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LadyPact -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/24/2010 9:03:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

What a two-dimensional transposition of what I said. No wonder I removed this post. No one understood it, preferring to understand what they hoped I'd said. Casting pearls before swine is never a bright event.

You do realize that a pearl is just originally some kind of outside contaminant that the oyster is trying to stop from being an irritant.  Same thing.  Just because you shoved some crap in here doesn't make it valuable.




hausboy -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/24/2010 9:22:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

What a two-dimensional transposition of what I said. No wonder I removed this post. No one understood it, preferring to understand what they hoped I'd said. Casting pearls before swine is never a bright event.

You do realize that a pearl is just originally some kind of outside contaminant that the oyster is trying to stop from being an irritant.  Same thing.  Just because you shoved some crap in here doesn't make it valuable.



And interestingly enough.... it's usually a parasite...the mollusk forms a sac around the parasitic agent (or other irritant) and the subsequent secretions forms our pearl.

oh the irony.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/24/2010 9:30:54 PM)

While I can't speak for other Dominants.... What I've come to embrace about being a Dom as part of my own lifestyle is that... I don't have to fly out of control, throw or toss a temper tantrum to get my way, or engage in mindless violence when I'm upset. The aspects of self control (compared to wacked out vanilla's that are not). I mean yeah, I might punish somebody, but they know straight up WTF is going on and not have to literally fear for their fucking life. I might use and abuse them for my own pleasure, but it's for just that, not cause I'm full of hatred for life.

There are more than enough Domineering vanilla men with lack of self control in this world. There are also plenty of men that are totally passive aggressive as well, or that feel awkward in stepping up to the plate with backbone when required.

If somebody thinks that WTF some of us all do is not actually part of our lifestyle, they should reflect upon matters a little more and take a deeper look.




wulfenstraat -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/24/2010 11:22:36 PM)

Get a life.  Don't take this kink so seriously...unless the textbook definition actually applies to you...in which case you should be insulted..




LadyPact -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/24/2010 11:44:48 PM)

Why should I be insulted?  I am living My life in such a way that is most fulfilling to Me, which is something that you can't exactly say, can you?

Oh yeah.  All of those things that you wish you had, are My reality.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:03:54 AM)

LadyP.. if I were to tell you that clamps are a hard limit for me.. that caning SOMETIMES works for me.. or that I like thuddy floggers..

am I topping from the bottom?




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:04:38 AM)

Pulling out the ever so popular and over used "Get a Life" phrase... (I'm smiling out of pure Entertainment now)... Yeah, there's many textbook definitions that do and don't apply... Trust me, I'm not offended but rather amused. Every so often I'll feed the bears, trolls and anything else that's crawls out from dark places. I do take some aspects of life seriously... (putting on my best impression of Richard Dean Anderson from SG-1) "and this is a bad thing how?" It's not like I don't have a sense of humor let alone a life. (Double checking my pulse and taking a moment to reflect upon the true quality of my life). I'll be certain to schedule an appointment with Dr. House this next week.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that some people are just into the Kinky sex aspects of all this madness. However, it does, it can and will extend past just being kinky sex for many other people. Despite the misconceptions and delusional beliefs expressed in contrast to this.

The reality is such, I exist therefore I am... it sort of screws with certain peoples one wayisms. Then again to quote Bender from the Breakfast Club "Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place."




LadyPact -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:07:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

LadyP.. if I were to tell you that clamps are a hard limit for me.. that caning SOMETIMES works for me.. or that I like thuddy floggers..

am I topping from the bottom?

Well, I tend to think it means two things.

1.  We have a place to start. (and)

2.  You'd probably play with Me before you'd even think of playing with the OP.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:10:02 AM)

well, yeah.. that's a given :)

Merry Christmas you all.. *hugs*

(btw.. I'll be around most of the day tomorrow -today? or after 9am on Sunday..   )




LadyConstanze -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:12:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Why should I be insulted?  I am living My life in such a way that is most fulfilling to Me, which is something that you can't exactly say, can you?

Oh yeah.  All of those things that you wish you had, are My reality.



I can't recall having heard you ever complain that you can't find anybody...

In all fairness, while some people on this site are a bit "odd", I met quite a lot of lovely people on here. But I guess we're both in a charmed position, happily partnered with plenty of opportunities to get our kink on. It must be frustrating if you're looking, feel lonely, are paranoid somebody might actually expect something from you and wondering why it doesn't work - instead of taking a good look of what you're doing wrong, it's so much easier to blame others...




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:12:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

LadyP.. if I were to tell you that clamps are a hard limit for me.. that caning SOMETIMES works for me.. or that I like thuddy floggers..

am I topping from the bottom?


Oh come on now... everybody already knows you're a GreedyTop even when your on the bottom. :-P Merry Christmas back at you.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 12:14:45 AM)

LOL




DarkSteven -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 3:17:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

Get a life.  Don't take this kink so seriously...unless the textbook definition actually applies to you...in which case you should be insulted..


This isn't a "kink" for me.  It's the way that I relate to women that I'm in a relationship with.

And yes, I do take that seriously.  As well I should!




angelikaJ -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 5:29:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

Get a life.  Don't take this kink so seriously...unless the textbook definition actually applies to you...in which case you should be insulted..


But you see, you gave no "wiggle room" in your definitions.

There was no textbook to speak of except that of your own experience.
Your experience is perfectly valid as far as you are concerned.
The flaw is when you try to apply what has been true for you and say it must be true for everyone else.

You do have another option: you can take an honest look at the common factors in your experiences, one of which it must be said is you... and see what it is that is making the experience so horrible for you.
By your account, it is the people you are picking.
Again the common denominator is that you are picking them.

This is not meant as an insult: perhaps at the moment your 'people picker' is off.

So the question would be, is it more efficacious to blame the other person or to try to fix the problem... which would be finding people who are not as you have portrayed. They most certainly exist as I haven't run into any of the type you have depicted.

Why are you drawn to people like that?
Why are you finding the same type over and over... ?
Isn't it time to do something different?
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

AUTOBIOGRAPHY IN FIVE SHORT CHAPTERS
by Portia Nelson

I

I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk
I fall in.
I am lost ... I am helpless.
It isn't my fault.
It takes me forever to find a way out.

II

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend I don't see it.
I fall in again.
I can't believe I am in the same place
but, it isn't my fault.
It still takes a long time to get out.

III

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in ... it's a habit.
my eyes are open
I know where I am.
It is my fault.
I get out immediately.

IV

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.

V

I walk down another street.

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I hope you find what you seek.




Darkfeather -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/25/2010 7:27:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

Get a life.  Don't take this kink so seriously...unless the textbook definition actually applies to you...in which case you should be insulted..


These responses remind me of the Monty Python Skit "I'd Like To Buy An Arguement Please"
And if you need help with the analogy, you'd be John Cleese here




oldbabyface -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/26/2010 11:14:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
It's rather amusing to read broad stroke generalizations by another person on this site, when they have no idea in hell the paths that other people have walked or are walking in life.

It's also very tedious as well.  Anyone with their eyes open and a bit of mileage knows you have to treat people as individuals as they rarely conform to simple stereotypes.






wulfenstraat -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/27/2010 3:48:24 PM)

What? Is that all you got? Are you just playing at domination? Isn't there one true dominant among you? Where's the sadistic young lady who can cut with a word? Yeah, it's what I thought. There's no more BDSM here, because the D dominants and S sadists have left the room. All that's left is what's in between, only B**M, only the occasional Bowel Movement.




Buzzzz -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/27/2010 5:40:58 PM)

I don't think anybody has to "got" anything... looks like you are looking for a confrontation of some sort.[sm=AttentionWhore.gif]




DesFIP -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/27/2010 5:55:31 PM)

There are a great many dominants and submissives on this site, many of whom are in happy long term relationships. By your own admission, you aren't either of those nor looking for either of those, so why are you denigrating relationships that do not correspond with what you claim to be looking for?




LadyPact -> RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom (12/27/2010 6:04:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

What? Is that all you got? Are you just playing at domination? Isn't there one true dominant among you? Where's the sadistic young lady who can cut with a word? Yeah, it's what I thought. There's no more BDSM here, because the D dominants and S sadists have left the room. All that's left is what's in between, only B**M, only the occasional Bowel Movement.

Yep.  That's all I've got.  Just Me, the hubby, the boys, and the play partners.  I save the 'true' sadism for those who are worth spending My energy on.  Sorry that you don't quite make the bar, but I'll let clip know just how disappointed that you are for him.




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