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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 6:48:26 AM   
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Thanks. RCdc and RapierFugue.. Yes Im sure not enjoying  this site at all. Not many people from colorado either way.. Yes people are blinded to see what she said but I dont think people get it, Oh well. I least I didnt lose anything. Im glad you guys dont think I was so mean but, I really trying to protect myself after having the whole Site of collarme agasinst me except you 2 thanks. I apperciate that you guys arent attacking me either.. I was even kind enough to say my appologies to everyone to just get this drama out the way. I dont like conflicks at all...

@Crazyml I think you need to read the whole to get it. Just the fact she sent the to me was really towards me.. I know she tried to play sweet by saying "Good Luck" at the end but its not working at all. its more like being a smart ass. but i hope all of this is in the past now cause Im just here to enjoy people entertainment..

Thanks alll
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Well, to be 100% fair, as I always try to be (not saying I always am, but I like to make the effort), you might try thinking of internet forums and chat rooms as a sort of bar one might frequent one evening. Now you know, in a social sense, that when one walks into a strange (i.e. new to you) bar, that the likelihood is that lots of people there will know each other, and have social relationships with one another, so you don't go in all guns blazing (not saying you did this, just that you know you wouldn’t do that IRL). Well any net forum’s kind of like that; people “know” each other, some through having met IRL, some merely through having exchanged pleasantries and messages with one another, etc., and thus some folk are apt to get a little defensive in regard to others. Now of course one can react to any potential jibe by immediately taking a swing at someone, but this just tends to lead to one having a lot of bar-fights, and meeting a lot of “cops” (who I suppose equate to the moderators on CM) and being thrown out of a lot of bars, or being ignored by most folk in the ones that do still let you in (the “ignore” facility on CM).

In general, and I'm not saying this is right or fair, if one is “new” somewhere (anywhere), the onus is on the individual to make friends, not on everyone else to make your life easy. So if that means one has to absorb a little dig now and again then so be it - it’s no skin off one’s nose to do so. Sorry about all these “ones” BTW, I’m just trying to make all this 3rd person, not 1st, if that makes any sense.

Now if someone does go for the jugular then of course you've every right to defend yourself, but only you can say what has truly upset you, and what has merely irritated. I read back this particular thread and I have to agree with RCdc that it rates about a 7.5 on the Clique-ter scale, so I don't “blame” you for getting a little hot under the collar (heh), but similarly (as just an example) if one is being attacked by someone who can’t actually harm you then there’s often not a lot of reason to bother being aggressive with them. It’s like punching a midget; fun, but not satisfying*.

There’s also the point that it’s difficult, if people don’t know you, for them to be sure of the context in which you mean a comment, but I see you've already grasped that by your comments above, so fair play.

Whew. What a lot of wordy crap. I do that quite a bit, sorry. Just trying to explain a few things.

As to what things are like in your locality, while there may not be all that many profiles from Colorado, my understanding (from listening to other people on CM who are in the US) is that often it’s better to use CM to find munches and meetings and such where you can go along and meet folk, rather than trying to plough through a load of profiles on CM itself. ISTR that there’s someone who either does live in Colorado, or used to, and posts regularly, so maybe they’ll get in touch or post to point you in the right direction.

Best of luck in your search.

*do I really have to label this as a joke so people don't pitch a fit? Ok, it’s a joke, M’kay?

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 6:59:18 AM   
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Yes you are ok. Im so over it already.. No need to worry hehee.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:01:51 AM   
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Kojoe - you did misinterpret my 2nd post to you. There was not a single nasty thing in it. You could have asked for clarification, but you didn't. What you did was make a whole lot of derogatory presumptions/remarks about me. Well, I'm not as nice as I used to be (sorry pooh), but I didn't do anything to warrant the ugly things you said. Perhaps my style is one that rubs you the wrong way - wouldn't be the first time that happened, but I gave you some actual positive advice. You saw it a different way. Fair enough. I could have gotten into a pissing contest with you, but I chose not to. Instead, I "bless your heart" ed you. Perhaps not the best decision on my part. You had, however, just sucker punched me, so I'm not gonna get all torn up about it.

And you are right. "Good luck" is my way of saying you'll need some luck. Not smart alecky, just the most positive thing I can say at that point.

best,
sunshine

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:07:29 AM   
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Kojoe - you did misinterpret my 2nd post to you. There was not a single nasty thing in it. You could have asked for clarification, but you didn't. What you did was make a whole lot of derogatory presumptions/remarks about me. Well, I'm not as nice as I used to be (sorry pooh), but I didn't do anything to warrant the ugly things you said. Perhaps my style is one that rubs you the wrong way - wouldn't be the first time that happened, but I gave you some actual positive advice. You saw it a different way. Fair enough. I could have gotten into a pissing contest with you, but I chose not to. Instead, I "bless your heart" ed you. Perhaps not the best decision on my part. You had, however, just sucker punched me, so I'm not gonna get all torn up about it.

And you are right. "Good luck" is my way of saying you'll need some luck. Not smart alecky, just the most positive thing I can say at that point.

best,
sunshine

There, that's better.

Group hug everyone? ;)

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:09:34 AM   
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At this point, I have more chance with that HAWT man than you do. And I'm all kinds of wrong for him.

Whacha got to offer besides a booty call - he (and many folks) can get that anywhere.


Honestly sunny?
You don't see anything even slightly confrontational in that - considering that the guy doesn't know you like regular posters one here - considering he had already apologised to Lance in public and considering you didn't have to inject anything other than just follow the thread?

If you do not, then there really isn't anything else to say.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:12:19 AM   
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There, that's better.

Group hug everyone? ;)


Awwww feck.
Just punish me now.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:15:04 AM   
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All I have to say that is their choice.. If they don't want to talk to me, it's not like I lost anything.. I Prob could have over reacted a bit, but what she said was pretty mean. I know I said some pretty mean stuff back but thats myself guard. I am their to protect myself, I don't come on site to get harassed by anyone.. I come to enjoy some chats and enjoy people time and of course meet people.. I'm not here to hurt anyones feeling, but all I ask is just be nice to me, I'm a real nice guy myself. I sure don't know sunny at all since I'm so new here. but I sure dont mind getting to know sunny either, I know mean things were said and I dont hold a grudge on anyone I'm a very forgiving person. I let stuff slide by me like hmm whatever, thats how laid back I am. I try to enjoy life and keep things simple. So I do apologize to everyone who I offend and all i ask is be nice please...

Thanks
Koejo1


If you think Sunshinemiss was mean, you are in for a bumpy ride here, dude.

It is a message board, you write something, people are allowed to say what they want back to you. Many people here know each other, so there is a banter that goes on between them.

When you come to post be aware it is like any other situation, like a cocktail party, just behave as you would there.

Just because it is a kink site does not make it any different than any other social gathering.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:16:56 AM   
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There, that's better.

Group hug everyone? ;)


Awwww feck.
Just punish me now.

heh - to be fair, you weren't to know :)

Like I said: least said, soonest mended ;)

Sunshine's been gracious, so can we all just calm down and get back to being smashing to each other again please? Cool.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:18:07 AM   
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No dark, I don't see that as nasty or deserving the slamming he did of me. Sure it was confrontational - but confrontational isn't necessarily nasty or mean spirited. I don't think that a mirror in front of someone is the same as the things he said about me.

I'm happy to let bygones be bygones and figure that there was a misunderstanding.

Sorry RF if this is not gracious. Ah well.

best,
sunshine

< Message edited by sunshinemiss -- 1/7/2011 7:22:00 AM >


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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:21:24 AM   
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get back to being smashing to each other again please?


*shudders*  that made me picture Tony Blackburn.

You Sadist, you.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:27:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RCdc

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get back to being smashing to each other again please?


*shudders*  that made me picture Tony Blackburn.

You Sadist, you.

When I said I was Evil with a capital E, I wasn't kidding :)

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:28:43 AM   
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No dark, I don't see that as nasty or deserving the slamming he did of me. Sure it was confrontational - but confrontational isn't necessarily nasty or mean spirited.


And yet he is being told to not expect a bumpy ride, yet in the same breath, told not to dish it?

You are a grown, mature woman, he's a young, gay man.  I know this is gonna sound a bit condecending and ever so stereotypical, so sorry in advance, but his reaction was expectable.  MrRF caught on that, why couldn't everyone else?

Answer - because people love and know ya and have the need to jump to your defense, even when they know you can handle yourself.  Case closed.

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:29:46 AM   
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When I said I was Evil with a capital E, I wasn't kidding :)


Mega le sigh...

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:30:57 AM   
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No dark, I don't see that as nasty or deserving the slamming he did of me. Sure it was confrontational - but confrontational isn't necessarily nasty or mean spirited. I don't think that a mirror in front of someone is the same as the things he said about me.

I'm happy to let bygones be bygones and figure that there was a misunderstanding.

Sorry RF if this is not gracious. Ah well.

I don't think that's ungracious.

The point I was making is that we were all young and a bit spiky, and occasionally a tad tactless, once.

Apart from me, of course. I was born in my mid-40s ;)

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:33:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RCdc

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
When I said I was Evil with a capital E, I wasn't kidding :)


Mega le sigh...

<Smashie & Nicey Mode>

Let's rock!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRCLeFSJo

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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:36:56 AM   
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No dark, I don't see that as nasty or deserving the slamming he did of me. Sure it was confrontational - but confrontational isn't necessarily nasty or mean spirited.


And yet he is being told to not expect a bumpy ride, yet in the same breath, told not to dish it?

You are a grown, mature woman, he's a young, gay man.  I know this is gonna sound a bit condecending and ever so stereotypical, so sorry in advance, but his reaction was expectable.  MrRF caught on that, why couldn't everyone else?

Answer - because people love and know ya and have the need to jump to your defense, even when they know you can handle yourself.  Case closed.


So, you are blaming me because other people decided to come to my defense? Come on. I'm talking only about an interaction between him and me on page one. That's it. The rest, I'm not even involving myself in.

I'm not going to apologize for being loved and known. I'm not going to apologize for other people's choices.

You asked me about a statement I made. I responded. Let's be clear about what you and I are talking about.

I'm thinking he also doesn't need you to defend him. He seems to be able to express himself.

best,
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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:41:44 AM   
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The point I was making is that we were all young and a bit spiky, and occasionally a tad tactless, once.


You know, it's funny RF, I was actually thinking about that from all this. I used to be "a bit spiky" myself and more than occasionally and more than a "tad" tactless. Some would say I have come full circle to my early 20's in some of my manner. Or maybe I'm just too tired to be diplomatic anymore. I don't know.

But I'm good with bygones and such.

best,
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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:55:15 AM   
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So, you are blaming me because other people decided to come to my defense? Come on. I'm talking only about an interaction between him and me on page one. That's it. The rest, I'm not even involving myself in.


No.  What I am saying is that you did can be viewed the same as him, just in a more mature way.
And you are correct, bringing your friends into this IS pointless.  But that said, your interaction was just as pointless and to be honest, it didn't have to go further than between Lance and the OP, without your 2 cents.  In fact the whole ridiculous drama could have been avoided if private correspondance had been kept private in the first place.

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I'm not going to apologize for being loved and known. I'm not going to apologize for other people's choices.

Cool.
So why bother confronting other peoples choices?  Cuts both ways.

quote:

You asked me about a statement I made. I responded. Let's be clear about what you and I are talking about.


See above.

quote:

I'm thinking he also doesn't need you to defend him. He seems to be able to express himself.

I'm not defending him.  I am asking you why you felt you had to be confrontational with the OP, and not expect him to retort in kind.


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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:56:52 AM   
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dark, I don't care about this argument, I just wish you would stop hurting all of us and put back your hot pics.


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RE: Hello Everyone... gay boy here. - 1/7/2011 7:57:22 AM   
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