military officer, he is very comfortable being called "sir" and enjoys the respect it shows. As a former military enlisted person, it just felt like putting a class barrier between us.

That's the last thing I want in a personal relationship.

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ORIGINAL: ShinyDr3am

... if a Dominant calls their submissive or slave by whichever name he/she has decided on, does it do something to the submissive or slave?

Since the beginning of our relationship over four years ago, Firm has called me by the name "Pet". Not only because of the connotations of our dynamic and my deep emotional attachment to Firm, but because this was the first "petname" a man had ever used for me, I've always felt particularly fond of him calling me that.

It always gives me a kind of "swooning" feeling.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/25/2010 5:02:52 PM

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I usually call him Master or Greedy Evil Bastard in private. He is especially fond of getting me to scream the latter. Around the house is usually Sir, in public usually babe. I've slipped up and called him Sir publicly, but usually I have the handy excuse of modeling correct address for the ums. In the South sir and ma'am are practically beaten into you with sticks.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/26/2010 9:33:35 AM

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I call Maste master 99% of the time, It is a term that came naturally to me. He is not hung up on title's but is ok with it as it is a natural form of adress. I would not call him Sir nor does he want me to, he was in the service as an officer and he go't sir'ed more then enough there. If i do call him by his given name it is because he told me when we are in public to do that I sometimes well many times slip and call him Master and he understands,

He almost never calls me by my given name he calls me sweetheart.

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RE: Whats in a name - 10/26/2010 10:27:54 AM

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Are you a master, or a sir? Why?

Neither....I'm a Bob...Why? because I have been for 50 years

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