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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 12:03:39 PM

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LOVE that LadyP!

( I try to do the same thing)

actually, because of me, my hotel has become a popular place for gay couples.. since I dont blink when two folks of same gender check into a king bed room.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 12:05:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

LOVE that LadyP!

( I try to do the same thing)

actually, because of me, my hotel has become a popular place for gay couples.. since I dont blink when two folks of same gender check into a king bed room.

gosh, you should work over here, i would love to arrange hotel rooms with someone behind the desk who knows what I would be looking for

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 1:32:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes, I realize it stevie. See, I'm a later in life Dominant and sadist. The life event that happened was I started having the most amazing sex on the planet.

I'd have to wonder about any man who doesn't know how to tap into his sexual drives. Let Me guess, steve. You've never had any thoughts of having a sexual encounter with a woman who wanted to use you as a sexual object to satisfy her desires. You haven't had a woman attack you in bed because she wanted to devour your body in such a way sexually that it blows your mind.

Damn shame, that.

And I'm betting the reverse is true. That he's never given any woman the most amazing sex in her life either. He's never been unconflicted enough to attack a woman in bed, to devour her body in such a way sexually that it blew her mind.

My condolences to all of his past, present and future partners.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 2:37:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

I've noticed with the replies a lot of people on here seem to have a lot of anger/pain inside of them, a simple look through the replies will show that.

It's not anger, Steve; it's frustration because you refuse to address valid points raised in opposition to your arguament, and just carry on and on repeating your single opinion like a stuck record.
There is no way that you are a psychology graduate - if you were, you would know the importance of citing sources and research. How, then, can you make such claims about the BDSM scene when you admit that you have never been part of it?

Also, troll-baiting is fun, and goes on at every forum!

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 3:53:16 PM

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A troll's purpose is not to make sense. A troll's sole purpose is to WIND YOU UP. Something which he/she/they are accomplishing.

The so-called dominants amongst you should be particularly ashamed. Your lack of security in your own reality betrays you.

I disagree with these your observations. I have not read most of the thread, having skipped sixteen or seventeen pages, but you appear to be the only one that is wound up.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 3:55:00 PM

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Ah but you never know, we might even educate the troll/s
Highly unlikely but stranger things have happened

I agree: it is highly unlikely. He is stone deaf.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 3:56:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Stupid poster is stupid.

I'm find stupid people irritating. On the whole, I'm immensely irritated by the stupidity of the average human being. You've managed to distinguish yourself by demonstrating your idiocy, in public, without an appreciation of the irony that implies.

Congratulations on the scale of your epic fail. If Guiness cared, they would no doubt award you a record.

Relax, Awareness. If one is irritated, one is not in balance. If one is not in balance, one is unhappy. Relax and be happy.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 3:59:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

All women want is an alpha male, if any so called dominant woman on here met a strong alpha male they would ditch this lifestyle immediatly i've no doubt about that

Wow - -I am seriously behind on this one. *winks* That's what I get for being sick all week.

If this is truly what you believe, OP, then you would be wrong. Our household has several very powerful alpha males -- one of whom was even my Keeper while I was in training (since our household gravitates towards the concept of -earning- one's right to lead by working one's way up if one is inclined to do so). I was one of those individuals who chose to lead rather than follow. I am one of the dominant members of our household, and sustaining that is not a matter of GENDER, it is a matter of personal choice and particular decision processes.

Earlier today, I responded to a post concerning feminism and BDSM on another thread. I think this OP, while nearly the antithesis of the other post, brings up the same misguided concepts, so I am going to reiterate what I said there, in brief (Yes, friends -- I promise, I will be brief): I am dominant because that is the choice that I make. My gender is nothing more than a happy accident of the Universe, and while it may impact some areas of my interaction in the world and my perceptions thereof, my gender neither makes me more nor less capable of, or interested in, such leadership roles. I am dominant because it is what I am, what I choose to be, and a core aspect of my nature. I make the choices that support that way of being, and I do so REGARDLESS of whom I am in relationship with -- if someone is inclined to yield, I hope that they will find me a good Keeper to hold authority over them. If they are not inclined to yield, then they are welcome to walk by my side as a colleague. If I were pink or green or male or bi-gendered, I would still be inclined to leadership. That's just the way it is.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 4:01:22 PM

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I think he means because I called his suggestions about trolls idiotic.

So his post called my post irritating, idiotic and ironic (in the cosmic sense) for calling his previous post idiotic in an ironic sense (well, technically in a sarcastic sense, but this sentence flows better if we pretend they're the same thing) and talking about the irony of a troll's irritation that other are posters discarding his opinion that a different troll's opinions should be discarded because said different troll's posts are 'obviously idiotic'.

Hope that was clearer

Barely. That was one looong sentence. Did you mean to write 'others' instead of 'other'?

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 4:12:17 PM

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I meant to write 'other posters are'; I just put the 'are' in the wrong place. That's what happens when you change your mind about syntax halfway through a sentence :s

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 4:22:44 PM

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glad i was busy with other things and missed all the fuss. ppl might try to educate a troll, but he's still a troll. leave him under the bridge!

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 4:27:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: steve2011
I've noticed with the replies a lot of people on here seem to have a lot of anger/pain inside of them, a simple look through the replies will show that.

That is odd: I did not notice that at all. But perhaps they were in the pages that I skipped?

It would help your argument if you provided a couple of literal quotes, including post number, to illustrate this point.

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I have a rule in life in general which most healthy people do naturally and that's not to argue with people with emotional problems as it's something they are not capable of doing healthily until they become aware of it.

But you will argue with people when they no longer have emotional problems? Why?

1. If people have no emotional problems, they do not need a 'therapist'.
2. To argue is to be emotional, so by arguing with people without emotional problems, you will evoke emotional problems.

Why not simply talk with people, or discuss subject matters with people?

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If you watch a great leader/debater, say a politician for example they will not argue in this style

Politicians are not great leaders. Duh! It is simply that most people lack the wits to see the bullshit a politician presents.

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it's very obvious to pick up a person with repressed emotional pain by the way in which they argue/debate, they will always try to overpower the other, whereas a great debater won't do that.

Quite, because that loses them votes.

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Quite interesting that people on here would be overbearing as having an overbearing person close to you is often a big factor in many peoples problems, which sadly a lot of people are not aware of, including myself at one time, believe it or not.

Okay, so you are in need of counseling.

It isn't so much that the posters here are overbearing, steve. It is that some of them are at a much higher intellectual level than you are, and that - with the exception of me - all of them are much more mature than you are as well as have a tremendous amount of life and sexual experience that both you and I lack. (I have not had sexual intercourse, except with my hand, nor a relationship for twenty-five years.)

Who do you think you are fooling? Them? They consider you to be a puppy that has not yet been licked behind the ears.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 4:55:19 PM

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I'd totally forgotten about this thread

Tsk, tsk. You are either lying, or you lack the wherewithal to have a serious discussion. I suspect both are true, but in this case I rather suspect that the former is one thousand times more likely than the latter.

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it's obviously stirred up a lot of emotions in people.

Do not beat yourself on the chest like that, steve. You have done nothing of the kind.

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In fact I won't be on for another week, i'd prefer it if the thread dropped but that won't happen.

It will be dropped either when you learn a even a tiny bit, or when people become bored by you, or when they give up on you as a hopeless case. You have already convinced a lot of people that you are a troll.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011
Sub consciously I believe

That is a contradictio in terminis. (Google what that means.) If this belief is subconscious, how come that you are aware of its existence? Do not ever tell anyone that you have a degree in psychology, for such a remark will immediately give you away as someone who does not know what he is talking about.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011
a lot of people on here would like to change

Indeed: they would like to change your misconceptions and delusions.

If you beg nicely, perhaps LadyPact would agree to teach you. She has been capped (or tapped; I forgot the terminology), so she is a professional.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011
hence the reason for such an interest in my thread.

lol. More chest-beating. What an ego-inflation. People here are just gathering around you like they would around a puppy, steve: "Look at the puppy! Isn't he cute and amusingly foolish and ignorant, and doesn't he smell nice!"

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 7:10:27 PM

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In fact I won't be on for another week, i'd prefer it if the thread dropped but that won't happen. Sub conciously I beleive a lot of people on here would like to change hence the reason for such an interest in my thread.

Oh steve, a whole WEEK? Please check in sooner than that, I'm so enjoying this thread and your contributions to it are key to its value.

big hug!

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/14/2011 11:19:34 PM

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If you beg nicely, perhaps LadyPact would agree to teach you. She has been capped (or tapped; I forgot the terminology), so she is a professional.

L'ud. Gud dammit, Rule. Don't drag the traditions of old leather into this!

Yes, I've been Capped. Most folks on this site don't understand the passing of old leather anyway.

I am no professional. My own personal ethics do not allow Me to be associated as such.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/15/2011 12:08:41 AM

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I meant professional in the sense of being qualified, as I understand that being capped is comparable to a diploma.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/15/2011 11:52:16 PM

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"the irony that implies"

Well, my issue was with the word "implies". I think a statement can be ironic, a sequence of events can be ironic, a situation can be ironic. But nothing you wrote implied an irony. It could have amounted to or created an irony.

("Appreciation for the ironic implications" would have worked, but the word implication can be used for a consequence.)

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/16/2011 10:40:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

I've noticed with the replies a lot of people on here seem to have a lot of anger/pain inside of them, a simple look through the replies will show that. I have a rule in life in general which most healthy people do naturally and that's not to argue with people with emotional problems as it's something there not capable of doing healthly until they become aware of it.

If you watch a great leader/debater, say a politician for example they will not argue in this style, it's very obvious to pick up a person with repressed emotional pain by the way in which they argue/debate, they will always try to overpower the other, whereas a great debater won't do that.

Quite interesting that people on here would be overbearing as having an overbearing person close to you is often a big factor in many peoples problems, which sadly a lot of people are not aware of, including myself at one time, belive it or not.

They won't ask for research and studies?

Really? You mean the President shouldn't ask for evidence and facts before they make a decision?

How adorable that you think people will believe that.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/16/2011 10:42:44 AM

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In fact I won't be on for another week, i'd prefer it if the thread dropped but that won't happen. Sub conciously I beleive a lot of people on here would like to change hence the reason for such an interest in my thread.

Oh Steve, Steve, Steve...

See, your giant problem is that you refuse to do any work. No research, no talking to anyone, no effort. And part of that has led to this mistaken conclusion. See, around here we like trolls of your flavor. The ones that are just funny. If you'd taken the time to look around and see how people on this board post you'd discover that this is not a new behavior but a repeated one done with various trolls spouting various ideas.

But then that would require you to actually do some research, something you've already stated you see no point in doing.

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RE: Bdsm is wrong - 1/16/2011 11:58:34 AM

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