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BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/16/2011 10:56:16 AM)

I read the original post in the That need to embrace change through Marxism. written by stellauk.

Think of religion as a technology for motivating people to be morally virtuous despite the fact that it is pointless. You are morally virtuous because it pleases God and God appreciates moral virtue.

An economic system is about getting people to do what is not in their best interest by creating an illusion that what is not in their best interest is in fact in their best interest.

On the other hand if you wish to do away with the economic system the temptation to play God is plain to see overwhelming because it begs the question how else do you motivate people? You create a religion where the state plays God. God cannot operate in this world effectively because it is impure, but that is a problem that only God can solve. This does not stop people from trying, however. When the state plays God it will correctly realize that the stumbling block concerns the existence of impurity. The overwhelming impulse is to cleanse society of its perceived impurity which inevitably results in a catastrophe.

We are forbidden to supplant God. A world without suffering is unfortunately not attainable. On the other hand we can be pragmatic and do what little we can to minimize it, not because there is any hope that it will actually do any good, but because it pleases God.



BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/24/2011 10:10:04 AM)

What follows is the distillate, i.e. result from a train of thought, that began with a waking thought this Easter morning. It is an answer to a question that I have long sought, though I have known the answer for some time.

The guilty cannot accept love.

Guilt is an anatomical response; it is not something that one controls. A false, as in unsophisticated, appreciation of the ugliness of sin will accentuate, instead of improve, the situation, i.e. a mere appreciation that sin is ugly is not a solution. A mere appreciation that sin is ugly is only helpful in the avoidance of sin.

How a woman will respond to what she knows in her heart to be a genuine proposal of love is telling. If she handles the proposal gracefully, it is because she knows that she is worthy of such a proposal. If she repels your proposal in a violent manner, i.e. non-gracefully, it means she is guilty, i.e. not worthy. Realizing her guilt she will realize that she deserves to be punished, but since she hides from her guilt she will instead punish you. She will become paranoid realizing that she deserves to be punished and will attempt to exploit the harm she has done to you in order to manipulate you into harming her in order to fulfill a self-fulfilling masochistic fantasy that will be perceived by you as an act of sadism that makes no sense. She will likely pretend to be your victim when in fact she is victimizing you. The demons are roused with fury.

In a world that regards women as victims and men as predators, she is an especially dangerous sort of predator because they will buy her story and not yours. I avoided falling into the trap, but this does not keep you from being wrongly dishonored. It only keeps you from being wrongly dishonored in a material sense, but honor is not a material thing.



heartcream -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 12:15:32 AM)

WTF is this thread about? It is whacky mang.

God and sex are incompatible? That is sheer crazy talk.

We come from sex even though we have been seriously messed up. God and sex are not separate things.



defiantbadgirl -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 3:08:04 PM)

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You mean you aren't going to brag on his thread about all the reasons you think you're better than him? I was hoping to see some real entertainment. A showdown of the Narcissists.


Shhh, you have bored the sheep and he now is resting. If you listen carefully, you may even hear him snoring gently.

Rather than name calling, it would be more interesting if you could add something meaningful to the discussion. For example, you could say that you disagree that men are discriminated against and offer an explanation for why you feel this way.


I do think some women deliberately treat men badly. I also think some men deliberately treat women badly. In some relationships, both partners are mean to each other. In other relationships, neither partner deliberately treats the other wrong. If one partner in a relationship is a narcissist, the narcissist is the one in the wrong and their partner must take responsibility for ending the relationship to avoid future abuse. This is not gender specific, as there are female narcissists as well as male narcissists. Now I will explain why narcissists (both male and female) are to blame. Narcissists think they are better than other humans. They set unrealistic expectations for their significant others. Narcissists expect their partners to put them before themselves, their parents, their children, their extended families, their jobs, their pets, basically everything and everyone. A person could have a family member dying in the hospital and the narcissistic partner would expect his/her needs catered to first. All the narcissist understands and cares about is his/her own selfishness. A narcissist expects perfection, which is impossible since no human is perfect no matter how hard they try. Narcissists look for imperfections, sometimes even invent them, just so they can belittle their significant others to inflate their already overblown egos. That's why in a relationship involving a narcissist, the narcissist is always at fault. You mentioned discrimination. I don't discriminate against men who aren't narcissists. I discriminate against male and female narcissists.



BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 5:04:33 PM)

Your interest in narcissism seems obsessive to me. I suppose the woman I was referring to in my last post perhaps was a narcissist. I prefer to think of her as a psychopath. My usage, however, is informal. I gather from what you wrote that you feel that the narcissists of the world should be put to death.



defiantbadgirl -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 5:54:09 PM)

Perhaps you would like to know why I'm certain you have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Throughout this thread, you have bragged about yourself over and over again. Thinking God sees you as better than everyone else = NPD. Thinking you're entitled to behave in certain ways when others are not = NPD. Thinking you're perfect = NPD. I have read many stories written by victims of narcissists. Victims included spouses, family members, co-workers, children of narcissists, the list goes on and on. Some of the narcissists that inflicted this abuse were female, some were male. The abuse these people suffered at the hands of narcissists was horrific. ALL narcissists, both male and female are non-consentually abusive and never feel any remorse for the horrible things they do because narcissists have no conscience. I feel sorry for all of your past, present, and future victims.



BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 6:20:18 PM)

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God and sex are incompatible?


I am familiar with Wicca and the role sex has in Wiccan practices. I am a witness and as such I can speak as a witness. Concerning the Almighty God, aka Christian God, this does appear to be the case with the exception of courtly love. I am witness to the fact that the Almighty God is able to appreciate the merit of courtly love. It is a well recognized condition that our world exists in an impure state. It is not my impression that the Wiccan Gods/Goddesses are evil since they have been kind to me, but it is conceivable. It is my understanding that the Muslims divide the spirit world into of-God, devils, and neither. Perhaps they fall into the neither category.

The Spirit of the Almighty God discourages sexual thoughts in that sex will clearly not be on the brain if you should ever stand in His presence. You can discern sexual distinctions, however. The Almighty God is masculine whereas the Virgin Mother is feminine. Does this mean He discourages it per se? The Almighty God has done more to confuse me on this point than to enlighten me on this point. The evidence suggests that the act of sex from a magickal perspective is and would be pointless if the goal was to create resonance between you and the Almighty God.



BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 7:09:29 PM)

This is the way I see it and the best way I can make sense of it. You have Jesus Christ giving a lecture on the beatitudes and then turns around to say to the good thief. At first blush it doesn't seem to make much sense. This is how I make sense of it.

We were cast out of Eden and it is forbidden for us to return; consequently, it is the Will of God that we live in this world imperfect as it is, but to live in this world and embrace it is sinful. It may in fact be a perfect catch-22 where there is no solution except that solution that was provided to us by God. In a sense it is pointless to avoid sin because sin is inevitable. So why are we called to avoid sin if sin is inevitable?

In a marriage you can truly love your spouse, but your spouse can make it impossible for you to love them. So as I see it we are called to not make it impossible for God to save us. We must not seek a divorce and while married it is best to encourage the love you have for the other. Hence, faithfulness to a spouse can serve as an outward sign of fidelity to God.

The detractors appear to be saying don't try to preserve your marriage if your spouse wants out for fear that you may be labeled a narcissist. Spoken sarcastically, aren't you being selfish if you don't want your wife to shag everything that walks or crawls upon the Earth?



Termyn8or -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 8:03:14 PM)

"A person could have a family member dying in the hospital and the narcissistic partner would expect his/her needs catered to first."

Reminds me of a certain politician. Was it Newt ? Doesn't matter, if politicians had any morals this country would be in alot better shape. Maybe this is another yet undiscovered addiction.

T^T



BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/25/2011 8:51:02 PM)

I recall a story involving a Church exorcist who left the Church and married a woman in a different faith. Years later he begged the Church for forgiveness and left his wife. She was distraught. I recall that he was forgiven and reinstated. The Church is a demanding lover. This may also be true for people in other responsible positions. I do not know much about the Newt Gingrich's alleged whatever since such things do not interest me.

I used to be actively involved in politics. The woman I spoke of obliquely is a politician. She confessed to me in a telephone call that the problem concerned her political ambitions. She did not find me personally objectionable. That she confessed this to me took me by surprise.



BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (4/30/2011 8:35:14 AM)

I want to comprehend what the truth is so I may communicate the truth to others with fidelity. If fidelity is not achieved the task is pointless. I want to understand what sex is. It is like phony God. Like God according to an alternative paradigm. How could something be like God, but not be God?

Anyway, today I solved a puzzle. Actually I solved it a few days ago, but the solution revisited me with even greater clarity today. It was pride. I did not see it at the time. May I not be so prideful. My God spare me. It is truly better to be humble. I do not wish to partake of this forbidden fruit. Here, I'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about ambition and what happens to people when they achieve their goals and regard themselves special in a way that is unGodly.



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