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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:25:31 PM

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You said morality evolved it can't evolve. Morality is judged at any fixed point in time as being one thing at that time. It's neither of superior design nor inferior, it's human perception of what is right based on desires and values at that time and absolutely nothing to do with evolution. People use the word evolution too often in discussions. My original meaning was to say "What the fuck are you talking about? What is this evolution of morality you talk of?"

The point of evolution is that things evolve over time to suit their environment, we live in similar environments but our sense of morality differs. Therefore morality has not evolved to suit our environment because morality doesn't evolve.

You write two lines about giraffes and you say people should be able to find deeper meaning from it and realise you aren't an idiot whilst assuming everyone else here is??? Well fuck off you.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:32:22 PM

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You said morality evolved it can't evolve. Morality is judged at any fixed point in time as being one thing at that time. It's neither of superior design nor inferior, it's human perception of what is right based on desires and values at that time and absolutely nothing to do with evolution. People use the word evolution too often in discussions. My original meaning was to say "What the fuck are you talking about? What is this evolution of morality you talk of?"

The point of evolution is that things evolve over time to suit their environment, we live in similar environments but our sense of morality differs. Therefore morality has not evolved to suit our environment because morality doesn't evolve.

You write two lines about giraffes and you say people should be able to find deeper meaning from it and realise you aren't an idiot whilst assuming everyone else here is??? Well fuck off you.

More evidence of your inability to engage in intelligent discussion. Nor do you understand evolution.

There was no deep meaning to my statement, its meaning was quite surface and obvious: you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:33:43 PM

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After the Seals rescued the captain of the Maersk Alabama nearly every conservative on this board was criticizing Obama for assassinating those poor, helpless teenagers.

Such bullshit you spout, RML. Now there was a bit of parody from Limbaugh about what spin and coverage Bush II might have gotten under similar circumstances, and perhaps one of our departed conservatives riffed on it, but what you posted is just a stupid fucking lie.

Why, here's a link to just that discussion.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2552371/mpage_1/tm.htm
Perhaps you'd care to offer some evidence of your dumbass assertion? Or would just vanishing from the topic be more convenient for you?

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:34:57 PM

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After the Seals rescued the captain of the Maersk Alabama nearly every conservative on this board was criticizing Obama for assassinating those poor, helpless teenagers.

Such bullshit you spout, RML. Now there was a bit of parody from Limbaugh about what spin and coverage Bush II might have gotten under similar circumstances, and perhaps one of our departed conservatives riffed on it, but what you posted is just a stupid fucking lie.

Why, here's a link to just that discussion.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2552371/mpage_1/tm.htm
Perhaps you'd care to offer some evidence of your dumbass assertion? Or would just vanishing from the topic be more convenient for you?

In fact the criticism wasnt with the action but how long it took him to authorize it.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:36:45 PM

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I called him on it, rather politely; I hoped he would further expose himself. He didn't take the bait.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:41:08 PM

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There was no deep meaning to my statement, its meaning was quite surface and obvious: you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

There is no deep meaning to your existence either it seems.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:45:07 PM

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You said morality evolved it can't evolve.

And as far as this statement goes, you might want to start with

this

or

this

or

this

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:48:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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There was no deep meaning to my statement, its meaning was quite surface and obvious: you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

There is no deep meaning to your existence either it seems.

Theres no meaning to anyones existence.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 4:52:57 PM

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and yet here you are still having not killed yourself yet.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:05:03 PM

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and yet here you are still having not killed yourself yet.

another non sequiter. When youve dug yourself into a hole, stop digging.

Now do you want to defend your asinine statements about evolution and the evolution of morality or are you conceding you didnt know what youre talking about?

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:06:32 PM

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FR:

Damn. I take Treasure out Christmas shopping, and my thread is now 5 pages long. I thought "wow! Must be some good discussing going on!".

Well, there is ... but not about Obama, Clinton or the news conference.

I think the evolution of morality is a very interesting topic, and therefore deserves it own thread.

Please take it there, amigos.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:10:07 PM

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Buy me something nice, Firm?

~grins

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:10:51 PM

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FR:

Damn. I take Treasure out Christmas shopping, and my thread is now 5 pages long. I thought "wow! Must be some good discussing going on!".

Well, there is ... but not about Obama, Clinton or the news conference.

I think the evolution of morality is a very interesting topic, and therefore deserves it own thread.

Please take it there, amigos.

Firm

Apologies for the hijack, Firm. You know I can't help toying with the intellectually defenseless mice that all to frequently infest this board.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:12:26 PM

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There is no hole, you are talking bollocks. Anyone can read what you've said to me in this entire thread and see it was shite from start to finish. No matter how you spin it now you've been talking bollocks, no getting away from that.

You are trying to use the 'better to keep quiet about your ignorance than open your mouth and remove all doubt' approach. It isn't working, people know you are talking out of your arse, the only person that isn't convinced of the fact you are talking out of your arse is you.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:13:41 PM

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There is no hole, you are talking bollocks. Anyone can read what you've said to me in this entire thread and see it was shite from start to finish. No matter how you spin it now you've been talking bollocks, no getting away from that.

You are trying to use the 'better to keep quiet about your ignorance than open your mouth and remove all doubt' approach. It isn't working, people know you are talking out of your arse, the only person that isn't convinced of the fact you are talking out of your arse is you.

Concession acknowledged.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:24:31 PM

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You said I was digging a hole I said I wasn't actually engaged in the activity of digging a hole.

It's hard to concede anything when all the other person says are things like "oh you are wrong. Wrong wrong wrong" or "My little finger knows more about evolution than my brain does"

Like I said it's the 'say as little as possible approach whilst stating everyone else is wrong'. It works for a limited time but you need a new approach once found out.

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:29:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

You said I was digging a hole I said I wasn't actually engaged in the activity of digging a hole.

It's hard to concede anything when all the other person says are things like "oh you are wrong. Wrong wrong wrong" or "My little finger knows more about evolution than my brain does"

Like I said it's the 'say as little as possible approach whilst stating everyone else is wrong'. It works for a limited time but you need a new approach once found out.

Take it to another thread, please.

Firm

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:30:04 PM

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Buy me something nice, Firm?

~grins

Maybe a concession post in the "identity" thread?

Firm

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:31:02 PM

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~grins

saw no concession post. What i did see made me smile though. Thank You!

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RE: Clinton-Obama Impromptu Press Conference - 12/11/2010 5:32:02 PM

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Apologies for the hijack, Firm.

Accepted, thanks.

I'm not too much of an ass about staying on topic, as a normal conversation tends all over the map, but this sidebar went on quite a while ..

Firm

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