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ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (4/30/2006 11:04:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Look, we all know Men are supreme ok [:)]


Ah, heck.  I thought only this pizza in front of me was Supreme. 




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (4/30/2006 11:05:16 PM)

I think some people call male supremacy everyday life or vanilla.
Fem supremacy is not any more generally accepted than your foot or gag fetish.   As with any other kink, if you don't like, don't participate.    M




ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (4/30/2006 11:07:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: puella

hehehe...

Now you know, jali, that I personally do tend to agree on that.. they do have way better toys to play with than we do, thats for sure!


A little boy and a little girl were at a picnic, out playing in the woods.  The both felt the urge to pee.  The little girl pulled down her panties, pulled up her skirt and squated to do so.  The little boy pulled down his zipper, pulled out his penis and started to pee.

The little girl looked in amazement and said, "My, what a handy gadget to have on a picnic."




ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (4/30/2006 11:12:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I was being sarcastic. I meant it in a way of females get away with more hatred towards the other gender than males do towards women. Of course a woman is not allowed to shoot a man by law.



Everybody gets away with hatred, since hatred is perfectly legal.  Women are convicted of crimes against the other gender far less often then men are because they COMMIT crimes against the other gender far less often than men do.




naughtynick -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:08:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ServiceNTucson

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I was being sarcastic. I meant it in a way of females get away with more hatred towards the other gender than males do towards women. Of course a woman is not allowed to shoot a man by law.



Everybody gets away with hatred, since hatred is perfectly legal.  Women are convicted of crimes against the other gender far less often then men are because they COMMIT crimes against the other gender far less often than men do.


Wrong, statistics say women commit just as much domestic violence as men do. When a man commits domestic violence, more people blow the whistle on it.




naughtynick -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:13:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TakingYou1

Well...the reality is that EVERYTHING about women is a double-standard. A minister's wife blows him away and she gets an outpouring of sympathy and support from the nation. A woman gets pulled over for speeding and avoids the ticket. Etc., etc., etc. Women, like children, are miserable when they don't have any accountability or structure. Has anyone known a self-proclaimed "feminist" to be actually happy or content? What they really need are liberal spankings.


Sad but true.




ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:41:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Wrong, statistics say women commit just as much domestic violence as men do. When a man commits domestic violence, more people blow the whistle on it.



I am quite unimpressed with statistics without knowing who compiled them, what the compiler's political agenda is, and what criteria were used in the compilation.

I'm quite sure "statistics" will also show that FAR more women are murdered by men than vice versa and that the number of men raped by women is only a tiny fraction of the number of women raped by men.  I'd also love to see some "statistics" on the number of men forced into prostitution by women.  Ditto with child molestation.  While the press has provided a lot of titilating coverage of a few cases of women commiting statutory rape lately, I'd bet dollars to donuts that for every female statutory rapist there are dozens of men guilty of the same crime.

To quote Benjamin Disraeli, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." 




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:49:57 AM)

ServiceNtucson you're not playing along very well here.  This thread was begun allegedly because of naughty's interest in the kink of fem supremacy, but he seems decidedly more interested in showing how badly women suck (guessing as a result of currently not having one who sucks), LMAO.   M




ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:55:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

ServiceNtucson you're not playing along very well here.  This thread was begun allegedly because of naughty's interest in the kink of fem supremacy, but he seems decidedly more interested in showing how badly women suck (guessing as a result of currently not having one who sucks), LMAO.   M


<<<<<< sucks.  And swallows.




BitaTruble -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:58:23 AM)

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I am quite unimpressed with statistics without knowing who compiled them, what the compiler's political agenda is, and what criteria were used in the compilation.

I'm quite sure "statistics" will also show that FAR more women are murdered by men than vice versa and that the number of men raped by women is only a tiny fraction of the number of women raped by men.  I'd also love to see some "statistics" on the number of men forced into prostitution by women.  Ditto with child molestation.  While the press has provided a lot of titilating coverage of a few cases of women commiting statutory rape lately, I'd bet dollars to donuts that for every female statutory rapist there are dozens of men guilty of the same crime.

To quote Benjamin Disraeli, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." 


*IPV = Intimate Partner Violence

In 2002, 76% of IPV homicide victims were female; 24% were male (Fox and Zawitz 2004).
 
The National Crime Victimization Survey found that 85% of IPV victims were women (Rennison 2003).
 
Studies show that for low levels of physical violence, men and women self-report perpetrating physical IPV at about the same rate.
 
The number of intimate partner homicides decreased 14% overall for men and women in the span of about 20 years, with a 67% decrease for men (from 1,357 to 388) vs. 25% for women (from 1,600 to 1,202; Fox and Zawitz 2004).
 
Intimate Partner Violence Prevention, Facts - NCIPC

I do believe that NCIPC is part of the CDC, but don't have to take my word for it since I included the actual link as a site reference. ;)

Celeste




naughtynick -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:03:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

ServiceNtucson you're not playing along very well here.  This thread was begun allegedly because of naughty's interest in the kink of fem supremacy, but he seems decidedly more interested in showing how badly women suck (guessing as a result of currently not having one who sucks), LMAO.   M


No I don't think women suck. I am just telling the truth. I say what I think.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:07:14 AM)

Actually BitaTruble, ServiceNtucson was saying this exact thing you proved with the statistical data...  It's Nick who said different.
ServiceNtucson, unless you open your profile, even if I point nick to you for being one who
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<<<<<< sucks.  And swallows
he won't be able to contact you, you naughty boy/girl??. [sm=lol.gif]   M




ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:08:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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I am quite unimpressed with statistics without knowing who compiled them, what the compiler's political agenda is, and what criteria were used in the compilation.

I'm quite sure "statistics" will also show that FAR more women are murdered by men than vice versa and that the number of men raped by women is only a tiny fraction of the number of women raped by men.  I'd also love to see some "statistics" on the number of men forced into prostitution by women.  Ditto with child molestation.  While the press has provided a lot of titilating coverage of a few cases of women commiting statutory rape lately, I'd bet dollars to donuts that for every female statutory rapist there are dozens of men guilty of the same crime.

To quote Benjamin Disraeli, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." 


*IPV = Intimate Partner Violence

In 2002, 76% of IPV homicide victims were female; 24% were male (Fox and Zawitz 2004).
 
The National Crime Victimization Survey found that 85% of IPV victims were women (Rennison 2003).
 
Studies show that for low levels of physical violence, men and women self-report perpetrating physical IPV at about the same rate.
 
The number of intimate partner homicides decreased 14% overall for men and women in the span of about 20 years, with a 67% decrease for men (from 1,357 to 388) vs. 25% for women (from 1,600 to 1,202; Fox and Zawitz 2004).
 
Intimate Partner Violence Prevention, Facts - NCIPC

I do believe that NCIPC is part of the CDC, but don't have to take my word for it since I included the actual link as a site reference. ;)

Celeste


Celeste,

Thank you.  This proves my point.  Out of all these figures, naughtynick chose only the one which agrees with his political agenda of "proving how badly women suck."




BitaTruble -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:09:24 AM)

Yes, I know.. and I was going to post that to Nick, but then ServiceInTuscon had a much better segue for it. :)




naughtynick -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:11:20 AM)

I googled this particular topic on domestic violence and this is what I got. I am not some men's rights activist moron but I find this interesting. I think femimism has more influence in the media than what people think. I hope this link works.

www.mens-rights.net/law/violence.htm





ServiceNTucson -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:12:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

Actually BitaTruble, ServiceNtucson was saying this exact thing you proved with the statistical data...  It's Nick who said different.
ServiceNtucson, unless you open your profile, even if I point nick to you for being one who
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<<<<<< sucks.  And swallows
he won't be able to contact you, you naughty boy/girl??. [sm=lol.gif]   M


Ms M,

My profile is open.  Unfortunately, the only way you can look at it is by putting my s/n in the "Username" field on CM's homepage.  AND I STILL CAN'T SEND E-MAIL ON THIS SITE.

Statistically 100% boy,




BitaTruble -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:15:18 AM)

Ok, so you a site source which come from a website with an agenda utilizing statistics which are 9 - 10 years old and I site a source from the CDC which has no agenda using current data.

[8|]

edited to add: sorry, the data at the NCIPC is from 2004, not 2005/6, but it's not 10 years old like the sources from the website for men-rights




naughtynick -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:23:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Ok, so you a site source which come from a website with an agenda utilizing statistics which are 9 - 10 years old and I site a source from the CDC which has no agenda using current data.

[8|]

edited to add: sorry, the data at the NCIPC is from 2004, not 2005/6, but it's not 10 years old like the sources from the website for men-rights



It does not matter how old or new it is. The point to it is women are just as guilty as men. Western society makes out that men are the only people who do wrong. It does not mean that I think women suck, but I do think feminsm sucks, and I also think the double standards women have suck. All I want is equally, no double standards and no different law depending on gender.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:35:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: catize

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 I've never seen a  man completely freak out at work and have a break down.  

Nope, he just goes to the bar after work and then when he gets home beats on the wife and kids. 

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  I've never seen a man ask for help as a general course of action,

Nope, he'd rather do it wrong than lower himself to asking for help.

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  I've never seen a man complain he can't wear shorts to work that let his ass hang out, either.

Actually, I've never seen a man or woman complain about anything, but I've heard them.



Ok, typo heard instead of seen, beat kids and men do it wrong. Excellent points, you really put me in my place. I never went home with any of the men from work so I can't tell on that aspect, maybe you have? I'm guessing that's how you know, first hand about the home lives of the people I've worked with. Hmmm, and I guess you're also privvy to error reports and production data from my past workplaces. I don't think I've seen you around. And good job pointing out the typo.

Lovely, thanks for your input appreciate the insight.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:42:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou
I don't believe one sex is better automatically, but I've definitely seen more women I would deem inferior. Mostly, in terms of mental stability, big thing for me. I've never seen a  man completely freak out at work and have a break down. I've seen women do this. I've never seen a man leave work, because of girlfriend problems, I've seen this mental breakdown several times. I've never seen a man ask for help as a general course of action, but it seems some women do this as par for the course, though don't even think about how it interfers with others work. I've never seen a man complain he can't wear shorts to work that let his ass hang out, either.


Other than the complaining about shorts that let the ass hang out, I have seen men do all these things and more in the workplace.  There are plenty of whining, immature, selfish, shallow, mental three year olds out there of both sexes. 

Men and women do tend to have different coping and communication styles, and both of these styles may possibly appear incorrect, unenlightened or immature to the other gender.  It makes sense to a woman to build networks, to promote teamwork and cooperation, to communicate extensively, to ask freely for help and advice, to negotiate a win-win business model and to listen thoughtfully to the needs and opinions of others.  It makes sense to a man to get his work done by himself, to compete in a win-lose business model, to only ask for help or advice if the alternative is utter failure, and to pay more attention to hard data than to morale in the workplace. 

Under some circumstances, the female business model works best and following the male model is likely to result in less real-world success.  Under other circumstances, the male business model works best and trying to go with a female style of management or communication isn't going to work effectively.  Intelligent people can be flexible enough to recognize and respect both of these models and possibly to use either one depending on circumstances.




You make alot of assumptions based on the little data I've given. Hardly enough to actually abstract that the reasons men at the places I've worked won't ask for help unless it means failure, or the women in question were teamplayers. LOL. Intelligent people can be flexible enough to recognize and respect the fact that different people have different experiences. Mine differs from yours.

Thanks.




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