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RE: Sadism as "affliction" - 1/10/2011 7:58:52 PM

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I have never quite figured out the cycles for myself, but do think my desires (to inflict pain and discomfort, to be predatory in a lustful way) are tied into coming off of periods of intense stress and lack of sleep (right after finals in college, right after a work project like an event that took a ton of planning and ended in a lot of stress). I've also sometimes noticed - maybe related or not - that I sometimes feel like I have a low grade flu or like you feel when you take cold medicine, but that might just be lack of sleep symptoms. Very weird!

How interesting. I remember an old dominant friend of mine mention the de-stressing after an intense period of pressure or work as also a time when he felt most predatory. There may be something to this. I imagine that if you carefully watch the symptoms--emotional or physical--every time it occurs you may start to notice more patterns associated with it.

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The other common environmental characteristic seems to be unobtainable desire - ie, lust for a person or situation that is simply not in my reach. To that end, sometimes people can be a 'muse' - if there's a person I want to dominate but cannot, or I want to express my sadism but it's absolutely not possible, then I seem to think about it a lot more. A pretty insightful boytoy pointed this out to me in the last year and I brushed it off a bit, but he's managed to point it out to me when it happens and he might be right.

I agree that the unobtainable can be extremely inspiring. I have often used my emotions for such individuals as an inpetus for my own writing. For me, it feels as though I "try harder" in my writing because I'm trying to impress/please this muse, whether they have knowledge of me and my writings or not. But, I do find that having a platonic relationship with the personification of a muse produces better content than a relationship more distant (such as that to a celebrity who is unaware of my existence), athough such relationships, if they remain platonic, are intensely frustrating. Oh, what some of us will do for art. ;)

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I can also recall girlish "crushes" on boys - both obtainable (a peer in a social group, a mysterious guy at a dance club) and unobtainable (a hot young rookie hockey player, a musician in a famous band, an actor with great eyes), and if I really let myself get immersed in the "crush," it can create a lot of good "gun powder" for my lust, which I can often redirect in any direction. Unfortunately, as I get older, this isn't quite as common. I suppose I am growing out of crushes in general, but I still sometimes get some serious puppy lust for a guy and it can get my predatory and sadistic urges going in a variety of ways.

Ah, well, I still get crushes at my age. I hope you never grow out of them. They are most fun: they are where the juices of life seem the richest. :) Since you eroticize pain and control, it makes perfect sense that any crush you developed would have those elements as a natural part of it. It's interesting that you can redirect your lust to a target that is not your crush. I have never tried that and don't know if I could. It's more my nature to long and pine after the unobtainable into perpetuity.

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I wish it were just a full moon though, then it would be easy to take advantage of and plan accordingly!
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That would make it most convenient, wouldn't it? ;) Although, were that so, perhaps your prey might also wise up to the pattern: some would make themselves scarce; and others would go walking alone in those dark alleys near your abode whistling a hopeful tune. :-p

The full moon is such an inspiration. I hate the clouded winter months when I cannot walk under one. A few days ago in my wanderings I caught a very nice sickle moon, though: yellowed and not too high in the sky, the kind that looks like a pair of demon horns. It was... tasty.

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RE: Sadism as "affliction" - 1/10/2011 11:46:33 PM

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im a slave but i identify with the op on the feelings of it being a hunger. unlike my Mistress i don't get to feed my masso side as often so it does get to be something like a burning desire approaching need after a few weeks. it leaves me feeling out of balance

I very much relate to how you feel here, Clip. When I am unable to serve my Master for a while, I too feel very off-balance. I get itchy almost, desperate and burning for a good, hard using. It slowly starts to affect my whole life, till I generally feel out of sorts and out of balance with my very nature.

Luckily, when it spreads to my entire life, it's easily fixed with a few simple things Master asks of me. Then I'm back in balance, though the really deep itch for sensual satisfaction of being possessed and taken and used doesn't abate until Master REALLY works me over good.

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RE: Sadism as "affliction" - 1/11/2011 7:11:29 AM

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most think of sadism as inappropriate behavior

To me, it is not so much behaviour as attitude. It is not a hunger, it just IS. I claim to be a sadist (on Fetlife I am sadistic_prick). But that does not mean that I practice sadism all the time in a performance sense. To me it is more mental.

Sure, I can tie 'em up with the best of them, I can 'torture' like the worst of them, I can do fantasy rape, erotic hypnosis, sensory deprivation, etc on demand. But I don't have to DO it, to gain satisfaction. Just knowing I can is enough. And knowing that at that particular moment I choose NOT to, is enough.

When I attend munches, people actually laugh at my name. I am too nice a guy, too gentle, too much of a gentleman. A father figure like the guy in Leave it to Beaver. (no pun intended). But they do not see the 100 cc between my ears that plots their humiliation. They do not see their naked bodies strapped upside down to the wall in my car port as I eat strawberries and cream with a long-handled spoon. They don't see me taking cash out of their purse and stapling the notes to their flesh. They see a gentle old man who is a 'bit past it'. And if they saw the sadist within, they would not believe it. Does it have an effect on them when I keep it inside my own head? No. Does it have an effect on me? Yes, it amuses me.

Is sadism an affliction? Only if it cannot be controlled. It is like alcoholism, smoking, gambling, and other stuff. Only a problem when it becomes ...... a problem.

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RE: Sadism as "affliction" - 1/11/2011 9:55:09 AM

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Sadism in its pure form IS an affliction. A sadist derives pleasure and gratification from inflicting emotional, mental and/ or physical pain to another living being. Consent does not factor in, nor does the welfare of the victim. But, history and scientific observation have shown time and again that many people, under the right circumstances will perform acts of sadism. This indicates to me that there is some base human instinct that is satiated by the suffering of others. Stress relief as previously mentioned is an excellent example. As practitioners of S&M, we play with these primitive cravings in a consensual and controlled way. We're not really sadists, we're tapping into the sadistic tendencies we all possess deep inside of us and airing them out for some playtime.

Let's talk about why we're masochists next! :)

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RE: Sadism as "affliction" - 1/12/2011 5:44:25 AM

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I used to be a warewolf but im alright nowwwww-oooh!

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RE: Sadism as "affliction" - 1/13/2011 10:32:27 AM

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