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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 4:20:01 PM   
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This requires the swapping of bodily fluids as you can imagine.


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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 4:49:13 PM   
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I just wanted to come back to add something by way of special emphasis which might make people stop and think.

This was a couple of years ago when I was working with the homeless in a hostel in East London. One of the homeless residents was a woman in her 30's, bipolar, HIV and AIDS.

She used to hang out around the local petrol station selling her body for a few smokes, a bit of cash, a few beers, whatever she could get.

She didn't have any problems as far as I'm aware, as she often could be seen smoking, sitting among people, drinking cheap cider and stuff. She became homeless by just walking out of a psychiatric hospital one day and not going back.

Nobody intervened during the time she was hanging around the petrol stations. She's homeless. Nobody cares. We managed to get some intervention for her when she became repeatedly assaulted sexually by a convicted paedophile who was also homeless, and just walked away one day from his registered address on the Sex Offender's Register. He sexually assaulted other women, and it brought matters to a head.

He was remanded in custody pending trial. It took several months for the case to come to trial. At the start of this incident the hostel management intervened by evicting the woman back onto the streets. Lord knows how many more petrol stations and stuff she worked herself through.

However at the trial she had managed to find a place in a Catholic run night shelter but was in no fit state to stand in the witness box. The prosecution wanted the guy to go down for a long time. But more than this they wanted a conviction and they feared if they put this woman on the stand he would get acquitted. So they withdrew the sexual assault charge on licence and convicted him for absconding from the Sex Offenders Register. He got 12 months and walked free from court.

That saying, he cannot reoffend. They know he's got HIV, he also has a sexual assault charge on licence with a not guilty plea and the next time he lays a finger on anyone unlawfully the charge will come back, and knowing that he's HIV it carries a special 'intent to kill' argument. Basically, next time he goes down, that's it.

But think of the woman here. Think of all the cigarettes she's smoked, the cans of cider she's drank, the money's she's spent, and all the people she's given head to and slept with to get it.

How many of those men are sleeping with their wives, partners, and have forgotten about this woman?

This is just one woman and we're talking here over the space of a few months (that I know of from personal experience).

How many others can there be online? Something worth considering?

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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 5:15:08 PM   
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My first response is that they're married and don't want their spouse to see the doctor's bill on the checkbook.

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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 5:20:52 PM   
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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 5:38:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Std tests are wonderful but they arent a sure method....

First off it can take up to 6 months for HIV to show up in the system, and up to a year for HPV to show in a woman,

While they do test, and it does show that you are for the most part (reliably) clean.... Its not fullproof

Also tests can take up to a month at times (depending on where you go and the lab involvement) to come back to tell you.

If someones had sex after that test, it wont show up on the results you got... and its not fullproof

Best idea is use condoms and be aware...of the risks you take even if they do get tested for you.



Yup, condoms for me.

If I were in a monogamous relationship and wanted to dispense with the condoms, then we'd do testing. (I get tested annually as part of my GYN exam.)

Miami is # 1 for new AIDS cases and guys here display a pre-AIDS era attitude towards using condoms. One said he'd be offended if a woman asked him to use one. (No, this is not someone with whom I've been intimate.) I could go on...it's rather shocking, really.

Oh, lookee here:

http://news.ufl.edu/2007/11/05/sex-ed/

The sex education course content overwhelmingly fell in line with the state of Florida’s official “abstinence-only until marriage” policy for sex education and instruction on HIV/AIDS. Nearly every educator who responded to the survey stated they taught abstinence from sexual activity as the only way to avoid unintended pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases and other associated health problems.

Think there's a connection?

http://www.southfloridagaynews.com/news/spirit-hiv-aids-news/1799-miami-area-ranks-no-1-for-aids-cases.html

Miami Area Ranks No. 1 for AIDS Cases

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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 6:02:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zak48

So this has happened to me twice now. I met two guys online (not on here), two seperate situations, everything is going great, we're chatting and talking on the phone and one of them I went out and met at a bar to have a few drinks just as "regular" guys. Long story short Im on here to try and meet guys or couples that want to femonize me treat me like a slut. This requires the swapping of bodily fluids as you can imagine. When I bring up STD testing everything at first seems fine and they seem on board with it until I dont hear from them for a long time. In BOTH instances I made contact again and asked what happened? what went wrong? and they get very defensive and agitated and seemed to make up things that didn't happen...all in an effort to cover up the fact that they didn't want to get tested and didn't want to tell me. It's obvious to me that's what happened. It happened only twice but I am noticing a pattern here. Really?? I would hate to think that there are people out there that would knowingly spread thier disease or...even worse...feel as though its too much of an inconvenience to go out and get tested. I'm curious to know if this has happened to anyone else.

Do you mind if I ask you a question?  If people can't live up to your standard of being tested or wanting to use safer sex practices, why on God's green earth are you wasting even one second of your time worrying about this?  Scrape them off and only spend your time and energy on folks who are worth it.


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RE: STD tests - 3/14/2011 7:15:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Curl them upwards, right?



Yes. Upwards. Seems more trollish that way if that's what you're getting at.

OP, LadyPact is right...if anyone doesn't want to do an STD scan for whatever their reasons are, then they aren't a great prospect for you. Granted STD scans are pretty useless really as others have pointed out. Even so, if there are people out there doing whatever they want willy nilly then let them go on without you- there isn't anything you can do about it except be a good example.

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