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DarkSteven -> A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:28:14 PM)

I've been on cm for a while.  In that time, I've met a lot of friends, and had a few short relationships.  I've had a lot of fun.

It bothers me that there are some who think of this site as ONLY a dating site.  Once they do, they lose the fun they could have.  Eventually, they get pissed off at all the people that are NOT what they want - TGs, pro Dommes, lesbians, etc.  And it's a vicious cycle - once they get grim and angry, they become someone nobody would want to know.  Which leads to more grimness and anger.

Okay.  Rant over.  Back to your other threads.




MaxsGirl -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:32:27 PM)

I feel blessed to be on here now, when I'm no longer looking for anything but friendship.  There are many people here who I would be happy to call friends.




poise -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:41:56 PM)

I feel the same way about people who can't appreciate the joy of eating ice cream.
I may pity them for a moment or two, then I selfishly and joyously realize that means more for me!!
I would like to thank you for the fun you share with us all Steven. [8D]




DarkSteven -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:48:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

I feel the same way about people who can't appreciate the joy of eating ice cream.
I may pity them for a moment or two, then I selfishly and joyously realize that means more for me!!



/The diabetic throws a scoop of ice cream at poise/




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:49:10 PM)

~FR~
 
Even it were "just" a dating site, I really don't understand what's so hard about finding a partner.  In the time I've been on CM, I've found at least three, including my girl, and I've made several friends on top of that.  Am I a drop-dead goreous model?  No.   

Do I live in a major city like Los Angeles or NYC with hundreds of potential partners?  No.   

Am I a Pro with paying clients?  Hell no.  

I'm a middle-aged, married mom.  I'm not single, unencumbered by major responsibilities, or in the oh-so-desirable 18-35 age bracket.  So how is it that I've managed to find at least three people to play with on this site alone?  I think the answer comes down to what I call the Three P's: Presentation, Politeness, and Patience.  Apparently, the Grims don't understand let alone have mastery of the basics. 




intenze -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:56:49 PM)

but you are pretty Sylvere[:)]




frazzle -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 5:57:53 PM)

In general, it is a dating site. Check the profiles to the number of people that use the forums. the forums are secondary.

I know the general consensus is, see what they've written on the boards, but most, certainly in the UK, dont participate in the forums. Might be coz we are so out numbered and the humour doesnt cross borders.

As to those that rant, whine etc.............. the comments from the regulars tell me more! if theyd just not answer, those threads would die.





DykeNoir -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 7:10:43 PM)

Seconding Dark Stevens rant.




gungadin09 -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 7:24:54 PM)

i think there should be a separate category for "grim ones". i've been wasting my time on this site.

pam




poise -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 7:30:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

I feel the same way about people who can't appreciate the joy of eating ice cream.
I may pity them for a moment or two, then I selfishly and joyously realize that means more for me!!



/The diabetic throws a scoop of ice cream at poise/


*gratefully catches it on the tip of my tongue*
Thank you!




LadiTrukDriver -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 7:31:51 PM)

The biggest issue I have are those who read my profile & think I'm not serious when I say I'm only looking for platonic friends on here. Or that just because I drive boarder to boarder, coast to coast & everywhere in between, and that I am a submissive that driving a truck is secondary to serving Dominants all over the country.
Perfect example. Yesterday I had a Dom want me to drive an EXTRA 250 miles, using the bosses $4 a gallon fuel. The fact that 1) I just drove over 6000 miles in 2 weeks & 2 I was NOT driving from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Binghamton, New York then back down Philadelphia, Pennsylvania pissed him off.
Well ummm here's my thought, I may be a sub, but I'm not your sub (not aimed at anyone here), and I sure as hell am not going to bow down, kiss someone's ass & be walked on like a rug! I'm better than that & have a lot more respect for myself than that.
Now, with that said, I have made some great friends on this site & always look forward to making even more friends. I also enjoy reading the posts that catch my eye in the forum.
Now, *pushes soapbox back over to DS* if anyone wants to cmail me on the other side to meet up for lunch, dinner, coffee, please let me know your location & I'll let you know when I know I'll be in your area.
Lauri




Delilya -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 8:12:04 PM)

I am here to learn. Seriously. I sit back, read and take in what everyone has to say. Mull it over, keep what is of interest to me and scuttle the rest.




nancygirl34652 -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 8:18:47 PM)

It really should not bother You, Dark Steven, that some think of this as just a dating site because that is all it needs to be for some people. Others, like You and myself and many forum posters, like it to be a well-rounded experience....meeting people if that is what You are seeking...reading/posting to forums to meet friends and learn new perspectives, etc.

When i first joined CM, i knew nothing about blogs, message boards, forums, etc. Took me quite awhile before i started reading the message boards...and mostly i just read..lol..too nervous to post often. But even though i don't normally post, i do read...and keep up with people who i feel like i know only because i have been reading their posts for years..lol

i do not look down my nose at those who only use the profile section to find their One or whatever they are looking for...however, these chat rooms are ridiculous!! lol...well not the rooms per se, but most of the people in them. Now i am sure there are people who frequent the chatrooms who will beg to differ with me and that is fine. i just always feel like a fresh piece of meat in there...lol




oceanwynds2 -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 8:20:21 PM)

I should had brought cookies so everyone would be taken care of, while we rant. Yes, I am quite adapt to making sugar-free cookies for those who prefer.

I have always found it humours when someone comes on to complain about the other side. They speak as if no one here knows the bloody truth about pro..this that and etc etc. They need to take a step back and bring food to the threads, instead of whining.

They tend to remind me of a person entering a restaurant to meet new people, and start complaining about the restaurant. Really, who desires or needs that?




nancygirl34652 -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 8:25:01 PM)

don't know if i was whining or not but here's some brownies..[:D]




LillyBoPeep -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/27/2011 9:10:46 PM)

when i first came here, i was with M, and so i wasn't looking. i had a lot of fun here, getting to know people, posting all over topics, and making a few friends.

when i came back, it was mostly to get a break from people whining about my incessant posting on FL (aaand to get away from a person who follows me around and back-snarks nearly all my posts *eye roll*)

i do not expect that i will find what i'm looking for ANYWHERE, much less collarme.
i'm here for the message boards, the company, and friends.
it's a snazzy place in that regard. honestly, the part that makes it less snazzy ... is the personals side.




soul2share -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/28/2011 3:06:13 AM)

I like it here.....I lurked for about 6 months before I started posting....learned more here than I did from the other sites, that's for sure.  The people posting are a lot of fun, and I've met a couple of folks here too.

I don't get much action on the personals side....usually the same few guys e-mail me, and even when I don't respond, continue to do so.  Like Lilly, I probably won't find what I'm seeking either, but on this side of CM, I'm having a ball!




RCdc -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/28/2011 3:31:56 AM)

It may not just be a dating site, but people will use the site the way they are thinking - is that such a bad thing? There is nothing in the blurb that states this is anything more than a BDSM Community. But yet you have some people moaning that posting and asking about a fetish is also a bad thing, just because they can't relate to said fetish - instead of just not bothering to respond at all.

People like to tell other people what to do, whether that's what to post, or to moan about not getting responses to email and insist people should, or telling people that if they ask for tribute they must be pros or whether its moaning about people posting those moans and that people don't realise this is more than a dating site.




LaTigresse -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/28/2011 3:57:33 AM)

I was already in a relationship when I joined this site. I thought it was going to be a 'happily ever after' and so was certainly not looking for anyone in that manner. I was just trying to understand more about power exchange relationships and what drives the submissive/slave mindset.

Along the way I lost her but feel I gain many delightful aquaintances, a great deal more insight than I had previously ever hoped for and many laughs.

Honestly, I still don't expect to 'find' someone on here. I seem to suck at internet courting, for lack of a better word at 5:54 am. But I just caint quit youuuuuuuuu! [:D]

Sorry, after the Oscars I am in movie quote mode. Seriously, I enjoy communicating with people here. Often it is simply just to pass the time when I either don't want to be doing something I am procrastinating on, or as is the case more often at work, I've got nothing else to occupy my time/brain.




stellauk -> RE: A rant about the grim ones. (2/28/2011 4:14:39 AM)

Greetings to the OP, one of the many friendly familiar faces and screen names here which gave me a warm feeling on coming back.

I understand his feelings and sentiments entirely. I don't know whether this is because BDSM is becoming more mainstream or whether it's because of the state of the economy and changes in society but yes I admit that it seems this site could be renamed TrolleyMe, (think of Wal-Mart) the online superstore of sex, kink and perversion.

I think everyone who has been coming here to this site for a considerable length of time goes through periods of frustration, exasperation and maybe even fear for the future of Mankind and the BDSM community as a whole. It's human nature, we all operate primarily out of self-interest, we all require some sort of attention, recognition, and acknowledgement of who we are deep down and we all have hopes or expectations of some sort of change or development in this part of our lives.

I think technology and the Internet plays a part here. Over the years I've seen the BDSM community transform and develop with the development of the Internet, which I think is the main reason BDSM has become more widespread and mainstream. I've been in and out of this community for donkey's years from way back pre-Internet and.. and... I can't even remember how it was back then (now I feel old) but this much I know, you didn't get anywhere unless you were prepared to make the effort, do the legwork, make the contact and have the right attitudes.

This is true both of dating and BDSM. I can't remember going down to a nightclub and finding men approaching women dancing round handbags demanding that they take complete control of their bodies and force them to complete surrender. I think the Internet has somehow given people the opportunities to smudge over the boundaries somewhat.

As with everything it depends on attitude and your expectations. I see everyone who comes here as an individual, so are their reasons for coming here, and so are their reasons even for logging on every day. Those reasons are so diverse they can stretch the limits of your imagination, because they range from someone just seeking a thrill, others who need emotional support, some require validation, others want a relationship, people who want to be locked up, a few people who perhaps need locking up, and I think we've even had someone here who wanted to be transformed into a bird.

It's also important to remember that with the state of the economy and changes in society generally communities are breaking up, changing, people are losing their jobs, going through difficult times, some fall ill, some are marginalized, and there's a lot of people who don't have that network of friends or access or opportunity to meet people. All they have is a computer, keyboard and mouse, they maybe go out to work (if they're lucky) come home, nobody there for them, nobody calls to say hello how are you, it's just them and sites like this. All they are looking for deep down is attention, someone to pay attention to them, listen to them, talk to them, share a piece of their lives and maybe one or two experiences.

It's important not to have too many expectations to begin with. I first started out with this site when I was living in Poland, my first experiences were when I was homeless, at the end of my time there, and I was desperate. I remember even sitting in an Internet cafe at Warsaw Central station, freezing, cold, lonely, hungry, and receiving a message from a domme in Bristol sending me positive thoughts and wishes. It gave me hope and made me feel much better. Similarly when I came to the boards for the first time early in 2007 having recently moved into an apartment I was in a terrible headspace and I could write a long list of names of the regular posters here who reached out to me, befriended me, and without asking for anything in return gave me that emotional support and validation I was looking for at the time.

There are some truly wonderful, amazing examples of humanity lurking about on this website, people who fascinate, people who know, and people who give you a warm fuzzy feeling when they send you a message. And this is what is important to remember. In among all the people who exasperate you and frustrate you there are others who if you encounter them will inspire warm, positive feelings and restore your faith in human nature. They don't even have to contact you, it's enough to know that they're here too.

But as with everything it's all down to one thing - perspective. You project energy out to others through your communication, either positive or negative, and this alone influences the sort of contact you attract back.




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