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Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/14/2011 10:15:26 PM

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Did anyone catch the episode of Dateline tonight? The crew rode along with a homicide crew as they solved a brutal murder.... the psycho suffocated, strangled, beat to death then dismembered his first victim....then tried to kill a second woman with the first body still in the house....

he had a profile on Alt.Com under the name MasterMikeLane

It was enough to make me want to hide my profile! scary world out there.

RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/14/2011 10:26:41 PM

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That is scary!

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/15/2011 7:19:12 PM

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kinda reminds me of a few of the sweet things I have met on here.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/15/2011 7:21:33 PM

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maybe that will be shown here half a year later or so...but considering I had some moments where I changed my mind not to meet someone as a pro sub I agree....scary world out there

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/16/2011 2:33:45 PM

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Here is a good article on the case:

http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2010/jan/07/angel-death/

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/16/2011 2:37:03 PM

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yiiiiiiikes how scary!

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/16/2011 3:32:12 PM

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I recall watching one of those true life crime shows where the murderer had an active and kinky sex life and was caught when their partner began to suspect. One of the people being interviewed commented that it was disburbing how many people are caught because a lover/former lover/potential lover recognized some fantasty, charaterisic knot in the bindings or other little detail.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 1:48:28 PM

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Here is a good article on the case:

http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2010/jan/07/angel-death/

gosh, thanks for sharing angelikaJ...

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 3:17:28 PM

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Wow. Just wow. This is scary as hell.

Thanks for posting the article, angelikaJ.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 3:32:49 PM

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Here is a good article on the case:

http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2010/jan/07/angel-death/

"Demeanor: Assertive" ... well yes, that's one way of putting it I suppose.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 6:38:15 PM

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It would be such a scary world out there if murderers ever figured out how to use a computer or the interwebz...Thank God this is the exception...I am certain they will never have this kind of a problem out on craigslist or facebook.

You are all losers.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 6:46:58 PM

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It would be such a scary world out there if murderers ever figured out how to use a computer or the interwebz...Thank God this is the exception...I am certain they will never have this kind of a problem out on craigslist or facebook.

You are all losers.

I'm sensing you have ... issues, dude :) (as usual)

But yeah, I mean, really? He's a nutter. He kills people. He happens to have a few hobbies that cross over into "our" domain.

So what? Really. So fucking what. Are we supposed to never meet anyone again because they might be bad. FFS. Am I supposed never to visit my GP again because Harold Shipman was a space-case?

Are car drivers going to be shitting themselves because he drove into one of his victims using a car, and thus they might all be labelled evil?

Well, evil-er. Driving a car is already seen as being in league with the devil*.

*although Satan never pays for petrol, even on a shared road trip. It's the one thing that really annoys me about him. You're at the station, you go for a fill-up, and it's always "my wallet's in my other red suit man, sorry". Unacceptable.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 6:59:05 PM

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Hey RapierFugue
Actually, what scared me about his Alt profile is that it looked just like anybody else's. It didn't seem to scream "I'm going to kill and dismember you" which some profiles on here do (I swear, they do...)
What made him so "successful" (forgive the term) as a murderer and a con artist was that he was so charismatic which is how he lured so many victims.

That's really what frightened me. I'm sure there are proportionately just as many crazies on Craigslist, Match.com and all of the other dating sites. Just one more reason why I despise internet dating in general. I do it...but I hate it. I've had two complete whack jobs so far via vanilla internet dating--one that scared me enough that I had to make a safe call and a quick exit.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 7:18:41 PM

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Hey RapierFugue
Actually, what scared me about his Alt profile is that it looked just like anybody else's. It didn't seem to scream "I'm going to kill and dismember you" which some profiles on here do (I swear, they do...)
What made him so "successful" (forgive the term) as a murderer and a con artist was that he was so charismatic which is how he lured so many victims.

That's really what frightened me. I'm sure there are proportionately just as many crazies on Craigslist, Match.com and all of the other dating sites. Just one more reason why I despise internet dating in general. I do it...but I hate it. I've had two complete whack jobs so far via vanilla internet dating--one that scared me enough that I had to make a safe call and a quick exit.

"Just one more reason why I despise internet dating in general" ... so you can murder people over the internet now? Wow. I must have missed that one when it snuck in via "Microsoft Updates".

Or, back in the real world, every interaction of substance is made when actually meeting someone. They have to be in the room to harm you (or love you, to give a balanced viewpoint). So just like every other, non-internet, date you've ever had then. There comes a point when you have to trust someone, based on your judgement. There is a tiny, infinitesimally small, chance that yes, the person you're meeting will be a raving loony. But the overwhelming probability is they'll be at least a semi-normal human being. Therefore, based on the relative chances, should you a) shit yourself and hide under the bed for the next 5 decades, at minimum, or b) continue to make friends, chat to people, contribute to forums such as this, and generally live your life, and trust to your judgement and a tiny degree of luck that you won't meet Mr or Mrs Homicidal?

And a reasonably clever con man has a profile that doesn't scream "bodies in the basement!"? Is this news? Really? Seriously? FFS people, stop reacting to media scare tactics and place threats in their correct statistical and proportional context. It's actually far more likely you'll go out with someone, have a great time, they'll dump you, and you'll kill yourself through depression, than it is you'll be the victim of some internet loon. Or, much more likely, that you'll meet someone, have a time somewhere between “so-so” and “great”, both enjoy the experience, and both make each other happy, for a period of time between one night and the rest of your lives.

If you live in fear you have no true freedom; you might have a Constitution, or a set of Laws, that are supposed to protect you, but they won't do you any good, coz you're already too scared to interact with life.

Go, live, do, experience, enjoy, and let the cards fall where they may. Trust your judgement, listen to your voice of experiences, but FFS don’t stop living just because someone else has sadly ceased to be alive.

PS: If I get slaughtered by a crazy tomorrow you have my permission to turn up at my funeral and scream "SEE!! TOLD YOU SO, FUCKER!!" at my graveside. You won't be the weirdest guest, that's for sure ;)

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 7:48:58 PM

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Relax....I'm not hiding under the bed. I continue to live my life, and in my line of work, I deal with the worst case scenarios of things that most people don't know anything about...and don't want to know or they'd never leave their houses. I'm actually quite numb at this point to the atrocities people do. I've lived through learning of two friends murdered in cold blood--and my co-worker lost a friend to homicide last month. We still leave our houses and go about our lives.

The "good" psychopaths will blend in with the rest of us--I have previously reported one profile to the Admins here because he was advertising murder for hire in exchange for living space on his ranch. Real of not....his profile was shut down. If I had a dollar for every red flag profile/post on CollarMe, I'd have enough to retire now and live on a island somewhere.

Of course I'm not saying that everyone on the internet is a nutjob--my point is that the internet makes it a lot easier to walk into a nutjob vs. the days when you had to approach someone face to face to get a date. I went on a lot of dates before the good ol' internet days....and I never once went out on a date with a woman and thought "oh my god, she's crazy as shit! I'm outta here!" Before I asked a woman out, I at least got to know her enough to decide "hey, I want to go out for coffee with her and get to know her better..." And I knew what I was getting.

Internet dating? I get photos from 10 years ago.....I get mislead and lied to about their age, their appearance, you name it..... and I can't always get the true vibe of a person's "self" via the internet. Some folks can type a good game....and then I meet them and they can't carry on a civilized conversation, and I think to myself: "my god, is this actually the person I've been emailing with all this time?"

The internet is not the root of all evil, but I absolutely detest internet dating--it is as unpleasant as I thought it would be. I do it because I need to put myself out there--I never intended to become single at 40, and it's far worse than I could have imagined.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 8:04:21 PM

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Of course I'm not saying that everyone on the internet is a nutjob--my point is that the internet makes it a lot easier to walk into a nutjob vs. the days when you had to approach someone face to face to get a date. I went on a lot of dates before the good ol' internet days....and I never once went out on a date with a woman and thought "oh my god, she's crazy as shit! I'm outta here!" Before I asked a woman out, I at least got to know her enough to decide "hey, I want to go out for coffee with her and get to know her better..." And I knew what I was getting.

That says to me that you aren't bothering to get to know or someone properly online before meeting them.

Or that your judgement's terrible. You choose :)

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The internet is not the root of all evil, but I absolutely detest internet dating--it is as unpleasant as I thought it would be. I do it because I need to put myself out there--I never intended to become single at 40, and it's far worse than I could have imagined.

Christ, and I thought I was bitter :)

You've certainly cheered me up no end, so thanks for that ;)

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 8:06:03 PM

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The horrifc outcome of this tragedy is nothing to take with a grain of salt. Granted, many people in this world are not as this man proved himself to be. However it is better to err on the side of caution as opposed to throwing all caution to the winds. One of the things this situation proves is that some folks are not trustworthy, nor capable of balancing their own internal life dynamics, thus take their fantasy world as a reality to act out on others. One of the things that is so sad is that this creep used spirituality to get his victims. How pathetic! There are no words to offer that will reverse this horror that was acted out. Nonetheless, caution is valauble when related to interacting with other people in this world. Keeping in mind, the mindset of people as this creep are never able to predict. However caution does offer a bit of distance from those who are less than worthy of trust. Lessons learned are only valuble when applied, regardless how they are learned, aye!

Take Care!

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 8:08:50 PM

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One of the things this situation proves is that some folks are not trustworthy

And in other news, water is wet and fire is hot.

Film at eleven.

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 8:16:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
One of the things this situation proves is that some folks are not trustworthy

And in other news, water is wet and fire is hot.

Film at eleven.

What did your sarcastic comment have to do with the seriousness of this topic?

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RE: Dateline on Vegas murderer with Alt profile - 1/17/2011 8:18:04 PM

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Of course I'm not saying that everyone on the internet is a nutjob--my point is that the internet makes it a lot easier to walk into a nutjob vs. the days when you had to approach someone face to face to get a date. I went on a lot of dates before the good ol' internet days....and I never once went out on a date with a woman and thought "oh my god, she's crazy as shit! I'm outta here!" Before I asked a woman out, I at least got to know her enough to decide "hey, I want to go out for coffee with her and get to know her better..." And I knew what I was getting.

That says to me that you aren't bothering to get to know or someone properly online before meeting them.

Or that your judgement's terrible. You choose :)

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ORIGINAL: hausboy
The internet is not the root of all evil, but I absolutely detest internet dating--it is as unpleasant as I thought it would be. I do it because I need to put myself out there--I never intended to become single at 40, and it's far worse than I could have imagined.

Christ, and I thought I was bitter :)

You've certainly cheered me up no end, so thanks for that ;)

Okay...so you realize that by putting a little smiley after the statement doesn't necessarily make it nice ... or does it?

I have a question for you--and I'm being serious here--do you do any internet dating? Because in my experience, and granted, it's only been three years for me, most of the time, women don't want an endless string of email. We email for about 1-2 weeks tops, and after that, a coffee date is either next up (or a phone chat) or we cut if off. Many women don't feel comfortable giving out a phone number (understandable), so we end up having a cup of coffee--which gives us both an easy out. 1 hour of our lives to see if we want to spend more than an hour together. Sometimes getting ANY information about a person can be like pulling teeth.

I'm not talking about heavy duty stuff either--I'll settle for anything that can tell me something about a woman's personality--pets? favorite movies? last book she read? does she volunteer? what drives her passion...art? music? hiking?

You know how women complain about guys who write them one line sentences? Women can be just as guilty of that "offense." If after three emails they won't write more than 2 sentences, I move on.

And believe it or not, I'm really not bitter. I continue to date--typically once or twice a month--because I still am optimistic that there is someone special out there for me. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't bother with it at all.

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