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AcademyForSlaves -> Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 2:32:19 PM)
Hi Are there as many male subs as everyone says? It is said that there are many more male slaves compared to the number of Mistresses but does that theory take into consideration how many of those male subs are "bedroom only slaves" or switches? Just how many male subs out there do you think are real submissives who love obeying and submitting to a Mistress? (Here's hoping they do exist and we can find them.)

LadyPact -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 2:42:33 PM)
I don't seem to have any trouble finding them but then again, I'm not charging people anything. I also don't discount switches if they are only in a submissive role for Me. I don't deal with bedroom only folks at all, so I'm not much help there. The 'how many' questions never work because there is absolutely no way to know.

DarkSteven -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 2:49:39 PM)
I've often wondered the same thing. If you discount the Dommes that are in it for the pay only, and the males that are do-me types, what would be the resultant ratio of lifestyle Dommes and lifestyle male subs?

mistressko -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 3:12:04 PM)
With no actual 'in the flesh' proof, aside from ones I have already met or soon will be (in a safe place of course), I would say that I believe there are as many 'real' and sincere subs/slaves as there are as many 'real' and sincere Dommes. I've found absolutely no lack of messages. 70% might not be anything much that could work out in real life, 15% might seem suitable but well, something pops up and they aren't, and 15% might be true, coffee meeting worthy. I try to sort and gently let go the ones who are not that 15% as soon as possible so they can continue on with their search/fantasy/wanking off or whatever. I don't think that's such a bad ratio. I don't do this professionally. I think of it as a part of me, inside me and the 'looking for' and responding to forums is really another hobby for me like reading or going to movies, etc. It just happens to be a hobby I wouldn't do at a public cybercafe or something. LOL -K PS If you call me Polyanna I reserve the right to lash you with my leather belt. If that happens to be your kink, I'll do it much harder. ;-)

tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 3:42:15 PM)
AcademyForSlaves? Really? Once they're trained, what happens? Do you send them forth into the world to find their own M/Ds? Do you find them the One? I really want to know, this has me wondering exactly how this Academy thingie works.

Politesub53 -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 3:53:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact but then again, I'm not charging people anything. Kerchinnnggg We have a winner.

BonesFromAsh -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 4:19:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves Are there as many male subs as everyone says? Where? Online or IRL? Online there seems to be a plethora of 'naughty little boys' who are just begging to be 'trained' by the perfect mistress. Of course, the same could be said for all of the 'MasterDomlyDomKingOfTheUniverseAndSuperTrainerOfAllSluttySubbieGirls'...keep in mind, the same could be said of the female versions of the prior examples. In other words, lots of fantasy flowing around the EtherWorld. Offline, there are all kinds of men who are 'submissive' without even realizing they need the label to play reindeer games with the 'right' crowd. quote: It is said that there are many more male slaves compared to the number of Mistresses but does that theory take into consideration how many of those male subs are "bedroom only slaves" or switches? Interesting....switches aren't twue enough for you? Even if they only approach with a submissive role/stance/mind? More labels. quote: Just how many male subs out there do you think are real submissives who love obeying and submitting to a Mistress? (Here's hoping they do exist and we can find them.) What constitutes "real" in your book...beyond the "obeying and submitting" company line? I ask because I'm confused by your "weal and twue" attitude here and your talk of "satisfaction" found with online slaves in this post. Enquiring minds want to know.

leadership527 -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 4:21:29 PM)
~fast reply~ I guess I"m unclear on how the OP being a pro-domme plays into this question. My general understanding is that many pro dommes also have a (sorry) "real slave" and the relationships are vastly different. Academic might've been posting from the personal side of her life not the professional. If it was professional though, then I'd have to agree. I cannot imagine ANYTHING like what I'd think of when I think "M/s" as being in a "for pay" arrangement. You don't pay someone to own you. When you pay someone, you own them.

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 5:31:38 PM)
~FR~ Is it just me or is anyone else having deja vu? Q: Are there any (how many) dominant women submissive men into [insert your favorite kink here]? A: While there is no way to answer the question of how many dominant women submissive men enjoy a particular activity, we can assure you that if you like it, chances are there’s a dominant woman submissive man somewhere in the world who likes it too. However, it’s beyond our ability to guarantee you’ll find one here.

daintydimples -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 6:03:35 PM)
It has been my experience that there is a huge difference between male and female subs. Yes, male subs do exist. It will take time and patience to get them past the fantasy only do me phase. Which is perhaps difficult to achieve if you are domming for bucks (sorry). Male subs can easily be every bit as sub as a female, and the best ones I know have learned from fem subs how to put their own needs on the back burner and concentrate on SERVING. A magnificent male sub/slave is a pleasure to behold, as is a female sub/slave. The intensity of their desire to serve tends to subsume all other aspects of their dynamic.

submgreenbay -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 6:08:04 PM)
I don't think anyone will ever be able to accurately predict the ratio. Perhaps the problem is most Mistresses are not actively "finding them." They are simply waiting to be contacted by them. If that makes any sense.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 6:20:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: submgreenbay Perhaps the problem is most Mistresses are not actively "finding them." They are simply waiting to be contacted by them. Spoken like someone who lives on the internet. Most of the Mistresses I know go to events and network, just like everybody else. That's what I spent last night doing, and let me tell you there were plenty of dominant women and submissive men in that room, and I don't think a single one of the dominant women was 'waiting' to be spoken to...

peppermint -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 6:29:27 PM)
We help host munches in two different cities. If we had any female Dommes or unattached female submissives we could probably triple the number of people who attend our munches. So, according to my experience, there is a lack of females period compared to males.

servantforuse -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 6:55:35 PM)
If you think there is a lack of male slaves, just lower the prices on your scam website.

peppermint -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 8:38:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse If you think there is a lack of male slaves, just lower the prices on your scam website. Excuse me....and what are you referring to? I don't have a web site.

TheRaptorJesus -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 9:51:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious quote: ORIGINAL: submgreenbay Perhaps the problem is most Mistresses are not actively "finding them." They are simply waiting to be contacted by them. Spoken like someone who lives on the internet. Most of the Mistresses I know go to events and network, just like everybody else. That's what I spent last night doing, and let me tell you there were plenty of dominant women and submissive men in that room, and I don't think a single one of the dominant women was 'waiting' to be spoken to... Some of us are a bit too famous to be seen in public with you perverted plebeians though, VC. What might you suggest then, huh!?

LPslittleclip -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 10:12:23 PM)
as a male slave i have met many other slaves both male and female ones so the do exist and can be found if one just goes out and looks for them munches and meet and greets

SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 10:46:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daintydimples It has been my experience that there is a huge difference between male and female subs. Yes, male subs do exist. It will take time and patience to get them past the fantasy only do me phase. Which is perhaps difficult to achieve if you are domming for bucks I submit that the process of getting males past the fantasy, to accepting and allowing a D/s relationship, to emerge organically, is difficult, even when one is not domming for money. For what it's worth, I do think there is a need for teaching. There is nothing wrong, with teaching the basics of gentleman manners, obedience, listening skills, learning, interacting with a (dominant) lady, without coming across as a corosive wanker. I further, do not consider charging for said lessons to be corrupt. No one can teach him about me personally. If after attending AcademyForSlaves, he comes to me with communication skills, doesn't perceive healthy male ego as being contrary to obedience. If his percetion of service equals his lady's understanding of service, and is his primary focus, he'd have been well served/trained. The rest, I would take on gladly. quote: Male subs can easily be every bit as sub as a female, and the best ones I know have learned from fem subs how to put their own needs on the back burner and concentrate on SERVING. This makes perfect sense to me, since I often identify submission, as expressed in large part, by female submissives. quote: A magnificent male sub/slave is a pleasure to behold, as is a female sub/slave. The intensity of their desire to serve tends to subsume all other aspects of their dynamic Agreed. [;)] M

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/3/2011 11:53:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: peppermint We help host munches in two different cities. If we had any female Dommes or unattached female submissives we could probably triple the number of people who attend our munches. So, according to my experience, there is a lack of females period compared to males. Almost every FAD event I've been to, women outnumber men, sometimes by a high enough margin that a lot of unattached femdoms don't get to play unless they borrow someone else's subby to whack on. I am constantly being asked to share mine 'cause I have two and there usually aren't enough to go around. So, go figure. Set up an event that actually makes women feel comfortable, that is run by women FOR women and their male and female submissives, and they will come. And they will stick around, in greater numbers than the men.

peppermint -> RE: Lack of male slaves (3/4/2011 3:43:13 AM)
quote: Set up an event that actually makes women feel comfortable, that is run by women FOR women and their male and female submissives, and they will come. If I knew of any Dommes within a 100 mile radius of where I summer I'd be glad to turn the dungeon over to them for an event. Acutally, I do know of 3. One plays happily in private with her husband and wishes to keep it private. The second has had health issues the past 2 years and hasn't been able to attend any events. The third appears to be online only as many male submissives have chatted with her but not one has ever met her. Heck, our normal munch draws people from as far away as 250 miles. Even at that a munch with play party in the evening might only have a dozen people there on a very good turnout. That is summertime numbers. In winter when people can not travel much the numbers can be much lower. You must live much closer to cities with larger populations than we do.

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