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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:01:48 AM   
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And hunkie is confused I think

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:05:20 AM   
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Note tho that on that side of the pond- they can (??) hinder a driver license

Huh? What does having a driving license have to do with any loan? PA, Misinformation sweetie.

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and put a lien on a house over a bad student loan..

What is a lien?


a lien is a paper filed with the court that say you owe me money, and if you sell your house I have rights to the money you owe me out of the proceeds.

And hunkie is confused I think, actually cant tell, they can do that here,  if they have the big case of the ass at you, put a judgement against your house and fuck up your drivers license, sieze your tax return money, whatever to satisfy the debt. 


How do they fuck up your drivers licence in the states? Does it have to list you as a credit risk? The worse we get over here is a few points if you fuck up speeding or actually break the law.

As for taking out loans and the whole house issue... I think it shows that PA doesn't know how student loans work. And honestly... anyone under 35 with a mortgage these days is pretty slim.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:07:09 AM   
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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:08:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		As for taking out loans and the whole house issue... I think it shows that PA doesn't know how student loans work. And honestly... anyone under 35 with a mortgage these days is pretty slim.

The government on this side of the pond is assumed to last forever, they got your number (soc sec) they can wait until you got something worth getting fucked back for.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:13:52 AM   
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Nope, they will suspend or revoke it.

In the UK your driving license is a document between you and one government agency (the DVLA - Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency), and other agencies cannot revoke it. Even the DVLA cannot revoke it unless you break the motoring laws. Repeatedly. Or dramatically*. Or your license expires through old age (currently set to 70 on my license).

*the week after the current "points" system came into force** a youngster managed to rack up 54 points in a drunken motorised rampage. What made it even funnier was he was too young to have a license I remember thinking "fair play, son, that's dedication to a cause"
**a "normal" bit of relatively trivial speeding will cost you 3 points; rack up 12 in any 3 year period and you'll be banned for anything from 30 days to 2 years, depending on the frequency and severity of the offences

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:16:42 AM   
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Nope, they will suspend or revoke it.


I can see how that could be fucked up, but that doesn't happen in the UK.
(Defers to Mr RF's post).

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:26:36 AM   
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Nope, they will suspend or revoke it.


I can see how that could be fucked up, but that doesn't happen in the UK.
(Defers to Mr RF's post).

One I've just thought of - if your doctor feels that you have suffered an illness or injury that precludes you from driving* s/he can apply to the DVLA have your license revoked without either your consent or permission, but even under that extreme circumstance it's the DVLA that pulls it, not any other agency.

Even committing a non-motoring crime doesn't necessarily preclude you from having a license; you can happily steal, defraud and murder and, as soon as you've paid your debt to society, you can drive yourself home from prison

*things like severe epilepsy, brain tumour, some chemo treatments that cause cognitive problems, or the onset of a mental health issue severe enough to make you unfit to drive**
**PA would most definitely be a pedestrian in the UK

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:26:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can a Collection Agency Suspend Your Licenses? | eHow.co.ukOct 5, 2010... can suspend a debtor's driver's or professional license if she has defaulted on certain types of debt, such as student loans, ...
www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7286834_can-collection-agency-suspend-licenses_.html

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:28:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Student Loan Default - How To Information | eHow.co.ukCan a Lien Be Placed on My Home Due to Defaulted Student Loans? ... It can prevent people from getting a car, house or loan. If you defaulted your student ...
www.ehow.co.uk/student-loan-default/

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Ron- the rules are stricter in UK- EU- then in the US on this.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:30:39 AM   
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Can a Collection Agency Suspend Your Licenses? | eHow.co.ukOct 5, 2010... can suspend a debtor's driver's or professional license if she has defaulted on certain types of debt, such as student loans, ...
www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7286834_can-collection-agency-suspend-licenses_.html

Wrong. Again. Doesn't apply to the UK, and only applies to professional licenses - i.e. commercial trucking and PSV licenses under very specific circumstances. None of which would apply to default of student loans.

That page may appear under a “co.uk” banner, but it’s not UK law.

Try again.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:33:34 AM   
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Can a Collection Agency Suspend Your Licenses? | eHow.co.ukOct 5, 2010... can suspend a debtor's driver's or professional license if she has defaulted on certain types of debt, such as student loans, ...
www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7286834_can-collection-agency-suspend-licenses_.html


PA... you need to reread because you don't seem to understand what it states - you have taken it out of context.

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Professional regulatory boards, courts, as well as state driver's license agencies, can suspend a debtor's driver's or professional license if she has defaulted on certain types of debt, such as student loans, child support, or traffic fines. For example, if someone has a lot of unpaid traffic tickets, their driver's license may be suspended. Similarly, if a lawyer hasn't paid his child support, his license to practice may be suspended.


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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:35:59 AM   
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Ron- the rules are stricter in UK- EU- then in the US on this.


Obviously not.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:37:20 AM   
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Can a Collection Agency Suspend Your Licenses? | eHow.co.ukOct 5, 2010... can suspend a debtor's driver's or professional license if she has defaulted on certain types of debt, such as student loans, ...
www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7286834_can-collection-agency-suspend-licenses_.html


PA... you need to reread because you don't seem to understand what it states - you have taken it out of context.

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Professional regulatory boards, courts, as well as state driver's license agencies, can suspend a debtor's driver's or professional license if she has defaulted on certain types of debt, such as student loans, child support, or traffic fines. For example, if someone has a lot of unpaid traffic tickets, their driver's license may be suspended. Similarly, if a lawyer hasn't paid his child support, his license to practice may be suspended.



You can not lose your drivers license over a bad student loan in the US.

Most of the older loans- you do not lose your house over a student loan.

Yes- they follow you for life- and can garnish wages...  but it is not as bad as UK-EU - yet.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:37:33 AM   
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PA... you need to reread because you don't seem to understand what it states - you have taken it out of context.

He doesn't "do" Reading Comprehension 101. He's forever doing this - not reading sources properly, jumping to conclusions, etc etc.

Honestly, it’s like trying to have a conversation with a 5 year-old sometimes.

It's a page hosted on a UK site that's been copied verbatim from a US source - it even mentions "states" FFS, which (as you know) we don't have here, nor the concept of "federal" law, at least not as it applies in that context

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:38:38 AM   
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You can not lose your drivers license over a bad student loan in the US.

You can't in the UK either.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:39:16 AM   
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Ron- the rules are stricter in UK- EU- then in the US on this.


Obviously not.


Then have it your way.   Nothing but bliss and glad tidings from the students in the UK.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:40:10 AM   
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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:42:25 AM   
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Nope, they will suspend or revoke it.


I can see how that could be fucked up, but that doesn't happen in the UK.
(Defers to Mr RF's post).

One I've just thought of - if your doctor feels that you have suffered an illness or injury that precludes you from driving* s/he can apply to the DVLA have your license revoked without either your consent or permission, but even under that extreme circumstance it's the DVLA that pulls it, not any other agency.

Even committing a non-motoring crime doesn't necessarily preclude you from having a license; you can happily steal, defraud and murder and, as soon as you've paid your debt to society, you can drive yourself home from prison

*things like severe epilepsy, brain tumour, some chemo treatments that cause cognitive problems, or the onset of a mental health issue severe enough to make you unfit to drive**
**PA would most definitely be a pedestrian in the UK


There are more trivial conditions that can lead to that as well. A lot of type 1 diabetics are banned.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:43:29 AM   
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Ron- the rules are stricter in UK- EU- then in the US on this.


Obviously not.


Then have it your way.   Nothing but bliss and glad tidings from the students in the UK.

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Pah, you're wrong, that website is talking about usaican law (note words like 'federal'). I know you're mad but you can at least read if you concentrate.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/10/2010 7:44:14 AM   
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