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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 12:51:39 PM   
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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 1:07:22 PM   
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A parents worst nightmare, should the man be tried as a murderer, or given a hero's welcome? 
Very sad, all the way around. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40802592/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa



A hero's welcome? Girl, did you just wander out of the loony bin through a blind spot on the security monitors?


Am I the only one with my head cocked to one side, looking at the screen and thinking now thats some damn irony right there!

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 1:13:23 PM   
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Well, she's in a better place now acting as one of "Omar the Goat Roper's" 72 virgins.


She's dead, gone, whichever way you want to turn it... As an atheist, I consider it bad taste to make fun of ANY religion, the fact that it is important for people in a spiritual way makes it important enough for me to not crack cheap jokes about it but if you want to go there, I don't see all that much difference between a virgin birth and virgins in paradise, both are pretty much in the realm of fantasy for me, but if it doesn't float my boat, it's not enough reason for me to sink somebody elses boat and be insulting to their belief just because I can. Any dick can be a pest, and no dick is too small to catch an STD....

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 1:36:39 PM   
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A parents worst nightmare, should the man be tried as a murderer, or given a hero's welcome? 
Very sad, all the way around. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40802592/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa



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A hero's welcome? Girl, did you just wander out of the loony bin through a blind spot on the security monitors?



Am I the only one with my head cocked to one side, looking at the screen and thinking now thats some damn irony right there!



LOL.  No, JstAnotherSub, your not.   

Against my better judgement....

Jaybee, to some the man is being raised up as a model citizen and should be given full honors for preventing another suicide bombing.  I did not say those were MY thoughts.  Interesting to note though, that anyone who disagrees with you must be insane.  I bet that makes you popular at parties. 





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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 2:02:27 PM   
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So what do you propose to do about it, play the Caped Avenger?
We had three killings here in the Myrtle Beach, SC area over the last month or so. What would you do about it, fly over and tell the local cops and D.A. to step aside?
And there's that word again, "world." Each country is responsable for itself and it's people.
As for Ghandi he never went to Detroit did he?
There's a good bumper sticker in the U.S.; "Think locally act locally."
You seem to be suffering from, "The Great White Bwana" syndrome.

What is your point? You are making a lot of assumptions about what I want based on me refuting your view that I can only change things by taking up arms.

It's good you mention the D.A., you'll note the D.A. is part of the justice system so why would 'I' be asking them to step aside? You make no sense. Everyone should be entitled to justice not just those that happen to have been born in the right place.

'Think locally act locally' we have a similar saying: 'I'm alright Jack.'


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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 2:07:38 PM   
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A parents worst nightmare, should the man be tried as a murderer, or given a hero's welcome? 
Very sad, all the way around. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40802592/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa



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A hero's welcome? Girl, did you just wander out of the loony bin through a blind spot on the security monitors?



Am I the only one with my head cocked to one side, looking at the screen and thinking now thats some damn irony right there!



LOL.  No, JstAnotherSub, your not.   

Against my better judgement....

Jaybee, to some the man is being raised up as a model citizen and should be given full honors for preventing another suicide bombing.  I did not say those were MY thoughts.  Interesting to note though, that anyone who disagrees with you must be insane.  I bet that makes you popular at parties. 




I'd very much like to meet whoever it is lauding this murder, and commit THEM to a mental asylum. I don't debate at parties, far more fun things to do.

As for the logic of what you "noted", that alone gives my original question ample grounds. As such, I don't want a reply from you on any of this, although I'm sure you have nothing better to do with your time.

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 4:21:52 PM   
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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 4:40:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		What ever actually happens, just imagine living in a kind of country that father vs daughter fighting isn't what she's wearing to school but whether or not she'll wear a bomb!


FUCK



Yeah, the dad probably just flipped a lid and killed the girl,but it was an investigation that found out she was dead, so she probably did have some connections with the terrorist element.Then again,shit, it's still plausible that this girl was attracted to al-qaida and that the civil war in iraq isn't like ours, brother vs brother, but is ripping households apart.


times like this I'm sooo glad I live in this country(for all its problems...I'd still rather be in the netherlands)




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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 4:42:16 PM   
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One question only. Where, in this country or not ?

This is a yes or no question. Period.

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 4:51:54 PM   
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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/24/2010 5:00:27 PM   
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Ten square miles surrounding the Capitol and government bases and installations. Expanded (technically) to include the territories of the several states, and later Hawaii and Alaska. Puerto Rico is whatever, we are not talking about Puerto Rico.

At what latitude and longitude did this happen, and is that point on the surface of this planet under our jurisdiction or not ?

The obvious answer is no, but you would be surprised how many people do not know that.

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/26/2010 11:28:46 AM   
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Well, she's in a better place now acting as one of "Omar the Goat Roper's" 72 virgins.


She's dead, gone, whichever way you want to turn it... As an atheist, I consider it bad taste to make fun of ANY religion, the fact that it is important for people in a spiritual way makes it important enough for me to not crack cheap jokes about it but if you want to go there, I don't see all that much difference between a virgin birth and virgins in paradise, both are pretty much in the realm of fantasy for me, but if it doesn't float my boat, it's not enough reason for me to sink somebody elses boat and be insulting to their belief just because I can. Any dick can be a pest, and no dick is too small to catch an STD....


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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/26/2010 10:50:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Assuming that the story is true as it has been relayed to us, isn't there a precedent in the Bible that might be a guide to help us in this?

Something about God demanding that Abraham sacrifice his son or something .... As I recall Abraham was on the point of doing it when God let him off the hook.

At the religious school I had the misfortune of attending, they taught us that Abraham's choices and behaviour were noble and honourable......

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/26/2010 11:14:55 PM   
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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/27/2010 5:24:40 AM   
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Assuming that the story is true as it has been relayed to us, isn't there a precedent in the Bible that might be a guide to help us in this?

Something about God demanding that Abraham sacrifice his son or something .... As I recall Abraham was on the point of doing it when God let him off the hook.

At the religious school I had the misfortune of attending, they taught us that Abraham's choices and behaviour were noble and honourable......


It also states, "Thou Shalt Not Murder". And the rule still applies.

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/27/2010 5:39:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		The story of Abraham was in Genesis. The story of the commandments was in Exodus. If you are going to cherry pick the bible apart to try and make a case.. make the right one.

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/27/2010 5:40:49 AM   
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Assuming that the story is true as it has been relayed to us, isn't there a precedent in the Bible that might be a guide to help us in this?

Something about God demanding that Abraham sacrifice his son or something .... As I recall Abraham was on the point of doing it when God let him off the hook.

At the religious school I had the misfortune of attending, they taught us that Abraham's choices and behaviour were noble and honourable......


It also states, "Thou Shalt Not Murder". And the rule still applies.


Should I understand that you are saying Abraham was wrong to choose to murder his son then?

Please clarify which rule should be followed - it's either "Thou shalt obey the Lord thy God" or "Thou shalt not murder". Obviously Abraham couldn't satisfy both injunctions.



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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/27/2010 5:57:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tweakabelle, people are not consistent, so even if the Bible HAD been written by a single person, it would have contradictions.  It was written by multiple people.  It is not entirely consistent.

Forgive me for being statistical at this point, but...A rational person in a situation like this would try to get the overall gist of the Bible, tempering the actual words with an understanding of their context.  The nutcase zealots pick the outlier statements in it (or in the Quran, book of Mormon, etc.), and ignore the context, in order to justify insanity.




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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/27/2010 6:16:41 AM   
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Assuming that the story is true as it has been relayed to us, isn't there a precedent in the Bible that might be a guide to help us in this?

Something about God demanding that Abraham sacrifice his son or something .... As I recall Abraham was on the point of doing it when God let him off the hook.

At the religious school I had the misfortune of attending, they taught us that Abraham's choices and behaviour were noble and honourable......


It also states, "Thou Shalt Not Murder". And the rule still applies.


Should I understand that you are saying Abraham was wrong to choose to murder his son then?


If He demands it, then the act isn't Murder, it's a sacrifice.

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Please clarify which rule should be followed - it's either "Thou shalt obey the Lord thy God" or "Thou shalt not murder". Obviously Abraham couldn't satisfy both injunctions.


You follow the last set of instructions in hand, however aged. He's God, He doesn't have to state, "Until I tell you to do otherwise".

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RE: Father kills daughter for ties to al-Qaida - 12/27/2010 6:27:58 AM   
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Tweakabelle, people are not consistent, so even if the Bible HAD been written by a single person, it would have contradictions.  It was written by multiple people.  It is not entirely consistent.

Forgive me for being statistical at this point, but...A rational person in a situation like this would try to get the overall gist of the Bible, tempering the actual words with an understanding of their context.  The nutcase zealots pick the outlier statements in it (or in the Quran, book of Mormon, etc.), and ignore the context, in order to justify insanity.





I read somewhere that "God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered in the Bible".*

Is that enough of an "overall gist of the Bible, tempering the actual words with an understanding of their context" for you? Are you saying I selected the wrong murder(s)?

Nor can contradictions about issues as important as murder and obeying the Lord be dismissed as "outlier" issues. They are surely central to the message of the Bible, if that text is to have any credibility or relevance.

You can read all about it here:
http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

*www.evilbible.com

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