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Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 7:44:14 PM

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How many Dominant Mistresses here on CollarMe.com now use (or have used) sissy maids for doing REAL maid duties (cleaning, laundry, ironing, serving at social functions)?

For those who may be new to the scene, sissy maids are submissive males who are crossdressed (sometimes willingly, sometimes by force - as in forced Feminization), usually in French maid's uniforms, and take orders, punishment, training, and humiliation from Dominants

RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 8:17:17 PM

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Whatever in the world would one use maid for but as a maid? I have enjoyed the services of a maid in the past, and anticipate I will again in the future. I strongly feel that a well trained maid is an invaluable submissive. However having said that I do expect anyone that serves me to have some sensibilty of tending to a household, cooking and social service. My personal preference is not for the french maids in their shiny fluffy uniforms but the more demure and reserved look associated with a victorian maid, nor have I any interest in humiliating or playing with them on any level. I prefer that a maid offer exemplary service, seldom be seen and even more rarely heard. But that is only my thoughts on it and I know of many dominants that do use their sissy maids in the manner you have referred to.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 8:49:12 PM

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From a personal experience, my advice to sissy maids: If you're not wanting to actually scrub floors or toilets and are really wanting to do a scene where you get to wear your hottest outfit and role play being the molested staff instead, just say so. It's perfectly ok to do this (and can be a lot of fun...french maids are HOT). What will sour the whole thing is when you think "scene" and we think "service".

This is what happened to me: I scheduled a sissy maid to give me 4 hours. I had a list of chores, because she said she was coming to clean. I had a project to work on while she was here. It took her 1.5 hours to get dressed then she spent the next hour bugging me with questions that made it obvious she'd never done serious housework before. That's NOT service, that's a scene. I explained this and she said that she had really thought that I'd be standing over her telling her exactly what to do and punishing her when she didn't do it right. Well, I had a project to work on and had negotiated service, not a scene, so sent her home.

I did however, have another sissy with whom I did some training. She learned fairly well and worked REALLY hard...but that was a training type of thing. Yes, I got the service, but it was a hell of a lot of work for me, too!

So, I guess the answer to your questions is: no. I haven't yet found a sissy who is interested in offering service in a way that leaves me free to do other things I need to do.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 9:20:37 PM

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Dear MaidMimi, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I must say, that in the modern BDSM, D/s, M/s and S&M scene, there is no such thing as "forced crossdressing." Most have the scene mindset, like forced rape scene scenerios but; they want to have the experience of crossdressing.

That said, I am swamped by many "sissy" maids, crossdressers and femme males, that I am wondering if there are any males left. [Chuckles]

The sissy maids, femme sorts, crossdressers and gender reassigned, spend so much time admiring themselves in the mirror, so worried about makeup and their outfits, that it really boils down about their fetish and nothing to do with service and or submission; it really appears to be all about them.

If I would entertain, the sissy maids, femme sorts, crossdressers have some "need" to be gaudy and stand out to which no proper maid and or butler would ever do. This can be validated with the International Guild of Butlers. The host or hostess is never out dressed by their servants-Period.

I do not find any sissy maids, femme male and or crossdressers, that know how to tone themselves down. Being silly, cute and prissy isn't attractive to me personally. I rather have a butler, a footman or male servant.

My old fashioned lifestyle, avoids humiliation--to which the need to "petticoat" a male is a form of discipline in the "European" Victorian period, to which boys and men, even husbands had to wear woman's clothes as a means of humiliation. Again, I rather have a well mannered servant, rather than be a warden of bad actors.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 10:09:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: MaidMimi

How many Dominant Mistresses here on CollarMe.com now use (or have used) sissy maids for doing REAL maid duties (cleaning, laundry, ironing, serving at social functions)?

For those who may be new to the scene, sissy maids are submissive males who are crossdressed (sometimes willingly, sometimes by force - as in forced Feminization), usually in French maid's uniforms, and take orders, punishment, training, and humiliation from Dominants

We had several sissy maids serving at our second wedding for our kink friends. They did an outstanding job of both fulfilling their duties and lightening the atmosphere a bit. However, for day to day service, we've found precious few who are satisfactory in the long run since their flamboyant fetish often runs counter to their mundane duties. Fortunately, having sold a 13 room Colonial in Boston and moved to a smaller place in Florida our need for staff has greatly decreased and we do have one play partner, RioBabe, who has a positive fetish for cleaning.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 10:23:25 PM

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When I had a 24/7 live-in, part of his duties included keeping house, and he did so with minimal supervision and without fetish requirements to complete that part of his duties.

For now, I prefer to hire a professional cleaning service.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/6/2006 10:42:06 PM

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I'm very much into service oriented submission so yes, I do use maids sometimes (although not only of one gender).

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 7:18:42 AM

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I have to whole-heartedly echo some of the comments here, about many sissy maids being very self-focused and "all about the scene". There were a few occasions I negotiated having a sissy maid come over and perform service, but each time the situation didn't pan out. I found many had a fantasy perception in their mind about how they would be pitter-patting around in a frenh maid outfit (that *I* would be providing in their size) whilst they daintily fluffy dusted knick-knacks on a marble mantle, and I would be standing over them barking out orders. (Puke.) When I conveyed the reality: Show up in old jeans and a work shirt because you're gonna get dirty. You'll be doing the laundry, sweeping, mopping, washing dishes, and cleaning out the frig. If you do this well for 6 months to a year I might consider investing in a little butler outfit for you. Hmmm... they all the sudden had a booked schedule at work and couldn't make it.

MistressWolfen points out how *service* is key in a *service-oriented* submissive.
MasterFireMaam makes an excellent point about upfront honesty, and how the lack of such can be a time-waster for all involved.
And I adamently agree with everything LadyHugs wrote. I would add, that to me, the sissymaid so caught up in their own fetish, comes across no differently to me than sexslaves or painsluts caught up in their own fetish, to the extent that they are depersonalizing the FemDoms into the player character needed to get the fetish met. I much prefer the butler, servant, or handyman over the sissymaid in a french maid skirt.

Having repeatedly encountered this "fantasy fulfillment" agenda, and self-centered attitude, is a big part of the reason why I finally put No sissies/CD/TVin my profile.
They seem to already have their relationship - with their wardrobe.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 8:39:32 AM

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I remember a tea party I attended at which the Dominant Women were supposed to be served by a sissy maid. Well, the sissy maid was about 30 minutes late, then took more than one hour to dress. By that time, We were all hungry and served ourselves the tea and snacks. When she finally emerged from the bedroom dressed in her maid's uniform, yes she looked hot, but it kind of defeated the purpose of her being there in the first place. We got so tired of waiting for her, we had already served ourselves.

A few years ago, I was contacted by someone who ran a website specializing in sissy maids who supposedly wanted to come over to the houses of Dominant Women and clean. Since I'm not much of a housekeeper, I was interested and filled out a questionnaire. The person running the website referred Me to a few local so-called sissy maids, but they were all flakes who could not live up to their commitments.

I'm still interested in a sissy maid to do My cleaning, but I have yet to meet a sincere, dependable maid actually willing to clean. I have met a lot of game-players and flakes.

Lady Topaz

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 8:53:58 AM

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I'm still interested in a sissy maid to do My cleaning, but I have yet to meet a sincere, dependable maid actually willing to clean. I have met a lot of game-players and flakes.

Lady Topaz

Quite honestly I have never received adequate service from a sissymaid (and I am old old old and long time lifestyle). As has repeatedly been pointed out they seem to be coming from a fetish fulfillment locus not service driven. I have however received excellent service from victorian minded (centered) maids (mostly female), valets, butlers etc., and heartily recommend those trained in this fashion. My current house service is provided by one of my gay dominant friends life partner, and guess what...when he comes to provide service it is in jeans and a tshirt with a smile on his face and a respectful and pleasant good mornin' on his lips. He tends to his duties that have been explained to him once 5 years ago and departs with a pleasant good bye Ma'am. So do not give up on maids MysticFireTopaz, they truly can be a treasure.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 9:04:36 AM

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I've always been a closet CD and my fetish brought me to BDSM. The sissy maid aspect is integral to my interest in BDSM and if I cant explore it, why bother with any of it? I've gone so far as to remove my CDing interests from my profile because of all the negativity surrounding crossdressers and TGfolk.

I'm not a big fan of what I see in other "sissies" either. It's my opinion that since the sissy maid types are often left to their own devices, their first experiences are commercial services which cater to their (my,our) fetishes. Granted my interests are sometimes, a bit selfish. I'm here because I seek acceptance for all that I am.

I am sympathetic to dominants who've had to listen to scores and scores of sissies, proclaiming their wishes to serve. I also know dominants who've successfully dealt with sissies and gotten the most from them.

Anyway, I found this message thread entirely by accident. I will update my position when I have thought this through more thoroughly. I am going for a ride today, its too damn nice out to sit here all morning...

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 9:11:36 AM

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Honestly if someone was sincere about cleaning my house and taking on some of the mundane matters I wouldn't care what he or she dressed like as long as they did a good job.

I had one boy in the past who said he was into household services and yardwork and he did pretty well for a few weeks until he told me that when he didn't do a perfect job he thought I'd punish him not just tell him to do it over -- he didn't mention needing that at all in negotiations. He was also upset that I started training someone new even though it didn't interfer with his weekly schedule at my house.

Frankly I just don't believe anyone any more who says "I'm just want to take care of your house or yard for you to make your life easier". They'd have to prove to me first.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 9:32:01 AM

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I would have to agree with many here. I have attended parties where sissy maids were suppose to be to help out....few do. To which I think makes most CD's and sometimes TS's look bad. If your a sissy maid and really want to help, then you better be up front about it. Tell the dominant in charge if its your first time. Most rarely talk enough about themselves enough.
Being a maid for a party is a big committment. It means that the needs of the guests and the need of the host come before your own. I find that many cannot keep up the roleplay for much longer than maybe a couple of hours. Of course its work and its hard and its not very fun, and you rarely get to talk to the guests much, even if they are your friends and know you.
I look at being the servant at a party or house a perfect way to show off my skills. To set a standard for others to follow, and say or wonder I wish I could be like them. Anything you want or desire to attain will take work, and seem like work at times.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 9:32:50 AM

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What you said, LadyHugs. Thank you for expressing it so much better than I would have been able to!

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 9:42:45 AM

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Right, you have to back up your words with actions. Its not easy, its not always fun. One might like some of it, and not other aspects. I have to laugh, recently I announced my secret in CM chat and got a resounding "...ewwww icky, TMI, YUCK". The internet killed BDSM.

I guess I am going to stick around for a little while...

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 10:08:43 AM

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I once served as a maid, and I was lucky to find a FEMDOM who "got it." I'd say she was about 1 in a thousand in terms of "what's out there."

She had a thing for dressing men, strict D/S protocols, a supervisor's personality, and plenty of work to do. The first thing she had me do was clean her grimey kitchen, which deliberately had not been cleaned in a few days after a period of heavy use.

It took me about two hours to do it.

Most of the things she had me do involved hard work --- scrubbing, cleaning, wiping, etc. I just always did everything she said without complaining and to the best of my ability. Sometimes I would offer feedback, hints, and suggestions.

Overall, I did like being a maid in small concentrated doses. I liked being objectified, hobbled, gagged, plugged, and the various other things she would incorporate into the service. She liked that too. There is something very erotic about being an objectified, kinked up, slave servant with serious duties, high standards, and strict protocols. (It was also very freeing to stop being a maid too.)

IMO, most women don't get it. Then of course most women dislike CDs. Then there's the experience here of the folks on this thread who have found CDs too self involved. The road is full of potholes.

But back to me and my experience. I enjoyed getting into the work zone. I really don't know how to be a female. I don't desire to be a female. So, being a maid with tasks and in a strict system with a kinky supervisor (who also had an old guard orientation) was quite satisfying. I really got a chance to completely forget myself, my life, and everything ---- doing something really crazy and that very few people would ever understand.

For the CD's I would say "don't underestimate the work."

For the Femdom/Doms I would say, "devise a strict system." (from interviewing, employing, supervising and communicating w/ your maids.)

Then, make a committment to one another.

This is a far cry from "no strings housework" or free labor. A serious, committed, understanding investment is needed from both sides.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 10:16:48 AM

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A few years ago, I was contacted by someone who ran a website specializing in sissy maids who supposedly wanted to come over to the houses of Dominant Women and clean. Since I'm not much of a housekeeper, I was interested and filled out a questionnaire. The person running the website referred Me to a few local so-called sissy maids, but they were all flakes who could not live up to their commitments.

I actually met the owner of this business for coffee to discuss the needs for my household and see resumes of those that would be serving in my home. Turns out there is no stable, just him with different logins and wouldn't I be just as impressed in him?
He showed up for what was supposed to be a business meeting in sweats and stinky tennis shoes looking like he'd maybe just rolled out of bed or come from the gym without bathing...sexy huh>?

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 10:25:12 AM

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Now, see, this sounds like FUN. But it's a far cry from what we usually see... and generally speaking, not what 95% of those begging us to "please, Mistress, let me clean your house as a sissymaid" actually have in mind. What they want (never mind what they claim they want) is actually at the opposite end of the spectrum from the "no strings" housework, in that it's all about the dressing up and being spanked, the Domme is nothing more than a facilitator of these fantasies, and the housework does not get done.

What you are talking about is an integration of the best of everything, and both parties are happy! Nice :)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I once served as a maid, and I was lucky to find a FEMDOM who "got it." I'd say she was about 1 in a thousand in terms of "what's out there."

She had a thing for dressing men, strict D/S protocols, a supervisor's personality, and plenty of work to do. The first thing she had me do was clean her grimey kitchen, which deliberately had not been cleaned in a few days after a period of heavy use.

It took me about two hours to do it.

Most of the things she had me do involved hard work --- scrubbing, cleaning, wiping, etc. I just always did everything she said without complaining and to the best of my ability. Sometimes I would offer feedback, hints, and suggestions.

Overall, I did like being a maid in small concentrated doses. I liked being objectified, hobbled, gagged, plugged, and the various other things she would incorporate into the service. She liked that too. There is something very erotic about being an objectified, kinked up, slave servant with serious duties, high standards, and strict protocols. (It was also very freeing to stop being a maid too.)

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 10:33:46 AM

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A good FEMDOM system should bear results, and you will quickly find out which malesubs are responsive to it.

The FEMDOM I served had serious turnover issues, and she was good a what she did, so I am somewhat skeptical of building a LTR on an M/S maid duties plane.

Its all very tricky and its not easy to find a good, reliable, enjoyable, working-kinky fit.

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RE: Using sissy maids for real maid duties - 5/7/2006 10:46:46 AM

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Tell me about it <sigh>

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Its all very tricky and its not easy to find a good, reliable, enjoyable, working-kinky fit.

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